Hot for dick vs. hot for men

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  1. D_Harvey Schmeckel

    D_Harvey Schmeckel New Member

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    As a gay man who consumes a lot of straight porn, yet is frustrated by some aspects of it, I have recently learned something from posters here that helps me frame a theory to share. Have read at least four and I think more guys here say basically that they are very aroused by dicks but indifferent to the male body and face. I get so pissed off at straight porn where the director constantly cuts off the heads of the male performers-- but if you like the sight of a big dick fucking and don't care about the body and face, this works for you just fine. You want to see the female body and face getting the attention. Although I first had a WTF? reaction to seeing several guys report the same pattern, I then had an Aha! moment, that I'm the same way about pussies and women. Can watch pussies getting fucked for hours, but female faces and bodies just don't do much for me.

    So here's the theory: being hot for primary sexual characteristics is hardwired and bisexual. It's normal for men and women to be aroused at the sight of dicks and pussies. But being hot for secondary sexual characteristics, like relative size and shape of bodies, is a much more learned process and tends to be so focused on one gender or the other that it can drown out the deeper bisexual bias for arousal by all genitalia.
    Which however has ways of breaking through into consciousness!

    Now of course I'm generalizing from four or five guys here to the whole human race, and in a site where hot-for-dick-even-if-straight is a self-selected trait. But I also have spent vast amounts of time in the 80s/90s in naturist resorts in the US, Europe, and Canada, which provided abundant evidence that straight guys can't help staring at dick!

    My half-assed theory has the virtue of explaining the relatively huge market share occupied by shemale porn, in contrast to the very small transgendered population. Giant dicks, big titties, no beards or muscles, soft female bodies. A conscious bias for female secondary sexual characteristics tells you that watching a shemale ass get fucked is OK whereas standard gay porn is eeeww gay. But that basic hardwired bisexual hotness for genitalia of all varieties gets satisfied by the trannie's big dick.

    Any truth in this?
     
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    i think it's a good theory. :cool:

    I find it's the main reason why shemale porn is so big now. It is often the "halfway house" between liking a woman's face/body/figure, and liking a hard cock. I reckon more often than not, it's this combination that is the killer for those who watch shemale porn.
     
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    Well thought out. Most men that one day realize that they like to look at cock and are aroused by it, struggle with the cultural garbage that tells them that its bad and they are "fags" or some other slur or label. so, looking at a shemale is mostly OK then as she has tits and a womans roundness and overall look except for the cock. It is indeed a halfway house for those of us who love to see cock. In my case, I still like to watch a hot shemale but find I then want to see the real thing and go to gay porn and crave cock attached to a complete male. I am still attracted to the genetalia for the most part however, with other body charastics a secondary consideration.
     
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    I consider you a modern day philosopher, sir. Awesome theory. I've thought about a lot of this and you've surmised it well.
     
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    Thanks, I appreciate anyone who likes to think about what pushes our buttons sexually and why. This site gives a huge amount of fodder for speculating about sex and I've never seen a place where straight and gay, men and women, share so openly of their experience in quite this way. It's intellectually stimulating as well as making my dick hard a lot lately.
     
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    Hmm... Guess that's why I _HATE_ mornings... I hate looking at a guy's wood (even my own, damnit!!!)
     
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    Sounds... sensible.

    And some guys like me can be hot-for-pussy but not hot-for-women.
     
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    How do you feel about Buck Angel?
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    I'm more turned on by the idea of a buff guy with a juicy pussy than by this particular performer. But this niche of the porn market is tiny compared to shemale and I've never heard anyone report fantasies along these lines.
     
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    Really great theory and I reckon it's pretty much spot on. I think it sums me up perfectly. I rarely check out guys in the way I do with women but I am a total cock whore! Don't really care what it is attached to.

    Reckon ILIW is also bang on with the shemale thing.
     
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    It's an interesting idea, but don't call it a theory. It's a hypothesis right now. You'd need to conduct experiments and/or surveys to find if there is evidence to support your idea. If so, then it's on its way to becoming a theory. Calling initial untested ideas "theories" lends credibility to the creationist argument of "evolution is just a theory."
    :)
     
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    I'll sign up for that line of thinking. I'm definitely hot for cock but couldn't imagine ever kissing or being emotionally intimate with a man.
     
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    guys don't turn me on, but cock does
     
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    To be honest, kinda freaked out. But fine with shemales. Odd.
     
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    Less than 5% of guys make me react viscerally to their overall looks in a "oh that's hot" kind of way. Nice cocks & balls, or interesting female primary sexual characteristics nearly always flip my switch. I definitely agree that at least most men are hardwired bisexual by sexual parts. This is what some people often consider "male objectification" in a negative way. To me it's just a fact of life and I only consider "male objectification" when a guy can't see the rest of the person for the parts.

    What this means in real life is that as a guy when I think "nice boobs" I'm not objectifying the female, I'm objectifying the boobs. If I were objectifying the female I wouldn't also have considerations for what she's like as a person, etc. Unfortunately the guys who really don't have any consideration for women as people get the rest of us lumped in with them.
     
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    I think this is really brilliant and thoughful. Love how you're actually thinking about about all the responses on this site.

    I would say that I am turned on by big dicks...I like pictures of the whole male body...a lean muscled body with a giant oversized dick attached. That's the only thing that turns me on as far as men are concerned. If there's any other combination, then it doesn't do anything for me at all. As you can imagine, this body type is rare in reality.

    As far as women I'm turned on by a huge variety of different types and looks. I'm fascinated and moved by all types and parts of a woman's body and can see each part could be sexy.

    I can appreciate a good body on a man...but it doesn't move me at all by itself. Strong arms don't arouse any feeling in me....it's only when the big cock is there, that I can get turned on...doubt I'd ever act on such feelings by the way.

    So I like your thoughts on this phenomen and I think you're on to something.
     
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    I to like dick but don't find men attractive and can't see myself ever being in a relationship with a man.
     
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    I can relate to this theory. When I think of myself in a relationship I always imagine it with a woman - I'm attracted to woman as a whole. However, I can appreciate a good dick on a guy but that's about all I focus on and I guess it's why I watch porn involving guys jacking off from time to time. I have little to no interest in anal sex (male or female for that matter, although I know that it isn't necessarily what defines you as gay) and I don't find male-to-male affection (kissing, massaging, etc) attractive.
     
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    It is a good theory, but you might have to improve it to come up with a Special Theory of Cockativity. I mean, I like muscular women and I like the male body. Out of shape women are turn-offs, but a fat guy with a huge erection - it depends how big the cock is and how obese the guy, you know?

    You see, I don't take a position on which team I will bat on today. I like women, I don't like men. But not being white or rich/famous, I know I don't rank very high on the Straight Male Food Chain. The Non-Straight Male Food Chain is much more egalitarian. It's been found for instance that white women, even though they'll list no race preference on dating sites - important because it provides the cover of relative anonymity, will almost never respond to non-white men. Oddly, the same is true of Orientals and all "lesser than white" (sic) races and ethnicities. On the other hand, white men on dating sites are usually not so prejudiced, and of course the "owe white man a favour for civilisation and fire" races' men also are desperate for companionship, so much that they lose race preference, both in word and action. So, considering this bullshit liar mentality rampant in the world, and I being a natural born pervert, thought about what was more important: getting my rocks off or having a rejection/break up with a stand in for the girl of my dreams. I like to fuck. And I am an opportunist. I love women and their bodies, like cocks, and don't mind men. Not so much into trannies but who knows what's possible with lust and intoxicants. Did I mention I like to fuck?
     
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    I have always been hot for dick and not hot for men. But if the world's biggest, most beautiful dick were attached to the most slovenly, unkempt and unhygienic body imaginable the rest of the body would pretty much negate the value of the dick for me. Conversely a trim, fit, well maintained body will enhance the hotness of whatever dick it's attached to. So even for someone who is as cock-focused as I am the rest of the man plays an important role in the overall sexual attraction.
     
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