HIV, I am- and my soultmate+ what should i do

[B_VinylBoy]

mystery is closed. I came from doctor today, i went for 3.test and today I got my results. I am hiv positive :frown1: what to do with this fucking life I dont know.. thank you all for reading about my problems, and writing to me.. thank you all and take care
Use condom, for me it's too late

VERY sorry to hear that. :frown1:
Please understand that this isn't the end of the world. Many people with the virus continue to live healthy & long lives. One of my best friends with the virus has lived for more than 2 decades and shows no sign of slowing down. Just be more aware of your actions and strive to live a more healthier life. I know it sounds much easier than it looks on a web forum especially since you've been given the news recently, but that's the credo one of my positive friends and it seems to get her by. Above all, don't worry yourself over where you contracted the virus. It can happen to anyone of us and it's not a reflection of you as a person.

Give yourself time to deal with the news, then come back strong.

 

[2322]

Hmmmm..... :33:

Terribly sorry to hear that. Hope that isn't the case.

 

[brokenmen]

Hi jason, dont understand you.. that isn't the case?

 

[2322]

Hi jason, dont understand you.. that isn't the case?

It's confusing because first you said you weren't infected and now you say you are. What tests did they do? Where do you live?

 

[tal94]

dunno what country you live in, but you certainly get your test results quicker there than you do in Britain.
Tragic tale if true and almost feel a bit harsh saying the plot reminds me of swiss cheese

 

[KRIP10]

hey there bud its always hard to hear someone has been infected the reality of it is it is a manageable disease just not curable yet we learn how to live life with it and not to let rule the way you live your life. Any help you need you can ask for here or if you need to chat you can mail me at krip10@yahoo.com hugs xxxx

 

[D_fitnesswitness]

See, this is why HIV counseling is necessary. Here and on any internet forum, you're going to get a whole bunch of people telling you conflicting things. It's really important that you get your information from a professional source.

Many serodiscordant partners have relied on condoms and safe practices for a very long time and they enjoy sex. Learning what you can do to mitigate the potential for infection is important.

I still, however, urge genetic testing because again, you may be immune to HIV. If you're one of the lucky ones then thank providence.

And I also agree that your partner should get another test despite the fact that HIV tests have become more reliable than in the past. You should get two tests, three months apart, to be absolutely certain what your status is.

You seem to be a very knowledgeable source, Jason. so, question for you. (excuse my ignorance, so I must ask)

You said that HIV tests can be inaccurate, and due to what you and other posters have stated about the inaccuracy of the tests, I wonder if it is more likely that the test is:
a) incorrect in telling a HIV- individual that they are, indeed positive
OR
b) totally incorrect, and thus diagnosing an HIV+ individual, as HIV-

Is there even a likelihood or trend in the inaccuracy at all?

Thanks.

 

[D_skeaflea]

The evidence regarding the risks and benefits of HIV screening was reviewed in July 2005 by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force.[15] The authors concluded that:


"...the use of repeatedly reactive enzyme immunoassay followed by confirmatory Western blot or immunofluorescent assay remains the standard method for diagnosing HIV-1 infection. A large study of HIV testing in 752 U.S. laboratories reported a sensitivity of 99.7% and specificity of 98.5% for enzyme immunoassay, and studies in U.S. blood donors reported specificities of 99.8% and greater than 99.99%. With confirmatory Western blot, the chance of a false-positive identification in a low-prevalence setting is about 1 in 250 000 (95% CI, 1 in 173 000 to 1 in 379 000)."

Other studies have confirmed the accuracy of current methods of HIV testing in the United States, reporting false-positive rates of 0.0004% to 0.0007% and false-negative rates of 0.003% in the general population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_test#Accuracy_of_HIV_testing


Since the other tests came up negative and the 3rd one came up positive, you should consider getting tested at least one more time, just to rule out the small possibility that it could be a false positive. From what I hear, if you get a positive test they'll test you again 2 more times to make absolutely sure.

And just so you know: Going down on a person who's HIV+, or rimming them are very risky things to be doing; Swallowing semen is just as risky as swallowing their blood. The only safe sex to have with an HIV+ person is covered in a condom.

 

[MovingForward]

Please PM, I can talk to you about this situation.

I am HIV- and my partner was HIV+, we were in the same situation, same issues, sex, intamacy, the whole 9

 

[brokenmen]

first and second time i went for testing anonymily two weeks apart, both came negative.. and this 3.test I took was a month apart from the last testing.. I went to clinic of infectious disease (I live in ex yugoslavia) they did all 4.tests (4.generation or something.. i dont have papers with me anymore.. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]HIV-1, HIV-2 in HIV-0, p24... something like this..)and all this tests came positive this time.. I was speaking with doctor and he told me now it's final and I am hiv positive, then they took a lot of blood to do all final analysis (cd4 and all other things....) now I have to wait for this results for two weeks.

I can't belive this is happining to me, still in shock.. but if I get this wright, please correct me if I am wrong.. I got virus from my boyfriend, so now we are both infected with same type of virus- that means, we don't have to use a condom and do save sex, yes?

I read, it's a risky not to have save sex, even if you are both positive- with some other positive men (because he could have some different type of virus as you have) but if he is this person, you got a virus from then you both have same thing and we are free to do whatever we want to do, IS IT TRUE?
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[brokenmen]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Yes and they did Western blot and imunoblot test, all came positive :frown1:
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[KRIP10]

Hi boy please rather don't have unprotected sex together it will be a bad thing to keep on adding the virus to your bodies it will not help to keep you healthy and you will find that you viral load will keep on going up and up which in-turn will decrease your cd4 which is your immune system and once your cd4 gets to below 200 you efectivily will have full blown aids thats not a good place to be. As i have said before get onto ARVs even though they are permanent you will have a much better chance of staying healthy. My personal situation was a cd4 of 78 and a viral load of thousands and with ARVs I am now sitting with a CD4 of 600 and a non detectable viral load. which is a far better way to keep control of your health than to be worried about it all the time. So you and your boy should both take responsibility for keeping each other healthy from now on. xxx

 

[brokenmen]

krpi thank you.. but i asked doctor yesterday this same question, now I am confused. He said if this is a partner who i got virus from, then we dont have to be protected anymore. it will not infect our health, because we have same tape of virus. hm..

 

[B_cigarbabe]

Brokenmen I think you might want to find a different doctor if he's telling you
that it doesn't matter since you got it from your boyfriend.
I would suggest that you pm some of our members like Moving Forward
and KRIP10 because it does matter even if you are now both positive.
You should still not engage in unsafe sex regardless of your status.
Are there any members from the S.F.R. Yugoslavia who could help with finding a new doctor or give updated better information to brokenmen than his doctor is doing?
Do try and find some counseling for couples with your status.
I would also have the tests redone elsewhere.
cigarbabe:saevil:

 

[KRIP10]

Hi boy im no doctor but you are getting bad advice please find an hiv specialist in your town if you are serious about getting to grips with your situation its really important to understand what you have to do to deal with situation and the rest of your life. Even if things dont work out with your man you will have to deal with anyone else who comes into your life so find someone who can help you. Counseling will also help just to get trough the initial period of dealing with this
just remember your life will go on and its how you manage it that will determine the quality of life you will have and it can be a wonderful time please dont waste it. Have a wonderful festive season be with those who love you and can be a support to you dont do this alone you'll be amaize how much love there is out there. Xxxx
ps i'll be on leave till the 5 of january and will chat to you agin when i get back. Hugs

 

[vindicator]

Sorry to hear that you have tested positive. Have they started you on meds yet? If not, when are they going to start?

Previous treatment wouldn't start till your CD4 levels dropped below a certain point. Now they recommend to start immediatly. As other people have mentioned, if you take your meds correctly you will eventually have an undetectable amount of virus in your blood. That means that you most likely won't get sick from the virus and that you most likely won't be able to transmit the virus because it is at low to nil levels in your blood. For people who have had HIV for a long time, it will stay in your lymphatic tissue which is why it is important to start treatment immediatly.

It sounds like you and your BF have a journey ahead of you togethever, but as long as you both follow treatment correctly you will have long and non-infectious lives. There are also new treatments like bone marrow transplants with a CCR-5 delta 32 doner which have just been proven to effectively "cure" HIV from a person once and for all. Hang in there, there will be major changes just around the corner. You may one day be HIV - again.

A Doctor, a Mutation and a Potential Cure for AIDS - WSJ.com

Right now there is a push to get as many people tested for HIV as possible. They have said that if EVERYONE who is HIV+ gets on proper meds, everyone will drop to undetectable levels and then wont be able to transmit the virus anymore.

 

[brokenmen]

yes ,I am learning about hiv every day.. I don't understand, some doctors recommend to start with treatment immediatly, and some have different opinion. Early treatment has pozitive and negative side. if you start early, you have bigger chance for virus to become imun for medicine.. and this meds infect your health, thats second reason why it's better to wait with treatment until you can. this is an opininon of my doctor. he said- he has a patient, who has hiv for 10 years now, and he didn't have treatment until now, this year.. and he was perfectly fine and all those years had a highcd4.. hm.. I don't know, so lot's of different opinions.. what is the better thing to do, to have treatment imediatly or to wait?

I had bbsex with my boyfriend in this time, hm... I hope it's ok.. I miss him so much, we split happy holiday to everyone

 

[brokenmen]

I dont have results yet, in yaunary i would know everything, my cd4.. did everyone know some good forum for hiv+..