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Wasnt looking for a relationship with her, but I did ask if she was real, and for her snap. She wanted to talk on the phone but I didn't feel like it.
 
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Wasnt looking for a relationship with her, but I did ask if she was real, and for her snap. She wanted to talk on the phone but I didn't feel like it.

I remember reading your thread about losing your virginity to some woman off of tinder, on there it sounded like that's what you were looking for.

Anyway, this person is probably a fake and was leading you on. Good luck, I'm sure you wont make the same mistake again.
 
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Try treating her with dignity and respect like you should every human being.

Good advice. Here is some more. Forget the phobic posters on this site. All these guys panic when they hear of a woman who might be lusty. Meet her. Be open to learning about her. Of course talk to her on the phone. If you don't feel like real human contact, blame yourself for being frustrated and lonely... you might also blame the know it alls on this site who don't want you to do anything.

If she is not real, say goodbye. If she is, do what you would do on a first time... be safe, have a good time. Then both get tested, then have a better time. 12 partners is not all that many. Maybe she will teach you something. And if after all this time she disappears, that is not necessarily because she wasn't real in the first place. It could be because she got bored of you doing nothing.
 
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Good advice. Here is some more. Forget the phobic posters on this site. All these guys panic when they hear of a woman who might be lusty. Meet her. Be open to learning about her. If she is not real, say goodbye. If she is, do what you would do on a first time... be safe, have a good time. Then both get tested, then have a better time. 12 partners is not all that many. Maybe she will teach you something.

I think you should read some of the posts he's made discussing what this person has been doing since they've started talking.
 

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... the people you'll want to actually meet and possibly get into relationships with will be found outside, not on your computer or some app on your phone. As a guy it can be tough and approaching totally random women can be intimidating but it is worth it, just be prepared for rejection and or those who you really hit it off with already being in a relationship.
I second this. And it's a question only of approaching random women; you can use your friends, your acquaintances, and – yes – random women that you approach as an entrée to other groups and other women. Of course, the more you do it the easier it becomes, and the more contacts you have the bigger your social circle will expand.
 
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I think you should read some of the posts he's made discussing what this person has been doing since they've started talking.

I think you should stop generalizing from your very limited experience.
 

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I think you should stop generalizing from your very limited experience.

You are a fool if you think there is any chance this person is for real. Read the part where the OP said that this totally random person followed him on Instagram and was right away looking to "hook up", he also mentioned that this person was randomly adding guys from the same school he went. No mutual contacts, no mutual schools, places of work, etc.. Then when they were supposed to meet up she flakes out, then when he asks for a snapchat she just wants to talk on the phone instead.

You live in a fairy tale land if you don't get this.
 

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I second this. And it's a question only of approaching random women; you can use your friends, your acquaintances, and – yes – random women that you approach as an entrée to other groups and other women. Of course, the more you do it the easier it becomes, and the more contacts you have the bigger your social circle will expand.

Meeting a potential bf or gf through your social circle is probably the best means of doing this but it can often be limiting and may not even be an option for some people.
 

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Wasnt looking for a relationship with her, but I did ask if she was real, and for her snap. She wanted to talk on the phone but I didn't feel like it.

This in my mind is where you fall flat on your face. Anybody that can't be bothered to talk on the phone without an app or computer is suspect.
 

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He's the suspect fake if he can't be bothered to talk on the phone.

I'm not going to get into this, but he took the advice given to him by me and another poster by trying to confirm her identity, he did this by requesting her snapchat. Instead of this she just wanted to talk on the phone, as if that will somehow prove that she is for real. A random woman isn't going to follow some dude she has no connection with on social media and start sending nudes within 10 minutes of talking. He mentioned that this person was also following other guys randomly who went to the same school as him, again with no real connection with these individuals. Motive is simple, use fake pics of a hot girl, follow random guys knowing that some will be open to talking. Send nudes to these guys in the hopes of either getting nudes back and or to just get their attention.


This type of stuff happens all the time on the internet, as well as on this site.

I'm really hoping some people can learn something from this post, save yourself from wasting your time with sick people.
 

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Plenty of women follow random guys and vice versa on social media... and plenty want to hook up straight away. Doesn't mean they are fake.

Maybe she did have her period, maybe she got shy from talking up a big game, or maybe she is fake. But you won't know unless you meet her or unless she gives you too many red flags.

I've met more men from the internet than I can count (mostly not for hookups). Because I'm shy. Not because I'm fat and ugly. I'm not a catfish. And out of all of the men I've met I've only been catfished a couple of times... both just had really old photos. I got caught out quite bad once by a catfish and it took me awhile to realise that his excuses for not being able to talk on the phone, text me, take more pics or meet me was because he was a catfish.

Sending nudes isn't my style but most men aren't ashamed to do it within the first ten mins, so why judge a woman when she does?

Don't listen to sangheili, he's had sex once and has a warped and unhealthy view of the world and women.
 
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Over half of my past sexual partners/playmates were found via the Internet. Out of the 30+ people I met that way, I never have been one for coy bullshit. If I wanted a specific thing, I was blunt and said so early on. I've only been misled a couple of times and it was pretty easy to figure out early on. I think having a broader sample size than one is likely to provide ever so slightly more realistic data...

Catfishing and dishonest or manipulative people do exist, sure, but plenty of women don't fit sangheili's extremely narrow view of how women can be. In spite of him thinking he has it all figured out, after being intimate with a sample size of one.
 
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I have just a few more years experience than you. And yes if you can't talk on the phone you are suspect. I started with a TRS-80 you?

You literally don't grasp how people get catfished, I even explained it to you and you still don't get it.

Shame on you and the rest of these idiots encouraging the OP to continue talking to this person and calling him a fake for not speaking on the phone with an obvious catfish. I don't get why so many posters on this site continue to argue when a very clear explanation has been made, with facts put together showing this to be the case. "I have just a few more years experience than you" isn't an argument against anything I said, you might be older but you don't know much.
 
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@Greg18

Don't let these losers talking shit get to you, you are doing the right thing by not continuing to waste time speaking with this catfish. I hope you learned a bit about catfishing, I'm sure next time if something like this happens you will not waste your time. You are young and have a long time to learn and grow, have it.
 
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I know enough to still be married after 26 years, and we have no problem finding playmates to bring home.;)

Damn, what does that compare to a sample size of one hook up with one person ever, though? People who have had successful relationships of years, successful hook ups/casual, multiple sexual partners, etc? Psh, that's nothing. We're all losers :rolleyes::p

We're not the ones who have a history of posts asking for help with relationships, but everyone else knows nothing :p
 
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