Only when a foreign country took extensive interest in ours.
A little bit of truth never hurts, does it?
The NRA lobby there still manufactures it's lies of Australian gun laws for it's minions.
Honestly, wtf's up with your guns, murica?
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A little bit of truth never hurts, does it?
The NRA lobby there still manufactures it's lies of Australian gun laws for it's minions.
sodominsane
Legendary Member
Depends....if the the truth hurts....I prefer it in small doses☺
That's ok, it's only the internet, you can adjust your doses by clicking keys on a keyboard.
TurkeyWithaSunburn
Legendary Member
... but, but, but, the NRA only cares about the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America....
sodominsane
Legendary Member
Could you elaborate....I don't know much about us Australian interactions
I only know a bit....
Like in 80s we Americans had a brief facination with Australian culture....crocodile Dundee...foster need...that battery guy...men at work.....but then it passed
And coming from a family who made its living on the outside of the law....Australia has the toughest customs ever!!!....you would think China or Iran....but no it's super hard to smuggle anything in Australia....even mail.....so we avoided that place like the plague
Oh and in army I trained with some of your army guys.....good troops to be honest.....but man they could drink!!!!
I know, the same piece of paper that said all " men" are created equal. The same phrase that Sam Colt used to sell his guns. That you are not "equal", unless you own one of his guns.
So, the love affair began.
This is a recent snippet...http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/nra-criticises-australias-gun-laws/7106404
The US National Rifle Association went to great pains during our change of laws trying to spread fear mongering amongst Aussies.
We have different levels of gun ownership here in Australia. Ranging from single shot rifle, pistol, semi automatic to fully automatic.
The huge difference being you need to pass the criteria. What I am assuming is happening in the US, is that the dumb fucks who wish to own multiple automatic weapons can not, or do not possess the mentality to pass these laws or restrictions. So the NRA preys on this by spreading false information.
I, myself in the Gun Control forum have on many occasions posted the huge number of gun shops in Australia. Also, the licence needs and qualifications for each tier.
Look up yellow pages in Australia...Gun Shops. You will see we are far from being disarmed as a society. We just don't feel the need that Automatic, machine guns are part of the need to protect oneself.
Although, apparently, in the US, it's needed to prevent the multiple intruders by students into schools or cinemas or concerts.
We stopped it when tourists were being executed in Tasmania for being tourists. We had enough and did not wish to go there again. Before this, we had several mass shootings, that were on the rise.
We were a Gun society, in our case we were able to take an initiative. In the US case, it is too late.
There are too many nuts with guns. You know it, I know it.
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sodominsane
Legendary Member
Just so you know...automatic weapons inn the USA require a super hard to get licence and very expensive....and to date only 3 crimes have been comitted with a legal automatic
Also dispute what people say it varies a lot state to state
Also dispute what people say it varies a lot state to state
Does not answer the question about all those that posses one now. Those who kiss them and sleep with them under their bed every night, because they love them.
Too late. Too late. The thing about our laws is they were Federal. Shitty little States and Territories with gun worshipping idiots needed to abide by democratic numbers. The overwhelming numbers of Australian citizens decided democratically to end massacres.
Your government and the power mongers are afraid to have a referendum. Why? It's not a political issue.
Oh, poo, it would probably end up like the UK brexit. So much bullshit thrown in every direction, no-one would have a clue of the truth.
Braalian82
Superior Member
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Where are you getting that Canada and Switzerland have comparable levels of gun ownership to the United States? They’re not even close. France has higher gun ownership per capital than those two countries.
Look at the countries that *are* closest to America in gun ownership..... The former Yugoslavia, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia..... yeah, peaceful countries all.....
Braalian82
Superior Member
And you can’t compare homicide rates of third world countries to that of the United States, that’s absurd. Of *course* homicide rates are higher in Africa and Latin America, regardless of gun laws and/or ownership rates.
Compare us to the European Union. To Australia. To New Zealand. To Canada. To Japan. Those are the only comparisons that have any relevance whatsoever.
Compare us to the European Union. To Australia. To New Zealand. To Canada. To Japan. Those are the only comparisons that have any relevance whatsoever.
You are correct. We need to understand why people in these nations take up arms? Why if any should they take notice of a nation that wishes to disarm them, when said nation has no control over killing their own innocent school kids or concert, cinema goers from having no control over automatic weapons???
Would I take any notice of a hypocritical nation who did this? No. Because the US believes it's a right for every idiot to own an automatic machine gun.
Talking about provocative maneuvers, on a side note.
The US has decided to sail The USS Carl Vinson, with battle group through the South China Sea. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/04/world/asia/carl-vinson-vietnam.html
At the same time Don is raising tariffs for imports.
A couple of questions here, do you have a skilled workforce to produce your steel? Do you have the raw iron ore? It is not the 40's or 50's. Yet this is what is occurring.
The Chinese will not back down. They have one of the largest natural reserves of coal, iron ore, uranium, oil..etc. Plus....2 billion people ready to mobilise at a moments notice.
Any answers? China does not give a fuck. They have 2 billion people, they could lose a billion tomorrow and you would probably be doing them a favour.
The US...300 million. mmmm.
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The thing is here, is that Mexico did not come up with the invention of the Colt revolver. Known as the Mexican Colt......for obvious reasons.
Samuel Colts first sale, one of the first sales.... was to the Texas Rangers for a 1,000 revolvers, for the advance of the US cavalry in to Mexican borders.
Go figure. Rah rah.
But hey....the Texas Rangers were the good guys, cause Chuck Norris plays the Hollywood man of peace. Like John Wayne, Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone and all those other Hollywood heros with guns.
Cause Daniel Boone was a Man....
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sodominsane
Legendary Member
Great point....Mexico's murder rate TODAY can be explained by an invention 150 years ago
America was created after a bloody revolution. For many rebels, guns were seen as necessary for freedom.
This 2013 study shows that a 1% increase in gun ownership brings almost a 1% increase in gun-related homicides at a state level.
Developed nations with strict gun laws have fewer gun-related homicides.
American states with stricter gun laws have fewer gun-related homicides.
It turns out that guns are always involved in gun-related deaths, and where there are no guns, there is no gun violence. Funny how that works.
This 2013 study shows that a 1% increase in gun ownership brings almost a 1% increase in gun-related homicides at a state level.
Developed nations with strict gun laws have fewer gun-related homicides.
American states with stricter gun laws have fewer gun-related homicides.
It turns out that guns are always involved in gun-related deaths, and where there are no guns, there is no gun violence. Funny how that works.
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