I want to go so bad. I've heard so many stories about the Jamaican resort. Have you ever been?
Everybody is an hedonist. Most just don't admit to it because they imagine their own motivations to somehow be more noble.
There was a series about it on tv, it looked awful, full of people who'd have a hard time getting fucked if they paraded naked in a prison ground.
There was a series about it on tv, it looked awful, full of people who'd have a hard time getting fucked if they paraded naked in a prison ground.
Princess, I love you. What a riveting, if nauseating, analogy!
Not true, nearly all people (some of the time) consciously sacrifice their future happiness and pleasure because they think that other ends are more important than maximizing their own happiness or pleasure.
only because it makes them feel better about themselves, or they believe they'll go to heaven for it, or improve their karma, or it satisfies some deep-seated guilt, or something else.
It is a misconception that hedonism is only about having sex or engorging yourself with food and drink all day long.
It has developed a negative connotation because of both this misconception and the other common misconception that however you spend your life is somehow morally superior to any other way or that your actions have some special significance or meaning. They don't.
The only time we act in ways that are not hedonistic is when we are acting out our genetic programming to propagate our genes and ensure the survival of the species. But that's more or less instinctual.
Intellectually, when we are considering and choosing our own actions, we are all hedonists.
This doesn't mean that I am not doing what makes me 'happiest' in the moment that I make the decision (though i'm not sure this can be proven either), but what makes me not an utter hedonist is the fact that what makes me 'happiest' at the moment is not the prospect of greater future happiness but of a real and meaningful life, or something like that. My concern doesn't only fall on pleasure.
Rubi... re: moments of acting on gene-propagating instinct... I was referring more to things that we do subconsciously or the heat of the moment without thinking about them. Of course we have also evolved in a way so that certain physical features of our bodies (genitalia packed with nerve endings) and chemical functions of our brains (hormones and endorphines released during arousal and sexual activity) lead to us often choosing activities that lead to our genetic material being reproduced.
A bit slippery, Andrew.
If it makes you happiest at that moment, then it governs your choice on the calculus of hedonism.
And if you are so built that that is your natural choice, then you will make that choice in the future, as well.
So the machine will never give you, as you are constituted, the "prospect of greater future happiness."
What if, upon entering the machine, i would cease to realize that I was using the machine. I would be informed, before making my decision, that when I entered the machine I would believe that I was living an 'real' and 'meaningful' life once i entered it.
Given my current values and preferences I could logically reject a choice that I understood would lead to greater total future pleasure for me.
It seems like we are 'moment to moment' hedonists, but that doesn't mean that we are long term hedonists, or that it is most rational to consciously shape our actions around what we think will provide us with the most pleasure possible.