help with cialis

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  1. harry_pothead

    harry_pothead New Member

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    I have okay/mediocre erection function, and I wanted to be able to get a full stiffy that would stick around for a while. So I got some Cialis pills.

    I took a 20mg cialis pill earlier today, and I noticed no discernable difference in erection quality, full erection size (normally about 7.1x5.8--i thought it was supposed to increase it), how long the erection is maintained, or anything.

    I also havent noticed any side effects, so I wonder if the pills are genuine. I got them off of KwikMed.

    Anyone know what might be up?
     
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    A pharmicist told me a lot of internet sites have fake pills - too bad, those things can cost $13 apiece at the pharmacy.
     
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    PharmacyChecker.com says that KwikMed is legit, unless the pharmacychecker site itself is a scam. Those things cost me $200 for 10 pills...I find it hard to believe that 20mg of cialis, a dosage designed for someone with severe ED problems, wouldnt affect me, someone with mild ED problems, at all.

    If they are shown to be fake I wonder if I can dispute the charges with my credit card company.
     
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    i think you got some fake stuff. 20mg. of cialis would most definitely make a difference!
     
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    Get a prescription. Except for the doctor bill, it is cheaper.
     
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    I don't recall where I read it, but about 3 years ago I saw an article about the "online pharmacies" that claim to sell you prescription drugs, without a prescription. Of the very few that were selling the genuine drugs, what they sold was salvaged, repackaged, expired drugs that had been earmarked for destruction. Most of the others were counterfeit.

    I couldn't tell you for sure about the ones you got; about the only way you could find out would be to have a lab test them, and that would likely cost a lot more than a doctor's visit.

    Also, you don't mention what your situation was, or the cause of your ED. Some ED just does not respond, period, and the ED drugs don't cause spontaneous erections. The sexual stimulation still has to be there.
     
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    I use Cialis; it's easier for me to get hard, but my dick really does not get any "bigger" than without it; it just helps me get/stay hard longer. Ususally takes 30 - 60 minutes for it to kick in. I think you got some bogus pills.
     
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    Cialis does not make your dick instantly hard. So, you can't take one and expect a nonstop hardon in 45 minutes. You still must be aroused mentally. Are you saying you took it and them watched porn or tried sex and still nothing?
     
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    Although I do not like Cialis, prefer Viagra, Cialis gives me a semi without any stimulation for several days. In fact, it is difficult to wear swim trunks after 10 mg of Cialis. It gives me a terrible throbbing headache. Viagra is milder and does not last longer that about 24 hours; also , I find Viagra does not give a peristent semi without some stimulation.
     
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    I know this may sound funny but try half and see if that works better. I noticed that sometimes with these ED drugs less is more and if you take more tht you need you see them not working well. If half doesn't work then try 1/4.
     
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    Don't play around with these erection providers. They work by lowering your blood pressure. See a doctor to see if you are safe to use them. He might even give you a three-pill sample packet that is provided to him/her by the manufacturer that would be almost equal to the cost of the office call. Cialis sells at most pharmacies for about $11.00 per pill. I doubt that any doctor would prescribe 20 mgs to start off unless a guy is as limp as a wet dishcloth. A doctor might write the prescription for a 20mg pill but with the instructions to cut a pill in half in order to cut the cost per intake. Never mix them with alcohol. And do take the four hour limit on an erection seriously! If an erection lasts for over four hours, head for the nearest emergency room or get in touch with a doctor.

    Make sure that you DO space ingesting any of these pills at least 36 hours between doses. In my experience, the effects of a 10mg of Cialis will last for nearly four days.
     
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    Thank God I Don't Need Pills Yet To Get Rock Hard!!!! Why Are You Young Guys Taking Pills If You Don't Need Them???
     
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    For fun and profit.

    I agree that Cialis doesn't give you an erection if you aren't being stimulated in some fashion (visual, physical, fantasy, whatever). With stimulation, though, erections are definitely harder, longer lasting, and more frequent.
     
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    Thanks for all the help. I wasnt really very mentally stimulated the night before I posted, but the next night I was alot more into it and was harder. I also noticed that while on the cialis I got hard when I pissed, which doesn't normally happen.

    Another thing that happened is that I had a strange ache in my thighs and upper knees. What was particularly strange about it is it hurt more when I relaxed my legs (sitting, laying down, holding it), and was fine when I stressed them (standing, walking, running). Leg aches normally work the opposite.

    I now think the cialis might be genuine--I suspect that my leg was underpressured due to the blood pressure drop caused by the drug. That might explain why pressuring it made it worse and relaxing it made it better.
     
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    I had suffered from mediocre erections for years and things were not getting better with age. I went to a specialist and was examined. I found out that part of my problems were from aging and part were from an injury sustained while on horseback as a teen. The two combined over age to make a problem a great deal worse.

    In my own experience I had tried both Cialis and Viagra finding them both partially effective. However, both orals rely on systemic delivery, tons of arousal, and have other side effects. I figured that I in essence wasted money on (4) pills out of every (10). Meaning that 4 of 10 did absolutely nothing.

    I went to a specialist and was prescribed injection therapy with Quad-Mix. Guys, as bad as this sounds, take it from me it was the best thing that I ever did. The drug is delivered locally and does not for the most part go systemic, if it will work at all it will work like gangbusters. Yes, it does remove some of the spontaneous aspects, but, the best thing is that in about 2/3 of the cases proper use can in fact re-open partially restricted blood vessles. I am already seeing improvement even without the use of the injectable, and with the injectable "wearing out" a partner is easy. I have never been multi-orgasmic in my life and I certainly am now.

    If you are having problems with E.D. get in to the MD, take it seriously and go to a specialist in the field dealing with male sexual function issues. It will be the best thing you ever do. Invest in yourself on this one because the dividends you get back can be incredible.
     
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    Well. this is an interesting thread.

    OP: You got junk; I am 95% sure. See a urologist or GP if possible for a valid scrip; they hand 'em out like candy.

    I take 5mg Cialis daily, a very controversial dosing, since another medication I take fucks up all my hormones. Once my hormones read like a woman's readings! It helps. I feel like a kid again; my 2nd partner calls me Mr. Big and Purple. :) Better hang, better confidence. But this use must be approved. My uro gave me options. YMMV.

    One reaons for 5 mg / day is my partners; they both say "We don't want no synthetic wood around here." That is, it is meaningful to each to *give* me my erection, not just *enjoy* it. So, no pre-sex Viagra, no injectibles for me. rather a very low dose of corrective action, allowing reponsiveness with absolutely *no pressure to perform*.

    Another is an obscure paper by Sommer and Shulze claiming rehabilitation of endothelial cell function by PDE5 inhibition. Now, it's an outside chance, but with cardiologists these days taking whopping fuckloads of Zetia and other statins to run their risk of cardiac arrest way down, and me already on Crestor (a statin), the hope of rehabilitation is worth pursuing. An even more recent paper described improvement of exercise peformance with PDE5 inhibitors. Sex is great exercise! I also ride bicycles.

    Cialis changes my life for the better....I am happy to pay the price.

    Internet pharmacy: I say don't waste your time.
    Doctor visit: worth it; bring partner or friend, and know how to talk to a doctor before you go.

    You *never* ask for a medication with any doctor, you have to be *subtle* and play the role. They call it "medication-seeking behavior" and it will go in your chart if you try it, on permanent record, not that anyone will look at at. :) They really do know more than you, and it's just insulting to short-circuit 12 years of med school with a request for "happy pills" of any kind, be it Prozak, Viagra, or Adderal, three very popular drugs.

    Lastly, Medicare Part D. For those in retirement or on disability, some Part D plans provide, say, 12 x 20 mg Cialis for like $50 or so. That's a good deal. I have a disability and such a plan. To reduce costs, check your insurance, do the appeal routine, and look for a recruiting study. There are no manufacturer plans for this drug that I know of.

    My 2nd post to LPSG! Howdy!
     
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    I1ve tried Cyalis a few times, just for recreation, to see if my public displays of a hard on got better (I know I am sick) and it sure did.

    Here some tips I found out:

    Never had any aches
    Taking with lots of food works better
    3 days of heartburn, so I always carry some Milanta with me
    VEEERY EAASY on alcohol - the mix gives me blurred vision

    But the results, when I am planning a group sex thing are awesome, I can fuck 5-6 times a day for 2 days in a row, great for planned gangbangs or sex club orgies.
     
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    i dont see any diffrence with or without cialis maby because im young healthy guy , only difrence is that i can get hard quicker when im on cialis
     
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    Ugh, so all these pills mixed with alcohol = massive headaches?
    Great, the only time I need them is on weekends after being out at the bars (it's the only time I'm getting any.)
     
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    I don't have an erection problem, but I got a script from my doc for Viagra. He did say that well-endowed males could benefit from an ED drug at times.

    My wife will argue profusely that I don't need any help at all. She likes the cuddly "Lil Capn," not the boney beastmaster that I become after popping the little blue pill.

    There is certainly a difference in size and girth, but sometimes it's a sacrifice of comfort for looks.

    So we save the meds for special occassions, although I'm still waiting for one of those to come along. Yeah, I agree that it does turn one into the Incredible Hulk, but it sure makes me feel much younger again.
     
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