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I can provide links to plenty of porn that doesn't fall into the categories she describes. It gets a bit tiresome to hear folks complain about porn. There's porn(a lot) of porn produced in the world. To hear someone complain about a small segment seems silly/petty. If there's a certain type of porn you like...then find it. It's out there...and probably a lot of it.
 

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I don't think she is complaining about a small segment. For good or ill, most of us on this board have explored our sexuality way more than the average person. This is a great thing as individuals and in our personal relationships, but it does make it harder to relate to the rest of the world that takes a very different perspective.
For the vast majority of people, the porn they see is as she describes. I think many must get turned off by that over-produced garbage and don't really look in to the genre seriously because of that.
Look at how much America embraced '50 Shades of Grey'. The book is poorly written and none of the acts performed seem all that adventurous to us, but for many Americans (especially women) any sex beyond watching some roid-raging slimy weirdo with a pumped dick on his 5th viagra immediately plunge in to the asshole of a hard-boobed bleach blonde while she pretends to orgasm, is titillating and out-of-the-norm.
 

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... any sex beyond watching some roid-raging slimy weirdo with a pumped dick on his 5th viagra immediately plunge in to the asshole of a hard-boobed bleach blonde while she pretends to orgasm, is titillating and out-of-the-norm.

Shit ! That turned me on !!!
 

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I don't think she is complaining about a small segment. For good or ill, most of us on this board have explored our sexuality way more than the average person. This is a great thing as individuals and in our personal relationships, but it does make it harder to relate to the rest of the world that takes a very different perspective.
For the vast majority of people, the porn they see is as she describes. I think many must get turned off by that over-produced garbage and don't really look in to the genre seriously because of that.
Look at how much America embraced '50 Shades of Grey'. The book is poorly written and none of the acts performed seem all that adventurous to us, but for many Americans (especially women) any sex beyond watching some roid-raging slimy weirdo with a pumped dick on his 5th viagra immediately plunge in to the asshole of a hard-boobed bleach blonde while she pretends to orgasm, is titillating and out-of-the-norm.

What we also have to realize is the very poor situation of sex education in America. Children nowadays are faced with very difficult questions of sexuality without any real channels of communication being opened to them to discuss these questions in the first place. One of the only "viable" options for these children to look for information is to watch porn. Pornography is more than it appears to be in this country. It is deeply embedded in the construction of our societal structure. This is why it can be quite foolish to dismiss any real analysis of the industry whatsoever.
 

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One of the only "viable" options for these children to look for information is to watch porn.

That right there is what depresses me so much about abstinence-only sex education. We regularly see people on this board who actually quote commercial porn as a reliable source on sex. The sheer number of guys who know 'what women want' because they saw it in commercial pornography is frightening.

The big thing that the woman in the video was asking for was to see people who actually want to fuck each other fuck, which has major implications. In the wake of Steubenville, I think people are much more aware now of how dehumanizing sex serves to perpetuate a rape culture. When we're raised being fed a steady-stream of overproduced pornography, it completely dehumanizes the act. When pornography is about people with a real connection actually enjoying each other, it humanizes the act and can actually help develop positive attitudes towards sex.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of porn out there where one party is objectified/degraded and it's all totally hot to watch, but that's not what she's complaining about here. D/s porn is amazing, but if you don't have a good foundation in sex education to separate the fantasy, or respect just how strong a submissive really is, I don't think you can even appreciate it.
 
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This is stupid. Those "attractive" people she's talking about, most of them would much rather not appear in porn unless they're paid a lot of money and who would do that when you can pay less for the people we have in porn now?
 

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That right there is what depresses me so much about abstinence-only sex education. We regularly see people on this board who actually quote commercial porn as a reliable source on sex. The sheer number of guys who know 'what women want' because they saw it in commercial pornography is frightening.

The big thing that the woman in the video was asking for was to see people who actually want to fuck each other fuck, which has major implications. In the wake of Steubenville, I think people are much more aware now of how dehumanizing sex serves to perpetuate a rape culture. When we're raised being fed a steady-stream of overproduced pornography, it completely dehumanizes the act. When pornography is about people with a real connection actually enjoying each other, it humanizes the act and can actually help develop positive attitudes towards sex.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of porn out there where one party is objectified/degraded and it's all totally hot to watch, but that's not what she's complaining about here. D/s porn is amazing, but if you don't have a good foundation in sex education to separate the fantasy, or respect just how strong a submissive really is, I don't think you can even appreciate it.

We live in a Capitalist system. One basic fact about Capitalism is that it depends on oppression. Much of the oppression seen in America is partially taught through pornography. This is how it is a cultural institution, fundamentally tied into the Capitalist system we live within.
 

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We live in a Capitalist system. One basic fact about Capitalism is that it depends on oppression. Much of the oppression seen in America is partially taught through pornography. This is how it is a cultural institution, fundamentally tied into the Capitalist system we live within.

Boy, that escalated quickly.
I don't think you'll have too much difficulty finding less-capitalist nations that have just as poor an attitude towards pornography. Not disagreeing with your premise, just don't see the connection between that an porn production.

I don't think it's difficult at all to get more attractive people in porn; the people appearing now don't appear because they're cheap, but because they meet the standards we set for porn actors. I've seen so many videos where I thought the girl would be much more attractive if she didn't bleach the hell out of her hair, and especially find no shortage of women who would look so much better with smaller, natural boobs than their ridiculous implants.
 

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Boy, that escalated quickly.
I don't think you'll have too much difficulty finding less-capitalist nations that have just as poor an attitude towards pornography. Not disagreeing with your premise, just don't see the connection between that an porn production.

I don't think it's difficult at all to get more attractive people in porn; the people appearing now don't appear because they're cheap, but because they meet the standards we set for porn actors. I've seen so many videos where I thought the girl would be much more attractive if she didn't bleach the hell out of her hair, and especially find no shortage of women who would look so much better with smaller, natural boobs than their ridiculous implants.

could you say what a good/poor attitude would be?

I'm never sure where this standard comes from - I know lpsg is not a control group but it does seem people prefer the amateur vids or at least those pretending to be rather than the over-produced vids you mention