Height. why lie?

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I get what you mean, but to nit-pick i think its your wording that is off (sorry)

To an extent we are all guilty of making assumptions of a person based on appearance, but it is important not to let that assumption turn into a full blown judgement. I only say this because again like respect, i believe a true judgement should be based on personality etc.

I never said that you shouldn't judge based on personality after getting to know an individual. My posts throughout this entire thread have been specifically about why height is seen as important for men and then mentioned how our appearances affect how others judge us initially. As I've mentioned on here before, our outward appearance does in fact play a huge role in how others perceive us and also may have an influence on one's career, such as the article showing a study that says a man makes x amount more per every inch of height.

I'm not writing a college essay, I take less than 30 seconds to write posts like this and really not all that interested in starting a massive debate about something we all readily do as humans on a regular basis.
 

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I disagree.
Height, build, tone of voice, etc may influence perceived male dominance and attractiveness but it's not simply a formula for it.

Intensity and charisma are what really makes someone attractive, appear "dominant" or whatever you want to call it.

Look at Anthony Hopkins. He's short, bald, chubby, and old enough to be my great-grandfather but I'd fuck him in a heartbeat ;) He has a very commanding (and sexy) presence, posture, voice and demeanor despite his physical traits.

Anthony Hopkins is also an actor who is playing a role for a film.

Anyway, there are studies that show specifically what I'm talking about. With the case of the shaved head and dominance, they literally took photos of men with hair, digitally shaved them and then showed the two different looks to both women and men to rate for various traits. The did something similar with body proportions, where they created various shoulder to waist ratios and asked the women to rate the perceived attractiveness. Obviously you have to look at the total package, but women are indeed physically more attracted to men who are tall, have wide shoulders and a narrow waist.....this is universal throughout various cultures and has been well studied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness
 

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Men lie about their height for the same reason that women lie about their age.

Also- I recently discovered that I am now 5'9"

When I was 48- the last time my height was measured with any accuracy by my doctor- I was 5'10". Up until this recent visit to the doctor I have been telling folks my height is 5'10"... without even realizing i was lying.

When I was 24, and got my first driver's license, I was 5'11". The stupid thing STILL says 5'11" on it... simply because the DMV has never again asked me my height.

Like women who tell you what they weighed a year ago... who might simply not fully realize they've gained weight.
Some guys simply do not realize that they lose height with age.
They may not realise they've DOUBLED in weight? Hmmm... harder stretch there. 110 --> 220... on a 5'5" (or less) frame... is hard not to notice.
 

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They may not realise they've DOUBLED in weight? Hmmm... harder stretch there. 110 --> 220... on a 5'5" (or less) frame... is hard not to notice.
who puts their WEIGHT on a dating profile?

hmmm- guess it must be a gay thing.

I'm not suggesting there aren't lot's of folks out there who are outright lying about their stats, posting pictures that are 10 years old, and the like.

I'm saying that when it comes to height... I know I was surprised to find out at the doctor's office that I was shorter than I was the last time I was measured. Mr driver's license, ( which has only been renewed over the last ten years without my having to go in and have a new one made ) still lists my 45 year old height.

I've noticed that in my age range practically every woman who posts multiple pictures posts at east several older pictures of when she was younger.
They will usually have only one or two that are more recent... and you have to look carefully to figure out which one is closer to the truth. Also- lots of women will post pictures that carefully conceal their figure.


So men tend to misrepresent the things that women dismiss men over, and women over the things that men dismiss women over.
There's a word for this, Its called advertising.
 

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I agree with Sangheili90. Men lie about height because we are conditioned through society that height equals advantage. I am 5'11 and 1/2 which is a little above average. During an interview with my first employer after college, a seasoned company recruiter said to me, "you will advance quickly in our firm because you are tall, that might not sound fair to you but it Is a reality in this company". That is burned into my brain because I never imagined that height was an advantage in the business world.
Just look at the height of US Presidents.
 

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This is the exact answer I gave to a guy who was bitching about colleges "wasting" money on athletics programs.

Um- no one with brains picks a university based upon their football teams. Ice the money raised by sports is spent on sports, it does not accrue to a better science or engineering department. It doesn't make their degrees in business any more highly thought of.

And of all fields of human endeavor... nothing matters less in this world than what some OTHER guy can do with a ball.

Schools justifying sports as advertising is like a guy showing off his porn collection to prove what a good lover he is.
 
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Um- no one with brains picks a university based upon their football teams.

I didn't say anything to the contrary.

My point was this:

I am aware of the existence of probably close to 500 institutions of higher education. If I weren't a sports nerd, that number is maybe 30 (Ivy League, MIT, Stanford, and whoever randomly made the news for something extraordinarily good/bad).


And of all fields of human endeavor... nothing matters less in this world than what some OTHER guy can do with a ball.

Yeah. There are also few careers as enjoyable (and high paying) as those that require doing fancy things with a ball.
 

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Yeah. There are also few careers as enjoyable (and high paying) as those that require doing fancy things with a ball.

Sadly true- however- not as many as you might think. The vast majority of players never make big money, and their careers are over at 32. And when the 'university' allows them to skate thru without so much as getting an education... then they are really screwed.

All because folks like to watch OTHER people play with a ball?

At present... universities are taking advantage of " amateur" players while they rake in hundreds of millions.
College players should be paid a share. Because fully half of them will never get a big league contract.
 

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Anthony Hopkins is also an actor who is playing a role for a film.

Anyway, there are studies that show specifically what I'm talking about. With the case of the shaved head and dominance, they literally took photos of men with hair, digitally shaved them and then showed the two different looks to both women and men to rate for various traits. The did something similar with body proportions, where they created various shoulder to waist ratios and asked the women to rate the perceived attractiveness. Obviously you have to look at the total package, but women are indeed physically more attracted to men who are tall, have wide shoulders and a narrow waist.....this is universal throughout various cultures and has been well studied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness
you lose all credibility when you use wikipedia as a soruce
 

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I get that men lie about penis size, but why do they lie about height? I've met men from a dating site recently, who had quite clearly lied about their height. Fair enough, you may think, gotta lie - it's a dating profile after all, but I've also asked work colleagues and customers how tall they are, and some have given answers that are quite clearly untrue. For example, if I am 5'7'', someone shorter than me is not 5'9''. What the hell is it all about? I can SEE how tall they are for goodness sake. Is this also just a roundabout way of lying about penis size?

well for one thing why judge based on height, that is why guys lie on dating profiles

but for like work and stuff it could be that they simply do not know I have been told 3 different heights from 3 different times at dr visits and I was done growing the netire time....I'm sometimes thinkingthey may be guessing....
 
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well for one thing why judge based on height, that is why guys lie on dating profiles

but for like work and stuff it could be that they simply do not know I have been told 3 different heights from 3 different times at dr visits and I was done growing the netire time....I'm sometimes thinkingthey may be guessing....
I don't "judge based on height". It's purely about my preferences, and what I find attractive.
 
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When I was a teen I was considered some sort of ugly duckling due to my looks and extra thin frame. I've always been the shortest among my mates and I lost my left eye when I was very young, which made my appearance get even less appealing, so I had to get used to the fact that I would never be physically attractive. I'm 5ft5 and I have a small penis, which I came to accept a long time ago. However, when I started rowing at university, I started gaining muscle due to the heavy training sessions. I never worked out because I wanted to look buffed, but because I wanted to win medals.

After some years running, rowing 10 miles/day, and working out at the rowing club gym (which I hated), people started commenting on how fit I was, which surprised me because my focus was never on my looks, but on my performance.

As far as penis size goes, as my wife has multiple orgasms even though my tool is small, made me more confident, so I, for one, couldn't care less if people know I have a small tool, a fact that I have never hidden from anyone. All my rowing mates had quite large penises, but they never laughed at my smallness, as a matter of fact.

Thus, I never really had to lie about either my height or my penis size, but I guess that the whole background scenario was plotting in my favour.
 

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Anthony Hopkins is also an actor who is playing a role for a film.

Anyway, there are studies that show specifically what I'm talking about. With the case of the shaved head and dominance, they literally took photos of men with hair, digitally shaved them and then showed the two different looks to both women and men to rate for various traits. The did something similar with body proportions, where they created various shoulder to waist ratios and asked the women to rate the perceived attractiveness. Obviously you have to look at the total package, but women are indeed physically more attracted to men who are tall, have wide shoulders and a narrow waist.....this is universal throughout various cultures and has been well studied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness
Everything else being equal, big big caveat.

About the topic, I have to say that many men are really convinced that they are taller than they really.
 

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I won't complain about being tall but can say that many times I would have liked to be shorter... especially on airplanes :mad:
 

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I am 6'6 and was always the tallest in school until I went to college. I had a roommate who was 6'9 but claimed to be 6'6. I don't know why he cut 3 inches off, he was noticeably taller then me yet claimed to be the same height. Now there was another guy on our team who was about 6'2 and had a cock that was easily 7 inches soft. He claimed to be 11 inches hard. I had a hard time believing that.