Shelby said:If you accent the fourth syllable instead of the third homophobia sounds like it could be someone's name.
Lex said:Stronzo--if the fundies knew HALF the fun we have all the time, they'd be 1000 times MORE upset.
SINFUL indeed!
Stronzo said:When I heard Donny Osmond, ages ago, say he'd "never received oral sex" (think it was Howard Stern) I nearly shat.
Stronzo said:Wonderful thread. Should get interesting.
I 'basically stopped going to church' because of the Christian stand on human rights for anyone other than heterosexual men.
(Can't wait to hear from Dr. Rock on this one....):biggrin1:
solong said:What's the matter, stronzo? Did all those nasty Christians side against you when they found out you are "100% gay and proud of it, and actively pursue a Gay lifestyle, and demand that they accept you like you are?" All the while, you didn't accept them. You were trying to condemn them for not accepting you.
What you need to do is ignore them. What makes you think they are "Christian?" Because they go to church? Sounds like you fell into the same trap they've already fallen into, to me! You know... "Ya gotta be in it to win it." Why don't you read your Bible, for a change. Do something that most Christians wouldn't think of doing. You haven't mentioned one scripture that would nail their butts. Why not? Because I suspect you didn't go to church to learn what God said. You went to church to prove to yourself that Christians are just no good.
When a person decides to join a church, he doesn't do so to "get the goods" on other people. He does it genuinely, to learn, not to accuse. You've told us you did this to accuse. (Maybe you didn't realize you told us that?)
What you didn't say was, "I wanted to know Christ's judgments about things."
You are so self-contradictory I'm amazed. First, you condemn Fundamentalist Christians, carte blanche. Doesn't matter what they think or how different they are. If they believe they are a "Christian," they are your enemy. And if they call themselves a "Fundie," they have your utmost scorn.
Hmm. Isn't that what you hated about them? Their evil, hypocritical "fundamentalism?"
In other words, you hate every Christian and so-called "fundamentalists" (fundies) even though some of them drank poison and commited suicide, and others play with poisonous snakes, and yet others followed David Koresh to his death. Doesn't matter to stronzo. They're all the same, and he doesn't give a shit who knows it. Asd he said in one thread to my signature below, "The difference is, you're Christian, and I'm not." In other words, that gives me the right to bash you, but you have no right to bash me.
So really, stronzo, I don't know who could pity you less-- other gays, or the Lord, Himself. You bring all your problerms on yourself, and then tell us all about it.
solong said:What's the matter, stronzo? Did all those nasty Christians side against you when they found out you are "100% gay and proud of it, and actively pursue a Gay lifestyle, and demand that they accept you like you are?" All the while, you didn't accept them. You were trying to condemn them for not accepting you.
What you need to do is ignore them. What makes you think they are "Christian?" Because they go to church? Sounds like you fell into the same trap they've already fallen into, to me! You know... "Ya gotta be in it to win it." Why don't you read your Bible, for a change. Do something that most Christians wouldn't think of doing. You haven't mentioned one scripture that would nail their butts. Why not? Because I suspect you didn't go to church to learn what God said. You went to church to prove to yourself that Christians are just no good.
When a person decides to join a church, he doesn't do so to "get the goods" on other people. He does it genuinely, to learn, not to accuse. You've told us you did this to accuse. (Maybe you didn't realize you told us that?)
What you didn't say was, "I wanted to know Christ's judgments about things."
You are so self-contradictory I'm amazed. First, you condemn Fundamentalist Christians, carte blanche. Doesn't matter what they think or how different they are. If they believe they are a "Christian," they are your enemy. And if they call themselves a "Fundie," they have your utmost scorn.
Hmm. Isn't that what you hated about them? Their evil, hypocritical "fundamentalism?"
In other words, you hate every Christian and so-called "fundamentalists" (fundies) even though some of them drank poison and commited suicide, and others play with poisonous snakes, and yet others followed David Koresh to his death. Doesn't matter to stronzo. They're all the same, and he doesn't give a shit who knows it. Asd he said in one thread to my signature below, "The difference is, you're Christian, and I'm not." In other words, that gives me the right to bash you, but you have no right to bash me.
So really, stronzo, I don't know who could pity you less-- other gays, or the Lord, Himself. You bring all your problerms on yourself, and then tell us all about it.
Matthew said:Notice he didn't say he'd never performed it.
Stronzo said:Wonderful thread. Should get interesting.
I 'basically stopped going to church' because of the Christian stand on human rights for anyone other than heterosexual men.
(Can't wait to hear from Dr. Rock on this one....):biggrin1:
Stronzo said:With all due respect Dude,
Any church, fraternal organization, country club, etc. which tells me that something I am by birthright is inherently wrong or "sinful" can simply fuck off.
So that includes the Bible in its existing form.
Speaking for myself and no one else, it really does not concern me whether or not anyone else "accepts" me.solong said:What's the matter, stronzo? Did all those nasty Christians side against you when they found out you are "100% gay and proud of it, and actively pursue a Gay lifestyle, and demand that they accept you like you are?" All the while, you didn't accept them. You were trying to condemn them for not accepting you.
I do ignore them, the problem is they don't ignore me. I am not lumping all religious believers together, but the ones I have a problem with are the ones who want control over certain aspects of my life. I have no desire to legislate and regulate what two consenting christians want to do in the privacy of their own homes. Why should they want to put those restrictions on me?What you need to do is ignore them.
I did read the bible, cover to cover, several times. I went to church to learn. I tried to be a christian and to believe, but the more I learned, the less I believed. I do not believe in the bible, and I resent anyone who tries to hold me accountable to their religion.Why don't you read your Bible, for a change. Do something that most Christians wouldn't think of doing. You haven't mentioned one scripture that would nail their butts. Why not? Because I suspect you didn't go to church to learn what God said. You went to church to prove to yourself that Christians are just no good.
I've seen this argument used on both sides. How 'bout if neither side bashes or oppresses the other, but simply follows the <gasp!> golden rule?... that gives me the right to bash you, but you have no right to bash me.
DC_DEEP said:I have no desire to legislate and regulate what two consenting christians want to do in the privacy of their own homes. Why should they want to put those restrictions on me?
JustAsking said:Why are the conservative Christians such enemies of freedom?
DC_DEEP said:I do not believe in the bible, and I resent anyone who tries to hold me accountable to their religion.I've seen this argument used on both sides. How 'bout if neither side bashes or oppresses the other, but simply follows the <gasp!> golden rule?
philboy said:Also the "bible belt" attitude to this topic in the Land of the Free is another issue which baffles me. But you guys in the USA can put me (an Englishman) right on that one.
prepstudinsc said:*gasp* But that's a BIBLICAL principal, one that Jesus told us by which to live. Read Matthew 7:12
prepstudinsc said:"12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." or Luke 6:31 "31Do to others as you would have them do to you."