Homosexuals are great for evolution!

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I have come to the conclusion having thought about it for a number of years that homosexuality serves two purposes both of which aids evolution.

a) a natural population control, where populations become extreme, the gay gene kicks in to slow the growth

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b) to extinguish bad genes, inherited bad genes from two people which together create offspring which is actually a devolved human being compared to the parents carries genes which are twice as unhelpful in evolutionary development terms so the gay gene kicks in to prevent bad genes from lasting in the gene pool.

If this is a pile of tosh then please let me know why so i can go sit back in the corner and re-think for another decade or do you think it makes sense?
 

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b) to extinguish bad genes, inherited bad genes from two people which together create offspring which is actually a devolved human being compared to the parents carries genes which are twice as unhelpful in evolutionary development terms so the gay gene kicks in to prevent bad genes from lasting in the gene pool.

LOL. Your saying gay people have bad genes? Oh and if u actually wanna check out the real science:

Gay genes boost fertility


The scientist interviewed the families of 98 homosexual and 100 heterosexual men – a total of 4,600 individuals – and found that mothers and maternal aunts (but not paternal relatives) of the homosexuals were more fertile than those of the straight men, and also produced more gay offspring. This indicates that the gene(s) that favours homosexuality also boosts female fertility and that homosexuality is passed through the maternal line, and so might be located on the X chromosome.
Access to articles : Nature Reviews Genetics
 

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Homosexuality does not stifle the urge to reproduce. In fact, through written history, we know that homosexuals did marry and reproduce. It would be extremely unusual, until recently, that homosexuals didn't reproduce. Modern marriage, where romantic love became the horse before the carriage, is a very recent construct (as is homosexuality as an exclusive orientation).
 

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Because with your theory; why then do we have overpopulation and genetic defects? I don't think that a minority of the population can offset the majority.

Well in my thinking my theory has room to explain this if for example

a) genetic defects are naturally overlooked in the greater scheme of things if they are minor defects which affect one in every other generation for instance....or....if the genetic defect is serious then perhaps the defect itself is also serving a purpose to limit genes being passed on......or most likely this is the resulting outcome when bad genes are passed down due to thoughtless breeding such as the offspring of incestuous relations maybe.......maybe even a gay male in Iran having a child because he cannot be seen to be gay may produce a child which has inferior genes......i'm not saying that the child wouldnt be normal by the way.

I guess i'm just interested in the theories that are around and which is most likely
 

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so i am guessing lesbians evolved to keep mullets, the LPGA and softball from going the way of the dodo?

*drags a nice comfy chair over to Mitchymo's corner* sweetie, bring a book you are going to be here a long time.

ml

and comfortable shoes. lesbians are all about comfortable shoes.
 
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LOL. Your saying gay people have bad genes? Oh and if u actually wanna check out the real science:

Access to articles : Nature Reviews Genetics

YES....the article you refer to identifies women with good genes.....which carry the gay gene (a good thing if my theory is true as it aids evolution)....the genes of a woman with this specific good gene producing a child with a man who may have bad genes in evolutionary terms may cause the gay gene to kick in if evolution would not benefit from the combining genes of the produced child into the gene pool
 

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Well in my thinking my theory has room to explain this if for example

a) genetic defects are naturally overlooked in the greater scheme of things if they are minor defects which affect one in every other generation for instance....or....if the genetic defect is serious then perhaps the defect itself is also serving a purpose to limit genes being passed on......or most likely this is the resulting outcome when bad genes are passed down due to thoughtless breeding such as the offspring of incestuous relations maybe.......maybe even a gay male in Iran having a child because he cannot be seen to be gay may produce a child which has inferior genes......i'm not saying that the child wouldnt be normal by the way.

I guess i'm just interested in the theories that are around and which is most likely
Well for one thing, I'm not buying your theory that gay genes are in anyway inferior, and for another thing in order for your theory to be tested correctly, any siblings of gay men or woman would have to not reproduce as well.Good luck collecting that data!
 
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Homosexuality does not stifle the urge to reproduce. In fact, through written history, we know that homosexuals did marry and reproduce. It would be extremely unusual, until recently, that homosexuals didn't reproduce. Modern marriage, where romantic love became the horse before the carriage, is a very recent construct (as is homosexuality as an exclusive orientation).

I have to graciously disagree as in historical terms society was less evolved so the gay gene in my theory is not so prevalent...only kicking in when populus becomes unsustainable with bad genes outnumbering good genes.....i have no urge as a homosexual to reproduce as a case in point of someone with a 'strong' gay gene
 

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Funny. Though grossly ignorant.

First up, and a big one here, gay maybe a matter of biology but not strictly genetic. There are no actual proven gay genes. You imply that homosexuals must carry other genes that nature considers massively detrimental to human survival, therefore has selectively made them gay as not to spread them... not so me thinks. Sexuality is not, as far as I'm aware' a precursory link to known genetic conditions.

YouTube - Is Homosexuality a Choice?

Have a watch, it might help, lol.

As to why homosexuality exists, in a social or evolutionary context, well, the jury is out on that one.

Personally, I don't believe anyone is 100% straight or gay but we all sit on a sexuality spectrum, some straighter so gayer than others. Look at Benobo chimps... Bonobo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ...sex is a sort of social lubricant if you will, I suppose ultimately keeping us from killing each other on a daily basis, lol.

Link it or not, humans are members of the animal kingdom, we have instincts too. Male male sex is extremely prevalent in the animal kingdom and always has been, we are no different.
 
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Am i to understand that you suggest men being gay and not reproducing somehow eliminates 'bad or deficient' genes from being passed on?

No....merely limiting the likelihood....gay people in my theory are like the stalemate in chess where the person carries as many good genes as bad genes but where the good genes contribute less than the damage that the bad genes do......and if in my theory homosexuality is one of natures ways of aiding evolution then it unfortunately cannot help in circumstances where man has an adverse impetus on the natural order by for example criminalising homosexuality which encourages people with bad genes to conduct heterosexual behaviour therefore producing offspring with bad genes or straight people having unprotected sex with strangers which they are not compatible with
 

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so i am guessing lesbians evolved to keep mullets, the LPGA and softball from going the way of the dodo?

*drags a nice comfy chair over to Mitchymo's corner* sweetie, bring a book you are going to be here a long time.

ml

and comfortable shoes. lesbians are all about comfortable shoes.

pmsl :biggrin1: i love your sense of humour.....but our offspring would be demonic haha
 

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Thank god us fags are around I guess otherwise we might have white trash uncontrolled at Walmart walking around the with dumb off spring.

DaVinci was really a loser too...thank goodness his weak defect genes have been eliminated from the gene pool.

Why not examine the agenda of a society that champions the uneducated and poor to reproduce and the wealthy and educated to not produce. I am actually for all walks of life but I think we could switch the focus and try to improve with each generation rather than devolve like the last 50 years. This of course would be a Fabian Solution in case you ever study philosophy.