I hope this gets overturned very quickly. Especially in this day and age where people meet otherwise strangers on the internet for encounters, have one-night stands, etc. Imagine a situation where two people meet on the internet, hit it off, maybe even go on a date or two. Then they get in bed and the man (top) for whatever reason gets off on being rough and dominant and will not stop. Or if two people are experimenting with S&M and the man(top) will not respond to the safe word because, damn, he's really hot and getting off on it and he's liking the protests. I think we can all agree that the man (top) in this situation is a real jerk in the least. However, what he's doing goes far beyond jerk-- he can be causing severe physical trauma that leaves permanent damage. So now the person that was not-raped and is injured has no legal recourse? That's bullshit.
I do understand that in cases like these it can be very hard to prove what happened one way or the other. However, if there is clearly physical trauma above and beyond what might happen during rough sex, or if there are multiple complaints about the same person. I know that "date rape" is problematic because of people abusing the laws regarding it, but there's got to be at least a way to help some of the people who get abused in this manner.
I havent heard stop but I have heard"ouch!" which ofcourse caused me to stop, I felt terrible.
This is pretty simple.
stop - Definitions from Dictionary.com
For those with a lesser intellect, the above post means the following: If a woman / partner says stop and you don't immediately stop, then congratulations, you're a rapist.
i might not stop, if they did not use THE SAFE WORD. MUHAHAHA.
on a serious note, i'm only 7 inches and some women can't even take that all the way before they are warmed up. ever bump a woman's cervix with a totally innocent thrust, and have them crying a second later? the sex comes to a grinding halt.
oh, and if you're pumping away up their butthole and they tell you to stop, i suggest you listen.
here in Illinois, two years ago, the governor here signed into law (one of his first laws) that states that if a woman says stop and the guy doesn't stop, then he can be convicted for rape, and he must also register as a sex offender. I haven't really heard of any such cases happening since that went into law, but that doesn't mean that hasn't happened though.
I got another thing here, what if it's consensual sex and he sticks it in the butt and she objects. He keeps going anyway. Is THIS protected by that law or is this different??
edit: I am just talking about that law. I am not looking for approval to do this
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Lex, your comments say it all. I've spoken to you only a few times (usually me saying sry incase I've stepped over the line in a thread lol) and I have to say that this one post has generated such respect for you from one who knows you very little.
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No law will protect you from not stopping when someone tells you to stop. Continuing when told to stop makes consensual sex become RAPE. End of story. The only way idiots get off the hook as much as they do is because ruthless lawyers paint the victim (rapee) as a slut, drunk, drug user, liar.
Yes, I am of the same length and I did actually cause my first gf to cry after bumping her cervix the first time we did doggy. Das vas unpleasant.
Amen!
BigA: You pleased it's not "That cut and dry"? Does that justify your dreams at all? Sigmund Freud wrote about dreams being wish-fulfillment of a kind. (Yes, I've read it)
liar.
None of that matters .?
Well somebody posted a link earlier that said different. I dunno maybe it's bs. Don't make it look like I'm looking for loopholes. We were just discussing the law that's all
We all know I've been here more than my fair share of times, so I'll address this on a personal note..
The last time. I said no, we were fooling around, but he knew that was as far as things were to go at that point. He tried to take it further, again I said no (rather aggresively at this stage) he didn't listen. He is a rapist. Now if I'd have left things to the point where we were having sex, he was inside me and then I said no, I expect him to try another thrust or two, I don't call that rape, I call that "being in the moment" and "trying your luck" after that though, if he continues, and I continue to say no, then yes, he is a rapist. Its quite simple.
Whilst in a situation where penetration was consented to and begun, then no one, male or female, would expect "Stop" to mean an immediate end to things, people just don't work like that, simple reflexed dictates it for a start. However, "Stop" at the very least means you should slow things down, pause and clarify, not carry on regardless and ignore whats being said.
Ah yes, and we know that when the law isn't clear we can do away with all morals that might come into play![]()
Amen!
BigA: You pleased it's not "That cut and dry"? Does that justify your dreams at all? Sigmund Freud wrote about dreams being wish-fulfillment of a kind. (Yes, I've read it)