High IQ = no meat?

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"Intelligence" is a very vague term. During my lifetime, I have taken a number of IQ tests, and find that in general, the online ones give inflated scores, when compared to proctored tests.

However, the number in and of itself is fairly meaningless. What is more important is the percentile. For any given test, there is a mean score, standard deviations, etc. Evaluating the percentile, rather than a number, gives a more accurate measure of one's "intelligence."

Having said that, there are many different kinds of intelligence. My husband calls one of them "Walkin' around sense."

One can be very intelligent, but have little or no "walkin' around sense," or vice versa. :biggrin1:

Personally, I don't think it's unhealthy to eat meat. But I don't regulate my diet based on anyone else's food rules. I eat whatever I crave whenever I happen to get hungry. I may not eat baked potatoes for a year, and then suddenly need to eat them every day for a month. Last month I couldn't get enough tuna, and this week it has no appeal for me at all. Right now I have a strange urge to eat beanie weenies...but there aren't any in the house. So I guess I'll just sit here drinking Carmenere until I figure out what the hell I want for dinner.

I have no idea how my eating habits relate to my intelligence or "walkin' around sense." :rolleyes:
 

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just fyi, there are a lot of great reasons to go vegetarian:

health, socio economic, environmental and moral reasons are all big reasons.

for example, did you know the following?:

Meat production turns abundance into scarcity. You need an average 16lbs of grain to produce one pound of beef, 6 pounds of grain to produce 1 pound of park, 3 pounds of grain to produce one pound of chicken and 5.3 pounds of fishmeal to produce 1 pound of farmed fish, Doesn't it make sense to eat the grain and feed more people? .

We can ensure every human being on this planet was well fed if we adopted a vegetarian diet. In fact, if the Americans alone cut back their current meat consumption by 10% they could feed the 60 million around this world who are starving today. There is no shortage of food, just too few vegetarians.

a decent site with some food for thought on these matters here:

Why you should go for Vegetarian diet? ---- Vitaderma Skin Care and NGV Conversion kit Malaysia from Hydrotech Enterprise
 
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Indeed. This unnatural production of meat is such a luxurious waste of resources. I'm not saying turn vegetarian, just to consider better environmental habits. Animals desire to live naturally too, they can be a viable, though smaller, source of food for our exploding population.

Me? I don't require much meat regardless,.. I generally only gorge on it when recovering from injury. Fish is nice, but even our seas are overfished now. (they are even using satellites to track school movement, then step in and annihilate the population ~ this is the society that feeds us)

But of course, when hunting (generally for survival)... I utilize all kills.
 
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I know! I about crapped my pants when he told me. But I don't think he's lying. I've never met anyone as intelligent as he is... in ALL areas. Math, science, you name it. It all makes perfect sense to him. He's very logical, but can think outside the box, too. He boggles my mind sometimes... and I don't exactly have a low IQ myself! I think last time I was tested, it was 152? Somewhere around there. I don't remember the exact number.
Sounds like he's intelligent not to be swayed by the fruitwagon... I consume what best suits my aspects...

As for my IQ test... I fell asleep in the hallway, was woken, then just scribbled through the thing as quickly as possible so I could go back to sleep. I'm not sure how they drew their conclusions either, but I could reverse-engineer most unknown aspects of the test itself.

"It all makes perfect sense to him."

Bingo. (well, apart from spirit and magic, I can do little but feel them)

But... now I struggle to make any sense to others ;\
 

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This is hogwash. There is no shortage of food, period. It has nothing to do with eating meat. If you took what Americans throw away, you could feed the entire rest of the world.

If you would eliminate the corrupt governments and warlordships that regularly use the 'food weapon' as a means of power and influence in their own areas of influence then distributing the food that is produced would be much easier. There would be very few hungry people worldwide.
There are more calories of foodstuffs produced now than there ever were, and it is cheaper and more available than it ever has been. There are warlords in Somalila that are sitting on vast stores of food because they want to control the population
More than a little bit sad.

(I am agreeing with you.)
 

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just fyi, there are a lot of great reasons to go vegetarian:

health, socio economic, environmental and moral reasons are all big reasons.

for example, did you know the following?:

Meat production turns abundance into scarcity. You need an average 16lbs of grain to produce one pound of beef, 6 pounds of grain to produce 1 pound of park, 3 pounds of grain to produce one pound of chicken and 5.3 pounds of fishmeal to produce 1 pound of farmed fish, Doesn't it make sense to eat the grain and feed more people? .

We can ensure every human being on this planet was well fed if we adopted a vegetarian diet. In fact, if the Americans alone cut back their current meat consumption by 10% they could feed the 60 million around this world who are starving today. There is no shortage of food, just too few vegetarians.

a decent site with some food for thought on these matters here:

Why you should go for Vegetarian diet? ---- Vitaderma Skin Care and NGV Conversion kit Malaysia from Hydrotech Enterprise


And do we really want these people to become dependant on the grain we send them?
 

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i'm not sure what people are arguing about.

the point is that meat is wasteful. read it again -- it takes 16 lbs of grain to produce 1 lb of beef.

And do we really want these people to become dependant on the grain we send them?

if you do your research you'll find it is our meat industry that is dependent on international grain to fatten up our livestock. i.e. the locals go hungry sending grain to america so our cows can get fat and we can make mcdonalds burgers.
 

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OOOO from the headline I thought it meant the smaller your penis the more intelligent you'd be. Conversely, the larger the penis the less intelligent you'd be. If that were true, it would explain some of the posts on this site. :wink:
 

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Nonsense - article must have been written by an anal vegetarian.

I know lots of very bright people who appreciate a good steak as well as anyone else.

My BIL's IQ is supposed to be in the genius range and he and his wife eat way too much take-out food....Not excluding beef or any other meat.
It's a major contributor to why he And his wife are overweight.
And their 5 and 2 year old sons are about to be overweight themselves.
5 year old is already there.

It's like a train wreck's coming and you can't do anything to stop it.
 

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i say if you "appreciate steak" thats a strike against your intellect right there.

if your friend, his wife and his kids are all overweight, does that sound very intelligent to you?
 

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If you would eliminate the corrupt governments and warlordships that regularly use the 'food weapon' as a means of power and influence in their own areas of influence then distributing the food that is produced would be much easier. There would be very few hungry people worldwide.
There are more calories of foodstuffs produced now than there ever were, and it is cheaper and more available than it ever has been. There are warlords in Somalila that are sitting on vast stores of food because they want to control the population
More than a little bit sad.

(I am agreeing with you.)

Yes, also a big part of the problem. Poverty, corruption, greed, infrastructure (lack of one), waste, et cetera. It's not that we aren't producing enough food because globally, we definitely are.
 

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i'm not sure what people are arguing about.

the point is that meat is wasteful. read it again -- it takes 16 lbs of grain to produce 1 lb of beef.



if you do your research you'll find it is our meat industry that is dependent on international grain to fatten up our livestock. i.e. the locals go hungry sending grain to america so our cows can get fat and we can make mcdonalds burgers.

America does not import grain to feed livestock. There is not enough profit in beef/meat production to warrant shipping grain from overseas.
A drive accross western Kansas will find huge piles of grain stored in the parking lots of grain elevators under enormous tarps. It is there because the cost of fuel offstes the value of the product to the point that using it for feedstuffs or converting it into food products is a net loss operation.
Once we get through the supply, and then eat our way through the surplus, and somehow convince farmers to produce only about a quarter of what they produce now for long enough that our strategic stores run low...then we might consider importing grain from other grain producing areas.
Agricultural production is a mature industry and there is very little profit and substantial risk in involved in producing.

MY point is that meat production does not stress the grain supply in the least. In fact it provides a market demand so grain producers can stay in business. That's why we (the US) ship millions of tons of grain overseas for FREE every year. It also helps keep the price up so producers can make their breakeven. If we could get someone to supply the fuel to move those huge piles of surplus grain somewhere that it could be used we would all be much happier. There would be someplace to pile up nest year's huge surplus, or maybe the year after that.
 

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America does not import grain to feed livestock. There is not enough profit in beef/meat production to warrant shipping grain from overseas.

MY point is that meat production does not stress the grain supply in the least. In fact it provides a market demand so grain producers can stay in business.

Thank you, Wrat!!!

My maternal grandfather was a wheat farmer, and after he died, my grandmother turned over the farm work and any associated profits to a nephew.

This Kansas farm is no longer being used to grow wheat at all. My cousin is rotating fields, not even working all the land at the same time, and guess what he is growing??

CORN, exclusively for the purpose of feeding...pigs!!! That's it! His entire profit comes from a pig feed manufacturer, because he can't make a profit from growing wheat for human or animal consumption. In addition, the government is paying my grandmother to not grow anything in three of the four quarters at any given time.
 

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i say if you "appreciate steak" thats a strike against your intellect right there.

if your friend, his wife and his kids are all overweight, does that sound very intelligent to you?

You've already had more than three strikes against your own intellect as I count them. Does that mean you're out?
 

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The only thing that comes to mind is:
New Age Girl by Deadeye Dick (the Mary Moon song)
"She don't eat meat, but she sure likes the bone."

My mind is going down the one-way road, lead by my bone (caused by reading Chrysalis' comment about her low rise jeans and my need to look at her gallery).