Have you ever been told "we dont serve your kind"
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Other than a group of young men.. who knows? I think we all had on levi 501's and polo or tshirts. Possibly someone had a tshirt with a club name on it.. but no one was acting silly or affectionate... I am effeminate but I have seen southern ministers with hair to the ceiling and more jewelry on than Liberace that claim to be straight.
I am not sure...
even among the outsiders I am an outsider
never fit in any where so i made my own space where i do fit in
never fit in any where so i made my own space where i do fit in
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Yes. Gucci on the Country Club Plaza in Kansas City, Missouri. I walked around the corner to my uncle's office (he's an attorney). He made a call and the manager sounded stunned and said he would "deal" with the employee immediately. A day later I was called by my uncle and I went over to his office. We phoned Gucci and the manager we had spoken to said it had been handled. I asked "So you did fire her?" He said no and I said not good enough and I would be proceeding with more legal action.
After letters to their corporate offices, the BBB, and a couple of local media stations, three weeks after the incident, I recieved a courier box with two Gucci watches, a letter of apology, and an invitation to re-open the account I closed by sending my clipped card to them with my letter of disgust. My uncle had received a copy of the offending employees termination.
I did not re-open my account, I have not bought Gucci since, my entire family closed their accounts with them, and the watches you ask? Well, Gemma loved wearing them on our daily walks. They only became a problem when she would run in the mud. Did I mention Gemma was my pet Keeshond? I let everyone who asked know why my dog wore those watches and even paraded her by Gucci a few times. I'm such an ass. :biggrin1:
And I'm just saying this as the statement made comes across very poorly, but anyone who says it "feels good" to be a part of a racist majority is no better than the racists themselves. I don't condone racism in ANY form. People are people and I have tried to live my life ignoring color divides. My children are also taught the same.
After letters to their corporate offices, the BBB, and a couple of local media stations, three weeks after the incident, I recieved a courier box with two Gucci watches, a letter of apology, and an invitation to re-open the account I closed by sending my clipped card to them with my letter of disgust. My uncle had received a copy of the offending employees termination.
I did not re-open my account, I have not bought Gucci since, my entire family closed their accounts with them, and the watches you ask? Well, Gemma loved wearing them on our daily walks. They only became a problem when she would run in the mud. Did I mention Gemma was my pet Keeshond? I let everyone who asked know why my dog wore those watches and even paraded her by Gucci a few times. I'm such an ass. :biggrin1:
And I'm just saying this as the statement made comes across very poorly, but anyone who says it "feels good" to be a part of a racist majority is no better than the racists themselves. I don't condone racism in ANY form. People are people and I have tried to live my life ignoring color divides. My children are also taught the same.
not sure I agree with you insisting on the Employee being fired
for all you know she was doing what managment told her to
in fact that probubly was what happend
I work in retail and at one job the black lady who ran the place (quite the tyrant) used to use the N word regularly and told us to keep our eyes on all the black customers....
what the hell are you going to do as an employee, tell your Dm that your black manager has prejudice against black people?
for all you know she was doing what managment told her to
in fact that probubly was what happend
I work in retail and at one job the black lady who ran the place (quite the tyrant) used to use the N word regularly and told us to keep our eyes on all the black customers....
what the hell are you going to do as an employee, tell your Dm that your black manager has prejudice against black people?
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Dear God! That is unbelievable! I can't believe they get away with that crap in this day and age.
I grew up near Earle NWS and all the local businesses loved it when the ships came docked.
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Several of my family and myself had shopped at that store before and never had a problem. The store manager was also let go after the debacle. Seems they were the two new ones and were racist, the rest of the staff knew us and would have helped us. It appeared the only reason the manager tried to appease us was so he could keep his job. Maybe high handed, but it got the point across.
I got kept out of a shop once when I was younger, as only one male teenager was allowed in at a time. We were going in to buy eggs and water bombs which would be thrown at cars and people, but still.
Me too Nj...me too. I have also been treated differently for being black...but around here..that's nothing new.
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Those signs are bunk.
I once thought the same as you did: The owner was simply asserting the right to boot anyone stealing, vandalizing, causing a ruckus, underage, loitering, inappropriately dressed, or otherwise creating a bad situation. I never thought much of it.
But then refusal happened to me.
I realize straight, white guys like me don't receive much discrimination but I was once rudely refused service in a small town restaurant in northern California. The reason: I was driving my mother's VW that had a "Sierra Club" bumper sticker on it. The crackers in this small minded timber town didn't like the Sierra Club because of its stance on timber harvesting. They basically told me to get lost, with a veiled threat of violence if I didn't comply quickly.
I was really pissed off but there was nothing I could do since I was on their turf and a long ways from home.
I think they can only get away with this legally if they are some kind of exclusive club. Otherwise your rules should be posted:
- no shirt , no shoes-no service...etc.
- no wife beater shirts
- no wife beaters
- no small endowed men
- no fish
IDK but it almost sounds like you were trying to walk in wearing full fledged camp drag - especially if they clocked you from the parking lot?
Just find another place to eat, and write a letter to the editor of your local paper.
There's no publicity like bad publicity!
I was in an interracial gay relationship for 12 years. Yes, we were refused service several times.
It made me think twice about the privileges I had (until then) taken for granted as a tall White well-educated male with a deep voice. I think it would be difficult for me to avoid a loud, even physical confrontation with a redneck White cop if I were Black and profiled frequently for "driving while Black" or "shopping while Black."
NCbear (who has personally seen "driving while Black" and "shopping while Black" incidents too many times to deny that plenty of bigotry still exists here in the good ole US of A)
It made me think twice about the privileges I had (until then) taken for granted as a tall White well-educated male with a deep voice. I think it would be difficult for me to avoid a loud, even physical confrontation with a redneck White cop if I were Black and profiled frequently for "driving while Black" or "shopping while Black."
NCbear (who has personally seen "driving while Black" and "shopping while Black" incidents too many times to deny that plenty of bigotry still exists here in the good ole US of A)
how did the manager know you and your friends were gay? I am asking this because you never specified ..and I haven't a clue as to how you look in public...
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One time I worked in a restaurant of a hotel near Newark Airport. A young black couple walked in as we were closing. The man insisted on sitting in an area that had already been closed. I was taking their order and the man wanted a Rueben sandwich with coleslaw instead of saurkraut. I told him I would check with the kitchen. The kitchen refused to make it, as they were closing too. I went back to them and asked if they wanted to order something else. The man was very mad, but the lady was nice and seemed embarrassed by the guy she was with. They did not want anything else and left. The man later lied and said that I called him the N word under my breath. I was suspended for 3 days. I should have sued the company I worked for, but I didn't. It was very embarrassing for me to return to work since I had many black friends and co-workers that I work with. (Haitians, an African-Amercian Muslim, other African Americans and a few from the Carribbean)
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