He is Here Pope Benedict XV1

[Synergistic]

Can anyone explain to me how they choose thier new names? I mean do they throw darts at a board with the names on them or what?

 

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NelsonMuntz84:

Originally posted by madame_zora@Apr 19 2005, 10:22 PM
Wow Nelson, that's one hell of a rant, who do you think you are, me? Anyway, it's obvious you have a vendetta out for Nixxy, I just don't share it. If someone said they didn't give a shit about Clinton because they thought he was a liar, I'd probably retort, but I can assure you it wouldn't come to threats. Feel free to check all my posts, it's never come to that yet.

I wonder why you feel the need to say Nixxy knows nothing. I guess it helps discredit someone's view if you put them down, I just don't think that's the best way to get your point across, it just escalates bad vibes. Anyway, this was supposed to be about the new Pope, and I wish him well. We've never shied away from controvery here nor hesitated to post opposing views on various subjects, I hope it stays that way. Just my .02, for once.

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LOL... read what he wrote, he linked to my post, and said "I dont give a shit", dismissing what I said, it wasn't to do with the new Pope.. I think if your looking for a vendetta you only need to look his direction if you dont agree with him, or is that 'respect' him, and I'm not the only person to think that, I wont name names, but I know someone who was close to leaving this board because the way he spoke to this person, and the way others covered his arse was a utter disgrace.

If Nixxy doesn't know about something he should post nothing, if he has a opinion do so in a adult manner, I dont post on threads I know nothing about, this is the guy who said 4 weeks ago the new Pope was a Nazi, because someone told him so. I'm sorry, other people would have got ripped a new arsehole on here for saying that about anyone. I dont expect anyone to agree with me, but I expect them to be civil when they talk to me, if he couldn't do that he shouldn't have said nothing, or am I meant to say nothing because I'm not part of the clique.

As for bad vibes, it was nothing personally, I'd have said the same to you had you said it, if he's nice to me I'll be nice to him, but I'm not kissing anyone's arse just because you all do, there people on here who could post anything and it would be laughed off with a group hug, :evilgrin:

As for threats, I stay what 5000 miles away, Jesus, I'm not going to fly over to slap him on the head am I, but I wouldn't have said oh good one Nixxy if he'd have said it to my face

apart from my response to him today I havent responded to one of his posts in over a month, thats something you can check if you wish, he can do the same to mine.

 

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NelsonMuntz84:

Originally posted by nlatimer@Apr 19 2005, 10:46 PM
Can anyone explain to me how they choose thier new names? I mean do they throw darts at a board with the names on them or what?

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Just someone they like, admire, or like the sound of the name.. as long as its a Saint, they can pick it.

I read a couple in the past went for confirmation names, I'd pick John Oglivie, but there little chance of me being the Pope :evilgrin:

 

[surferboy]

I'm so stoked you picked me to take yer insecurities out on. Now, first off, did Christ tell you to hit me? Didn't think so. Secondly, you say I go around spouting my opinions, then go on to say I have no opinion? And a muppet? Oooook.

And yah, I called him a Nazi because that's what I heard. Oh no! If you've heard something wrong, then you are at fault, not yer source! I also like how you say that everyone wants "what's in my pants" and they "don't respect me at all." Like I said, you are TOTALLY taking out all of yer insecurites out on me. Even to the point where you said you'd hit me. You went into personal attacks for me stating my opinion (which, I don't give a flying fuck if you agree or disagree with, it's yer preogative, and I've always stood up for the right of everyone to be heard) about a religion and a man.



And to Jana -

Now for the cheerleading portion of the post, Nixxy, I commend your passion. Nothing gets done by standing idly by, I think you could have a good deal of impact on others in your lifetime.

Thanks! I've never been the type of person to just take something from someone. That's why I don't plan on going into the armed forces

 

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NelsonMuntz84: I said if you had said that to my face, their a big difference, did you really think I'm going to fly 5000 miles to slap you, LOL.

I have no idea why you couldn't have just responded to what I wrote in a adult manner.

I'd never post anyone was a Nazi or anything like that before knowing it 100%, its not something you say about anyone, I wouldn't call my worst enemy that, but maybe in America its not a bad thing to call someone, here its pretty bad.

If you had shown me a once of respect I'd have shown you it, so dont play the victim.

Also you never read a word I wrote, I didn't disagree with you, your intitled to your own opinion, but dont ever talk to me like that again, I'm not your friend, you dont know me, if you want respect from me, you will get it when you talk to me in a respectful manner.

Others on here might think its okay for you to respond to them in that manner (and my post wasn't even directed at you) I dont, its that simple.

 

[surferboy]

And just where the fuck do you get off on thinking I should even consider listening to you? "Don't talk to me like that." Yah, I don't care what you think about me, and I'll talk to whoever however I want.

 

[GottaBigOne]

First of all, both of you calm down, you're both acting like children. There are definately better ways to get both your points across, there is no need to resort to ad hominem attacks.
Second of all, the picking of a new pope is not really going to amount to much of anything in regards to reforming the church, Catholic Doctrine is pretty firmly set, and the pope does nothing much when it comes to radical change. He might be able to make small strides in the right direction (yes I said "right direction" because I feel their current direction to be horribly wrong) but he won't be able to do much, considering his age.
Third of all ( and I know this is retarded, but I like arguing semantics) If someone was once a member, although a coerced member, of any political group they should be called "a former member of said group." He was a member of the Nazi party, so he was a Nazi. The problems come because of the extremely negative connotations attached to the term "nazi". Just because he was once a member, does not make him a horrible human being, but he was still a Nazi.

 

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NelsonMuntz84:

Originally posted by GottaBigOne@Apr 19 2005, 11:40 PM
First of all, both of you calm down, you're both acting like children. There are definately better ways to get both your points across, there is no need to resort to ad hominem attacks.
Second of all, the picking of a new pope is not really going to amount to much of anything in regards to reforming the church, Catholic Doctrine is pretty firmly set, and the pope does nothing much when it comes to radical change. He might be able to make small strides in the right direction (yes I said "right direction" because I feel their current direction to be horribly wrong) but he won't be able to do much, considering his age.
Third of all ( and I know this is retarded, but I like arguing semantics) If someone was once a member, although a coerced member, of any political group they should be called "a former member of said group." He was a member of the Nazi party, so he was a Nazi. The problems come because of the extremely negative connotations attached to the term "nazi". Just because he was once a member, does not make him a horrible human being, but he was still a Nazi.

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Need to pick you up on this m8, he was never a member of the Nazi party, or the German Army (he built shelters when he was 16 y/o when he was sent by the nazi's)

He was a forced member of Hitler youth, which he was got ou of within 6 months because he was becoming a priest.

He was also 18 y/o when the war finished, so wasn't even old enough to be in the Nazi's during the course of the war.

Read one of the online biographies on him, he was never a nazi, and was never a member of the nazi's, that simple.

 

[GottaBigOne]

Ok, sorry, may bad. I haven't read anything on him because I fraknly don't care who is the head of the Catholic Church. I took my information from an eariler post by someone else, I was mistaken, being a part of the Hitler Youth is not the same as being a Nazi.
But he's still a powerful religious leader, which in itself doesn't sit well with me.

 

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hung_big: Woah, woah, woah.

Nelson buddy....calm down. This is yet another misunderstanding, but taken to another level.

First, I must say this: A threat is a threat. It does not matter if you intended to do it, or you didn't. Threats are taken seriously, because it is assumed preemptive strike/physical or mental harm. You criticize Nixxy for not talking with grace, but I find personal threats to be some of the most vulgar behavior, especially if someone does not think twice while posting it. On a side note, I'm pretty sure Nixxy could kick your ass; I know him personally and also believe me, that picture is misleading (take it for what you will)

When Nixxy said "I don't give a shit" (which is what I assume started this quarrel), he meant he doesn't give a shit about a church not changing overnight or any of what you said. All of that doesn't matter IF the Pope is ardent in hating homosexuals. Just as the doctorine does not matter; a Pope basically calls the shots in the church and changes things, most of the time to his pleasing or the people's pleasing, which can be dangerous.

Also, adult manner? Err....perhaps you should practice what you preach? Because we all know how adult, "I'll beat the shit outta you" sounds .

Nixxy: The pope is not a Nazi . Oh, and yes, if you spread something around and your source is wrong you are just as responsible. If someone acuses another of being something they are not and you continue to spread said rumour, you are just as guilty as the original conspirator. You heard he is a Nazi, you've heard he's not - that would logically mean you have chosen by which point you wish to stand, thus becoming your opinion. On that count you are guilty as charged.

Much love to the both of you....let's all just get along *hugs and kisses*

On topic: Best of Luck to the new pope.

Chris

 

[Pices2325]

Originally posted by surferboy@Apr 19 2005, 11:20 AM
Ratzinger isn't the first German Pope, he's the first one in a thousand years. I was rooting for Cardinal Sin of Manilla.

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Since the 11th centure to be exact I heard that he is very "old fashioned" and not to expect much change with anything really. That could be good or bad depending on how you look at it though.

 

[surferboy]

Originally posted by Pices2325+Apr 19 2005, 09:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pices2325 &#064; Apr 19 2005, 09:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-surferboy@Apr 19 2005, 11:20 AM
Ratzinger isn&#39;t the first German Pope, he&#39;s the first one in a thousand years. I was rooting for Cardinal Sin of Manilla.

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Since the 11th centure to be exact I heard that he is very "old fashioned" and not to expect much change with anything really. That could be good or bad depending on how you look at it though.

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Which would be a thousand years ago

 

[naughty]

Nixxi,
Thanks for the clarification about the first German pope. I guess I was just going by what the media was saying.Well we all know about doing that , now dont we? LOL&#33;

naughty

 

[dickbulge]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Apr 19 2005, 12:55 PM
Wow, Nelson, I don&#39;t think that was a good call to threaten to hit someone because you didn&#39;t like what he said, that just might be a first around here.

I do hope this Pope will do something about corruption within the church, I believe that is what the insiders could do best, but it would be nice to see a man in that position who wouldn&#39;t be as anti-gay as he seems to be. I&#39;ll take a wait and see attitude, but I&#39;m really tired of the attitudes of intolerance from government and religion, I just don&#39;t understand the benefits of any of it.

Now for the cheerleading portion of the post, Nixxy, I commend your passion. Nothing gets done by standing idly by, I think you could have a good deal of impact on others in your lifetime.

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I know Nixxys&#39; a sweetheart and lots of fun but he was unacceptably rude and crude and excusing him is not going to help. You know I get angry and insensed too but it&#39;s better to be civil and state your cause with restaint. For one thing people are more likely to listen to you.

IMHO. I&#39;m all for colorful language and use plenty myself but liberty isn&#39;t liscense and this forum is just as public as a street corner. I don&#39;t want profanity shouted in my ear and I&#39;m sure you don&#39;t either especially when wit and sarcasm are more effective and entertaining.

Nixx gives great post and I like receiving it....ah ...I mean them, but in this case a
mild rebuke is in order both for him and Nelson.

 

[surferboy]

But it&#39;s because this is a public forum that I can use any language I want. And don&#39;t tell me yer gonna come into a penis site and not expect some colorful language

 

[dickbulge]

Originally posted by surferboy@Apr 19 2005, 08:11 PM
But it&#39;s because this is a public forum that I can use any language I want. And don&#39;t tell me yer gonna come into a penis site and not expect some colorful language 

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See quote below.

 

[surferboy]

*tackles dickbulge*

 

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NelsonMuntz84:

Originally posted by hung_big@Apr 20 2005, 02:58 AM
Woah, woah, woah.

Nelson buddy....calm down. This is yet another misunderstanding, but taken to another level.

First, I must say this: A threat is a threat. It does not matter if you intended to do it, or you didn&#39;t. Threats are taken seriously, because it is assumed preemptive strike/physical or mental harm. You criticize Nixxy for not talking with grace, but I find personal threats to be some of the most vulgar behavior, especially if someone does not think twice while posting it. On a side note, I&#39;m pretty sure Nixxy could kick your ass; I know him personally and also believe me, that picture is misleading (take it for what you will)

When Nixxy said "I don&#39;t give a shit" (which is what I assume started this quarrel), he meant he doesn&#39;t give a shit about a church not changing overnight or any of what you said. All of that doesn&#39;t matter IF the Pope is ardent in hating homosexuals. Just as the doctorine does not matter; a Pope basically calls the shots in the church and changes things, most of the time to his pleasing or the people&#39;s pleasing, which can be dangerous.

Also, adult manner? Err....perhaps you should practice what you preach? Because we all know how adult, "I&#39;ll beat the shit outta you" sounds .

Nixxy: The pope is not a Nazi . Oh, and yes, if you spread something around and your source is wrong you are just as responsible. If someone acuses another of being something they are not and you continue to spread said rumour, you are just as guilty as the original conspirator. You heard he is a Nazi, you&#39;ve heard he&#39;s not - that would logically mean you have chosen by which point you wish to stand, thus becoming your opinion. On that count you are guilty as charged.

Much love to the both of you....let&#39;s all just get along *hugs and kisses*

On topic: Best of Luck to the new pope.

Chris

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I didn&#39;t say beat the shit out off, I said leave in hospital for a week, the only person who said shit was him, oh and of course prick, going by how quick you go in a huff on here, I&#39;d pay money to see someone say to you &#39;I dont give a shit" to your face.

I bet you dont even know anything about me do you?, what do you think I am 5&#39;5&#39; and 120libs ? LOL Also if he does say that to someone&#39;s face they will give him a slap, you dont talk to people like that, its that simple.

I didn&#39;t post opinion about the new Pope not being a Nazi, I posted a fact.

Also its not politics, the pope cant just change things over night or have a wee vote, for someone who once said he was a catholic, you know very little about how catholism works.

Dickbulge, thanks for using your brain and posting, it was nice to see someone other than the usual clique members running around like headless chickens, but I wont be getting rebuked for anything, I didn&#39;t say anything that wasn&#39;t true, if others can&#39;t handle that they can go have another bloody group hug and give me peace.

I&#39;d also like to thank all the people who pm&#39;d me saying they are fed up with how some people on here are allowed to behave, funnly its always the same names, it just reinforced my views about on here, and nice to see alot of people share them, its amazing how some people can get talked down to like a 5 y/o on this thread and take it as a compliament. :evilgrin:

 

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neuromancer:

Originally posted by NelsonMuntz84+Apr 20 2005, 01:58 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NelsonMuntz84 &#064; Apr 20 2005, 01:58 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-hung_big@Apr 20 2005, 02:58 AM
Woah, woah, woah.

Nelson buddy....calm down. This is yet another misunderstanding, but taken to another level.

First, I must say this: A threat is a threat. It does not matter if you intended to do it, or you didn&#39;t. Threats are taken seriously, because it is assumed preemptive strike/physical or mental harm. You criticize Nixxy for not talking with grace, but I find personal threats to be some of the most vulgar behavior, especially if someone does not think twice while posting it. On a side note, I&#39;m pretty sure Nixxy could kick your ass; I know him personally and also believe me, that picture is misleading (take it for what you will)

When Nixxy said "I don&#39;t give a shit" (which is what I assume started this quarrel), he meant he doesn&#39;t give a shit about a church not changing overnight or any of what you said. All of that doesn&#39;t matter IF the Pope is ardent in hating homosexuals. Just as the doctorine does not matter; a Pope basically calls the shots in the church and changes things, most of the time to his pleasing or the people&#39;s pleasing, which can be dangerous.

Also, adult manner? Err....perhaps you should practice what you preach? Because we all know how adult, "I&#39;ll beat the shit outta you" sounds .

Nixxy: The pope is not a Nazi . Oh, and yes, if you spread something around and your source is wrong you are just as responsible. If someone acuses another of being something they are not and you continue to spread said rumour, you are just as guilty as the original conspirator. You heard he is a Nazi, you&#39;ve heard he&#39;s not - that would logically mean you have chosen by which point you wish to stand, thus becoming your opinion. On that count you are guilty as charged.

Much love to the both of you....let&#39;s all just get along *hugs and kisses*

On topic: Best of Luck to the new pope.

Chris

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I didn&#39;t say beat the shit out off, I said leave in hospital for a week, the only person who said shit was him, oh and of course prick, going by how quick you go in a huff on here, I&#39;d pay money to see someone say to you &#39;I dont give a shit" to your face.

I bet you dont even know anything about me do you?, what do you think I am 5&#39;5&#39; and 120libs ? LOL Also if he does say that to someone&#39;s face they will give him a slap, you dont talk to people like that, its that simple.

I didn&#39;t post opinion about the new Pope not being a Nazi, I posted a fact.

Also its not politics, the pope cant just change things over night or have a wee vote, for someone who once said he was a catholic, you know very little about how catholism works.

Dickbulge, thanks for using your brain and posting, it was nice to see someone other than the usual clique members running around like headless chickens, but I wont be getting rebuked for anything, I didn&#39;t say anything that wasn&#39;t true, if others can&#39;t handle that they can go have another bloody group hug and give me peace.

I&#39;d also like to thank all the people who pm&#39;d me saying they are fed up with how some people on here are allowed to behave, funnly its always the same names, it just reinforced my views about on here, and nice to see alot of people share them, its amazing how some people can get talked down to like a 5 y/o on this thread and take it as a compliament. :evilgrin:

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You are a vile human being.

All Surf said to set you off was that the new pope was homophobic. DUH. Its pretty obvious he is. If that offends you, you need to take a look at your religious beliefs.

You responded to him initially by being insulting and threatening physcial violence. He responded as I would have.

What an asshole.

 

[yaoifun]

That&#39;s quite enough sniveling Nelson, and I&#39;ve had about enough of it. That goes for everyone. This whole fight is ridiculous&#33; In no way did Nixxy attack you personally, he was just letting his opinion be known, "as usual" as you said, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Furthermore, you saying he is the only one saying shit is an absolute joke&#33; You personally threatened him - he only retaliated as anyone with a sense of self should do. Not only that, you DID presonally attack his religious beliefs, he only stated he didn&#39;t like the pope&#39;s take on homosexuality, which meant "he doesn&#39;t give a shit" about what else the pope has to say if he can&#39;t respect them. Turning around with a threat was immature.
Also, on the "he&#39;s the only one who said shit" I&#39;ll let you know Mr. Holier-than-thou by calling him a prick and rewording your threat, not even apoligizing or offer to end this pointless quarrel, did NOTHING to support your statement or credibility, so don&#39;t even start on that tangent&#33; About saying people can agree with him or be wrong, as far as your posts to prove your point show, you feel the same way, but sugarcoat it by saying you respect them as long as they respect you, and Chris saying for both of you to chill, and you turning around saying we&#39;re all a Clique of Headless Chickens (though that is catchy), doesn&#39;t support that statement either. Knowing Nixxy personally, he is not that way, he will have is opinion, but as long as you don&#39;t bash his, he&#39;s fine with it. I&#39;m not going to judge you as having the complete "I&#39;m always right" mindset, because I don&#39;t personally know you and don&#39;t like to judge prematurely, but I AM judging by what I&#39;ve read on this thread. Go ahead and say I&#39;m sniveling too, I doubt you&#39;re even listening to me, but I really "Don&#39;t give a shit", and I can say that because since we all feel like being immature here, I can be too. In your defense, I could say you took it the wrong way, but that was already said, and this could, and should have been ended a LONG time ago, but oh no, you both always had to get the last words in. I feel like I&#39;m in Kindergarten all over again&#33;
I will also say that Chris was nothing but pleasent and honest in what he said. He just stated a fact, that you should both chill, and to practice what you preach about being an adult about it. Oh no, you had to go personally attack him, and calling him a prick, after nearly having a Meltdown about Nixxy saying you were one and going off on his religion like that? Not cool, not cool at all, and it just blows your entire "I&#39;ll be nice if your nice to me" crap right outta the water. As far as I see the rest of your actions, that&#39;s just trying to cover your ass for being a jerk and overreacting. Nixxy may have responded, and it may not have been nice, but it was justified. I respect his opinion of the new pope, and I do yours, but I just think what you did was childish. It could have been settled in one or two posts had anyone used sense. Zora tried to at least make light of it, but you turned around and said it was expected of her to stick up for Nixxy, for the one whom gets "his ass kissed so people can get in his pants", but only after covering it with a compliment.
The way I see it after your lovely response to Chris, you&#39;re just trying to blow this up nice and big so people will think us in the "Clique" look like pompous asses. Well, I may have been blowing this up, but it&#39;s to prove a point. I know that&#39;s a little exxagurative, but seriously enough is enough&#33; I&#39;ll repeat Chris - BOTH OF YOU NEED TO CHILL OUT&#33; It&#39;s like both of you need to retaliate with an even worse strike. I think Nixxy was right in saying what he said, before and after the start of this thread-wide meltdown (which I&#39;ve unfortunately succumbed to, but I haven&#39;t done this in a while, I had it coming&#33 I also could care less about what you have to say to me, I won&#39;t take it personally, because I know I have a point. Not to say Nixxy&#39;s response could have had less profanity, but I&#39;d be pretty pissed if I was threatened like that. The main thing that set me off was the hypocricy going on here. I may sound disrespectful now, but that is only because there is a total air of disrespect in your posts, I&#39;m practicing what you, yourself, preached. Finally as a side note, don&#39;t dish it out if you can&#39;t take it, this goes for everyone. It&#39;s ok to respond, but don&#39;t provoke more madness. Nixxy is someone VERY close to me, so of course I would innately protect him, but if I thought he was wrong, he knows I would let him know it and I would take your side in a heartbeat, as much as I hate taking sides in the first place, had I thought you were right. You couldn&#39;t have been more immature, especially after the response to Chris, that just blew any respect I had out of the water. Don&#39;t even bring up the little tiff he had with Naughty in the JPII thread, that was resolved in what, 12 seconds? They already seem to respect eachother and are being friendly again. I hope this can be the sameway, but call me cynical, it won&#39;t. Two people adamant they are right just don&#39;t get things resolved quickly. Anyway, enough of this rant, I hope everyone got something out of it&#33; Just do us all a favor, to all who have contributed to this, be it Nelson, Nixxy, Chris, Jana, Me, etc. and just shut the hell we make eachother talk&#33; (think about that one)
This has been Reality Check, and I am through&#33;&#33;&#33;

Edit: In all due respect to the Pope, I wish him well, sorry about this mess, and hopefully he will do some good like the last Pope.