marleyisalegend
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Yeah I agree, people can not get past his skin color, eventhough he is of mixed race.
I am myself, while my skin color is brown, don't label me.
Shut up blacky!:tongue:
Yeah I agree, people can not get past his skin color, eventhough he is of mixed race.
I am myself, while my skin color is brown, don't label me.
He is mixed. We were students at CAL during the same time. Good baller, but as a student, dumb as a rock... that was his reputation on campus
Exactly. So "fully Black" describes an extremely small portion of the Black population in the Americas.
I think this is definitely an American issue. I always thought it weird that people were making a big drama about Halle berry being the first Black Oscar winner since...whoever...whenever... when her Big White Momma was sat right next to her! I have mixed race relatives who would be called Black in America. But here(UK) they are called Mixed race - which is what they are! It just seems that everything & everybody in the USA has to be put into simple boxes for the dumb masses to understand it. Is Mixed race too hard to say?
If Obama calls himself Black then shame on him for not knowing what or who he is.
My issue was with your use of the term "fully Black" and definition of it.Yes, I don't think I've contradicted myself. I never tried to define "black" socially nor anthropologically. If anything, I try to avoid that quagmire.
I believe that people have the prerogative to name themselves and determine how they want to be called. That's an inherent actualizing power tied to self-identity. If I have somehow trespassed on this right I do apologize. However, it's a double edged sword. To choose a label is also to be stuck with it through good and bad; it makes no sense to be selectively 'X' in one situation but 'Y' in another.
Indeed, we, Americans and Blacks in particular, are all mixed race, and I find the ignorance of that disturbing.Again, to be accurate, we're all mixed race. I'll give you $1,000,000 if you can find me someone who is 100% one ethnicity.
No, NOT semantics. The one-drop rule and paperbag test are COMPLETELY racist in nature, in facts those tests were designed to make racism easier.
Yes, semantics. Exactly what is happening right now, playing with words to define the human condition. Trivial definitions of humans on the basis of words. So, yes: semantics. That's all I meant.
However, like I said: It is sad that we even notice.
Cheers :wink:.
Yes, semantics.
I think this is definitely an American issue. I always thought it weird that people were making a big drama about Halle berry being the first Black Oscar winner since...whoever...whenever... when her Big White Momma was sat right next to her! I have mixed race relatives who would be called Black in America. But here(UK) they are called Mixed race - which is what they are! It just seems that everything & everybody in the USA has to be put into simple boxes for the dumb masses to understand it. Is Mixed race too hard to say?
If Obama calls himself Black then shame on him for not knowing what or who he is.
Redbone. :09:Although I do indeed look white to white people black folks always know that I am not white. My friends still call me "blacky" and "nigga" and "high yella' gal" but unlike some of you white people who use it as a derogatory term towards us it is a term of endearment for me.
I have never identified as white or "mixed race".
cigarbabe:saevil:
You could call anything that requires discussion semantics. Just because you don't think it's relevant doesn't mean it's irrelevant...You seem to operate under the assumption that most people are educated and already know these things.
Although I do indeed look white to white people black folks always know that I am not white. My friends still call me "blacky" and "nigga" and "high yella' gal" but unlike some of you white people who use it as a derogatory term towards us it is a term of endearment for me.
I have never identified as white or "mixed race".
cigarbabe:saevil:
My issue was with your use of the term "fully Black" and definition of it.
100% African descent describes a minuscule subset of the population in the Americas. If "Black" is an unacceptable designation for Obama because he is of mixed ethnic and racial heritage, then that also applies to all deemed Black, African-American, etc., as we share an identical mixed heritage.
I am uncomfortable using the term "black" because it is so ambiguous. It means one thing when used by Africans, another when used within the AA community, but means something else completely when used by anybody else. It also conveniently changes meaning when applied to celebrities such as Obama, Tiger Woods, Michael Jackson, Halle Berry, Lisa Bonet, or O.J. Simpson. It means something else again when used in conjunction with homosexuality. It changes one more time whether a person self-identifies as black regardless of what they look like on the outside. And yet again takes on another different dimension when applied to the arts. Within the same conversation between two people the word can change meaning from something positive to negative, back to positive again, and vice versa. So forgive me if I don't know how to use the term "black" properly. Maybe if it didn't have such a dodgy history of usage to begin with it would be easier to apply.
I think this is definitely an American issue... It just seems that everything & everybody in the USA has to be put into simple boxes for the dumb masses to understand it. Is Mixed race too hard to say?
If Obama calls himself Black then shame on him for not knowing what or who he is.
What does this have to do with my point? My point is that if u are mixed race then thats what u should be called. If u are mixed race but choose to be called "Blacky" then thats your choice. But its not a true reflection of what u are.
I pass as white but I define myself as mixed race if asked... Like I said before, I think this is an American issue. You really seem to have all kinds of fucked up ideas when it comes to issues of race. You've complicated a very simple issue with all your prejudices.