Homophobia against straight men

[deleted16932571]

I realise I'm off topic here. I think you need to research more...

I promise you, no amount of “research” will ever convince me that patriarchy is good and feminism is bad. Research—real, scholarly research—is how I came to the opposite conclusion in the first place.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

are we talking about a phobia or hate?
I have a phobia for spiders and therefore I do not seek them out.
When I hate something, I seek it out.

!!!!!

-Phobia in terms of suffixes to words can also mean hatred or aversion of. That's the definition being used in homophobia. An aversion from anything homosexual. Just as you said if you hate something you seek it out, some people seek out what they hate so as to eliminate it.

 

[englad]

I thought much of the article was on point. Homophobia and preconceived masculinity policing are deeply damaging to all types of men.

As for the misogyny and homophobia link, there are significant overlaps and similarities between the two. Highlighting that is accurate, but referring to it as the "bastard child of misogyny" makes it sound like the genesis of homophobia come from misogyny. It's intellectually dishonest to talk about the genesis of homophobia without bringing up religion (specifically the Abrahamic religions, which also have plenty of misogyny in their texts, but misogyny definitely predates those religions).

 

[RyanMars]

What the article is trying to say is patriarchy hurts all men. They should’ve centered patriarchy and then touched on homophobia.

 

[deleted10500801]

Really?!?
If one goes by a typical description of feminism (say: 11 Facts About Feminism), I don't know a single gay man in the US at least who would disagree with it.

It can be argued that the 'gay' identity which emerged in the 20th century is peak patriarchy and misogyny.

 

[Burghf_er]

It can be argued that the 'gay' identity which emerged in the 20th century is peak patriarchy and misogyny.

There isn't only one "gay identity" at a time in the USA, let alone the entire world and/or the entire 20th century. Sorry, you need to be more specific with your stereotyping.

 

[EquusAZ]

Homophobia against 'straight' men!? Lets call it what it is. Homophobia. PERIOD. Doesn't matter if they are gay, straight, or bi, being 'afraid' or hostile towards someone based on their percieved homosexuality is still homophobia.

 

[trav.]

From today's Guardian - outstanding article.

" [...] Similarly, so many straight men are victims of homophobia because it is principally about policing the boundaries of masculinity, rather than repulsion towards gayness per se. Queer men are normally the biggest sufferers of homophobic abuse and violence precisely because they are seen to be the worst violators of masculine norms. What is deemed more “unmanly” than having sex with other men, after all? This is why the designated term for queer people in Margaret Atwood’s dystopic The Handmaid’s Tale – “gender traitors” – is so apt. But if straight men engage in behaviour deemed to violate the boundaries of masculinity, they are at risk of homophobia, too: from failing to show enough physical aggression, to not objectifying women or treating them as equals, to talking about feelings or showing compassion – coded as a feminine trait – towards others.

Homophobia is the bastard child of misogyny: a means of conditioning men into embracing and glorifying traits that menace women and “unmanly” men alike. Eliminating homophobia will principally liberate queer people, but it will free straight men, too, to be themselves. It will mean a society with less violence and more love. And that’s why the homophobic persecution of straight men isn’t a tasteless distraction: to ignore it is to fail to understand homophobia at all."

Why homophobia against straight men matters | Owen Jones​

Owen Jones is homophobic.

 

[NotAfraidofHeights]

A lot of people are poorly socialized.

i act pretty flaming but nobody ever homophobically bullies me. Straight guys love me bc of my guts to be myself.

basically being feminine is the most masculine thing a man can do bc it challenges other men to check you. Basically straight men agree that i can flout the rules and do whatever i please. Thats why they dont check me because they know I will tear them apart. They know that i am so masculine that i do not need to be masc presenting to command respect.

Thisnis wat straight men are talking about when they say throwing it in their fave. Yes. I will throw it in your face and you will do notjing about it but whine bitch boy.


…like Prince or Louis 14th energy

 

[deleted18388141]

It s not homophobia it s machism and heteronomativity standards
Homophobia is different! And being straight and taking for gay is another thing too!