Hillary endorses Obama

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  1. B_Nick8

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    Hillary's speech was strong, gracious,dignified, even profound. She reiterated her positions, redefined the Democratic platform, and vigorously and repeatedly threw her support to Barack. She eschewed discrimination of all minorities including women, gays and African Americans. It would be hard not to respect her no matter what you might think of her personally. I was incredibly proud it and her.
     
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    Too bad the DNC and her peers had to MAKE her do this. Its more meaningful when you do these things on your own accord rather than when you're told to.

    She won't make onto the ticket either. Her miscalculations, rhetoric and the like did not endear herself to Obama this week. If I had to guess, she's not at the top of the list for VP. Rumor has it though, Obama is looking hard at two other women for VP. A woman on the ticket would definitely be a good move.
     
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    I don't really support Democrats in general, but good on Hillary for doing it. She sounded great, and convincing. It must have been a very emotional moment for her, considering how badly she wanted this.
     
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    Come on, now. Everyone knew she was going to do this once the Primary was over. When so many people in the media and the DNC were pressuring her to quit the Primary when she fell behind in delegates, she ignored them all and kept on going. She has proven time and time again that she's going to do whatever she wants to. What makes you think she'd be pressured into anything now?

    Somewhere down the line we all have to get over this Hillary is evil kick.
     
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    She still has a good support base with African Americans even though they voted for Obama. If Obama wasn't running, you think they would have backed Edwards or even McCain?

    Plus, Hispanic voters came out in support of her in droves during the campaign. She has a lot more going for her than just the gay vote.

    That is, unless you're suggesting 18 million gay boys took breaks from their circuit parties and vacations to Fire Island and went to the polls. :biggrin1:
     
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    Come on now if we can put all the grandstanding and insults that have happened in the other threads and look at this with a clear and rational mind.
    The woman refused to concede because she thought (hoped)He would get assassinated.
    She slurred his race and his faith and his religon.
    This woman wants the VP spot because she can still see the very real possibility of Obama getting assassinated in the future and she will be there waiting there to step over his still warm body into the top job.
    If you can't see it dear things then I feel very sorry for you.
     
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    She was dragged kicking and screaming to that podium. I think her speech only proved what a remarkably good politician, not what a good statesperson, she is.
     
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    I was glad to see her making good on her word to fully endorse him if he was the candidate. I will say that she did not make it easy for Obama and she can look back and say that she did EVERYTHING she could to win that nomination.

    As far as VP picks and her on the ticket I'm a little more philosophical. If Obama picks another woman for the ticket, it would be heresy, because if you put a woman on the ticket, then why not Hillary. Even if I don't think she's right - she had 18 million votes. Her name recognition was important to those voters. So if you put a woman on the ticket - they will ask, why not Hillary. Any other woman would not have the name recogition Hillary does.

    I think Obama will wait a month at least before he announces a VP candidate. In part to put some distance from the protracted race and to let the democratic party mend somewhat. They will as the contest heats up against McCain and dems aligned with Hillary start seeing McCain attacking the dem nominee, you'll see more unity behind Obama and less about what Hillary is doing now.

    Obama said on his speech when he was the nominee that Hillary would be central on the fight for universal healthcare. So even if she's not the vice president candidate...it appears he might hint that there is a role for her in his administration...
     
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    Well not everything, thank goodness.

    By that argument you make it sound as if women are interchangeable. It comes down to who is best for Obama's ticket. Don't we want the best person for the job? Judge people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin (or what's between their legs)?

    Good point and good question. Getting a VP early would give Obama a sidekick to fight McCain. Two may be better than one in that case. I wonder if they're both waiting for the other guy to make a move on the veep seat? I think you're right though.

    I think Hillary will stay in the Senate where she'll have more power. She will team with the White House to create a healthcare plan and then become the Secretary of Health and Human Services in the second administration, but I doubt she'd take it.

    There might be a deal to see her as the Vice President during the second term following a stint as Secretary of Health and Human Services. If that was offered, she might take it. I think she wants to run again.
     
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    He might pick Kathleen Sebelius. But I think he will go for Bill Richardson. If Obama picks a younger VP, it will force McCain to choose Bobby Jindal or Charlie Christ - Christ's election machine might be the only way for McCain to have a chance in Florida.

    Or.... He just want her to get it through the Senate :rolleyes: I think he would prefer her as far away as possible - and send her back to the Senate... Or Ambassador to some obscure place...
     
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    Sebelius is a good choice. She's seen as effective and bright, an excellent speaker, no skeletons in her closet either.

    Jindal I don't know at all.

    Crist is out of the running. He's gay.

    Very true. Hillary needs to campaign for him and that's it. There's talk of choosing her for the Supreme Court but I don't think she'd be happy there. All the other justices would make her reach for stuff on high shelves, get coffee (no joke they really do that to the most junior justice), and run errands. She'd be the youngest person there by far and it's literally a dead end job. Hillary's got life in her yet and the Senate is a very powerful, visible, and political place to be.
     
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    Jindal is the Louisiana Gov.
    I wouldn't count Christ out yet - he holds the key to Fl. for the GOP.

    And let's not forget the money - Billary have always been in it for the money...
     
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    Ah, now there's the Jason I know and love..welcome back! :wink:
     
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    omg thks hilary....just burnt my rug reading the other quote ...whatever can i just say...all of europe..which is the other world...we want u to be our president......let europe vote...uk want hilary
    hilary to rule like thatcher cud not rock x
     
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    Thanks for that
    .....but perhaps this time in English instead of nonsensical drivel.
     
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    LMAO!!!

    Thanks Dragonfly
     
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    Forgive me for saying this, but thank GOD you don't have a vote in this election.

    You actually believe that she wanted to have Obama assassinated. Out of all of the fear-mongering, character degrading spins out there about Clinton, this is by far the most laughable of them all. You will have a very difficult time convincing me, a black man who in a stereotypical fashion should have the paranoia, that Hillary Clinton wished for Obama's assassination. There is absolutely no logical reasoning behind it. And don't even bring up even her reference to RFK in the last few months in the Primary. That was already beaten to death and written off as ridiculous.

    What's next? Obama is a terrorist? Come on, people.... USE SOME COMMON SENSE!!!
     
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    Bring it up? Like it is an aside? Vinyl: that was DF's reference for that comment - Hillary's own words.. "we all remember RFK" anything can happen. while it's not an indication that she wanted Obama assassinated, it was in poor taste to illustrate 3(x) during the campaign (Hillary didn't say it just once - she said it on 3 occasions during the primary - made reference to RFK's assassination was in June - in addition to her husband not settling his nomination until June). It was her "anything can happen, so I'm not pulling out." It was in poor taste.

    THough I don't understand blasting one another when she has conceded and endorsed him. Even Obama's team is sending out emails to all of us that donated to thank Senator Clinton - even with the option to send a message to thank her for her hard work and courage and spirited commitment.

    I don't know that I can donate to forgive her 30 million campaign debt though. She's 30 million in the hole, but she has more money than Obama and McCain put together. I don't know. I'm sure Obama will have a strategy to help raise money to forgive that.
     
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    Nice inaugural post here on the Large Penis Support Group. :rolleyes:

    In case you hadn't noticed, the DEM nomination race is over. Clinton lost.

    It's not really all that laughable...there are a lot of strangely convenient deaths around the Clintons' aspirations to power.
     
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    The Clintons' would do anything to get what they want, I firmly believe that. Anyone who gets in their way better be very careful of who they're dealing with.
     
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