How are married guys finding gay sex without craigslist and backpage?

If you date women would you use Grinder or Scruff?

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Bit of a ramble but I've noticed more people have been moving to here (LPSG). The phone apps don't allow for enough privacy that closeted men prefer, and let's be real, no matter how "straight" you may be (since we all know gay men love their "straight" men) if you're not close to a 10 in the looks department, you will not be successful on the gay phone apps. Gay men judge and rate men much like straight men judge and rate women. This is one of the reasons why I think "straight" men aren't interested in dating other men because if you're say a 5 in looks, you can still land a decent amount of attractive women. If you're a dude who's a 5 in looks trying to date another man - forget about it (lol). They know dating women is easier.

Because of the above, I also think it's going back to regular cruising.

Not my experience in gay phone apps at all. I am far from a 10, and I have to schedule hook ups 2 to 3 weeks in advance to keep up with demand. It’s as much about “game” online as it is in person. Are there guys online who are looking for a particular physical type and nothing else who ignore or block me? Sure, but I just move on. In fact, they save me time by self-deselecting. I’ve hooked up with guys through apps who are 10s who complain that they can’t get laid. It has a lot less to do with looks than people think. It’s counterintuitive, but having a “fuckable” personality online matters - a lot.
 
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Not my experience in gay phone apps at all. I am far from a 10, and I have to schedule hook ups 2 to 3 weeks in advance to keep up with demand. It’s as much about “game” online as it is in person. Are there guys online who are looking for a particular physical type and nothing else who ignore or block me? Sure, but I just move on. In fact, they save me time by self-deselecting. I’ve hooked up with guys through apps who are 10s who complain that they can’t get laid. It has a lot less to do with looks than people think. It’s counterintuitive, but having a “fuckable” personality online matters - a lot.

Fuckable online personality means lowering your standards, which most gay men don’t do.
 
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Fuckable online personality means lowering your standards, which most gay men don’t do.
As I said, my experience is precisely the opposite. And since you are disposed to saying things like “most gay men don’t do,” I humbly suggest that you consider whether your online personality is fuckable.
Fuckable online personality means lowering your standards, which most gay men don’t do.

As I said, my experience is precisely the opposite. And since you are disposed to saying things like “most gay men don’t do” (as if gay men share a hive mind, and which is offensive on its face), I humbly suggest that you consider whether your online personality is fuckable.
 
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As I said, my experience is precisely the opposite. And since you are disposed to saying things like “most gay men don’t do,” I humbly suggest that you consider whether your online personality is fuckable.


As I said, my experience is precisely the opposite. And since you are disposed to saying things like “most gay men don’t do” (as if gay men share a hive mind, and which is offensive on its face), I humbly suggest that you consider whether your online personality is fuckable.

What is a fuckable online personality? Please explain that? It actually sounds quite crazy and I don’t believe some of the things that you’ve written. I think you’ve completely exaggerated for the sake of this being the internet.
 

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I went on Doublelist when they first started, I had the same thought... Can't blame themfor wanting to be first... But I was on there last night and I see they are making big improvements. There are two new areas that are marked (Coming Soon) Sex Education and Entertainment.
Only issue I had was that I replied t a few adds but got no response? The list seemed old maybe? It might be worth a second look?

Entertainment will have:
  • Live chat
  • Online bfs / gfs
  • Content for sale
  • Items for sale
  • Many more...


I've posted ads and replied to ads and got responses for both. Both times I posted ads I got pretty overwhelming responses. I think its just as hit or miss as CL, maybe better since the spammers don't seem to have caught on yet.
 

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What is a fuckable online personality? Please explain that? It actually sounds quite crazy and I don’t believe some of the things that you’ve written. I think you’ve completely exaggerated for the sake of this being the internet.

Don’t be an asshole who is only online to call other people out to make themselves feel better, for one!

Whether you care to believe it or not, there are a lot of guys that hookup online that are not just looking to meet up, bang and go. A lot of guys want a sense of fun, and connection, and closeness even if it is somewhat superficial and fleeting. Lots of guys want sex to be fun. That’s my sweet spot.

I wrote sexy, amusing bios for my profiles and guys from all over the world write to tell me that they liked what they read. When I hear from or reach out to local guys, I read their profiles and see if there’s any common ground upon which to build a rapport. Then it becomes a dialogue. I almost never talk about sex right away unless they bring it up.

I flirt, and I joke, and I chat, and very often it turns sexual, and very often that turns into irl sex. I am a handsome guy, which helps, but I’m overweight and in my 40s too.

If my profiles were nothing more than lists of dos and don’ts for hooking up with me, and if I started every conversation with “looking?,” I am sure I’d get almost nowhere.

But I get it as much as I say I do, and you can believe that or not. I get laid two or three times a week if I want to, and most of those guys are “hotter” than me by a mile. And when push comes to shove, I’m awesome in bed, so I don’t disappoint. That means, lots of repeat customers, thank you very much.

In short, I do the best I can with my physical attractivess, try to be engaged and engaging, charming, funny, sexy and open. That’s a fuckable online personality. Do I have to work harder than a super hot 28 year old? Probably, but this middle aged, chunky, hairy, handsome guy with pimples on his butt gets laid so much that I don’t give a fuck.

Believe it or not, that’s up to you. But I am going to the Sheraton Grand in Chicago at 4:30 today to have sex with a very attractive 26 year old guy in town for a conference. :)

And finally, the people on the other end of the online profiles aren’t “those kinds of gays that would always or never do X.” They are human men with issues, foibles, hearts, and minds, no matter how good they may look. But I don’t think you get that.
 

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Don’t be an asshole who is only online to call other people out to make themselves feel better, for one!

Whether you care to believe it or not, there are a lot of guys that hookup online that are not just looking to meet up, bang and go. A lot of guys want a sense of fun, and connection, and closeness even if it is somewhat superficial and fleeting. Lots of guys want sex to be fun. That’s my sweet spot.

I wrote sexy, amusing bios for my profiles and guys from all over the world write to tell me that they liked what they read. When I hear from or reach out to local guys, I read their profiles and see if there’s any common ground upon which to build a rapport. Then it becomes a dialogue. I almost never talk about sex right away unless they bring it up.

I flirt, and I joke, and I chat, and very often it turns sexual, and very often that turns into irl sex. I am a handsome guy, which helps, but I’m overweight and in my 40s too.

If my profiles were nothing more than lists of dos and don’ts for hooking up with me, and if I started every conversation with “looking?,” I am sure I’d get almost nowhere.

But I get it as much as I say I do, and you can believe that or not. I get laid two or three times a week if I want to, and most of those guys are “hotter” than me by a mile. And when push comes to shove, I’m awesome in bed, so I don’t disappoint. That means, lots of repeat customers, thank you very much.

In short, I do the best I can with my physical attractivess, try to be engaged and engaging, charming, funny, sexy and open. That’s a fuckable online personality. Do I have to work harder than a super hot 28 year old? Probably, but this middle aged, chunky, hairy, handsome guy with pimples on his butt gets laid so much that I don’t give a fuck.

Believe it or not, that’s up to you. But I am going to the Sheraton Grand in Chicago at 4:30 today to have sex with a very attractive 26 year old guy in town for a conference. :)

And finally, the people on the other end of the online profiles aren’t “those kinds of gays that would always or never do X.” They are human men with issues, foibles, hearts, and minds, no matter how good they may look. But I don’t think you get that.
Very wonderfully expressed !
 
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Don’t be an asshole who is only online to call other people out to make themselves feel better, for one!

Whether you care to believe it or not, there are a lot of guys that hookup online that are not just looking to meet up, bang and go. A lot of guys want a sense of fun, and connection, and closeness even if it is somewhat superficial and fleeting. Lots of guys want sex to be fun. That’s my sweet spot.

I wrote sexy, amusing bios for my profiles and guys from all over the world write to tell me that they liked what they read. When I hear from or reach out to local guys, I read their profiles and see if there’s any common ground upon which to build a rapport. Then it becomes a dialogue. I almost never talk about sex right away unless they bring it up.

I flirt, and I joke, and I chat, and very often it turns sexual, and very often that turns into irl sex. I am a handsome guy, which helps, but I’m overweight and in my 40s too.

If my profiles were nothing more than lists of dos and don’ts for hooking up with me, and if I started every conversation with “looking?,” I am sure I’d get almost nowhere.

But I get it as much as I say I do, and you can believe that or not. I get laid two or three times a week if I want to, and most of those guys are “hotter” than me by a mile. And when push comes to shove, I’m awesome in bed, so I don’t disappoint. That means, lots of repeat customers, thank you very much.

In short, I do the best I can with my physical attractivess, try to be engaged and engaging, charming, funny, sexy and open. That’s a fuckable online personality. Do I have to work harder than a super hot 28 year old? Probably, but this middle aged, chunky, hairy, handsome guy with pimples on his butt gets laid so much that I don’t give a fuck.

Believe it or not, that’s up to you. But I am going to the Sheraton Grand in Chicago at 4:30 today to have sex with a very attractive 26 year old guy in town for a conference. :)

And finally, the people on the other end of the online profiles aren’t “those kinds of gays that would always or never do X.” They are human men with issues, foibles, hearts, and minds, no matter how good they may look. But I don’t think you get that.

I don’t make myself feel better, I already feel good. I just tell the truth and tell it like it is. Also, I’m not convinced by what you said because you omitted your rejection rate (like most people do when they lie on the internet). How many 26 year old’s did you have to hit up before one responded back?
 

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I don’t make myself feel better, I already feel good. I just tell the truth and tell it like it is. Also, I’m not convinced by what you said because you omitted your rejection rate (like most people do when they lie on the internet). How many 26 year old’s did you have to hit up before one responded back?

I don’t really think of myself as having a rejection rate, because I don’t talk to people online only for sex, as I explained.

I have the same attitude in the apps as I did when I used to go out to the bars and clubs. My main goal is to just have a good time. Take a look around, meet some people and have some chats. If I end up getting luck - bonus! And I get lucky often enough that I do t have to sweat it at all.

But I f I had to guess, I’d say I only end up sleeping with about 30% of the people I chat with. And so what?

Sometimes I say hi and don’t hear back. Oh well, that took 10 seconds. Sometimes I hear back and have a brief, stilted conversation and don’t have sex. So what? 2 minutes invested. Often I have a fun chat and don’t have sex, but, you know, I had fun. Often enough, I have a fun chat and sex. Super!

I am literally getting all the sex I want and need, so my “rejection rate” doesn’t really matter, not to me anyway.

And, btw, I have a 0% rejection rate with guys under 35, because I only hit up guys closer to my age. Every guy under 35 that I’ve slept with in the past two years came looking for me. Just like the guy I was with last night, which was amazing.
 

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I don’t really think of myself as having a rejection rate, because I don’t talk to people online only for sex, as I explained.

I have the same attitude in the apps as I did when I used to go out to the bars and clubs. My main goal is to just have a good time. Take a look around, meet some people and have some chats. If I end up getting luck - bonus! And I get lucky often enough that I do t have to sweat it at all.

But I f I had to guess, I’d say I only end up sleeping with about 30% of the people I chat with. And so what?

Sometimes I say hi and don’t hear back. Oh well, that took 10 seconds. Sometimes I hear back and have a brief, stilted conversation and don’t have sex. So what? 2 minutes invested. Often I have a fun chat and don’t have sex, but, you know, I had fun. Often enough, I have a fun chat and sex. Super!

I am literally getting all the sex I want and need, so my “rejection rate” doesn’t really matter, not to me anyway.

And, btw, I have a 0% rejection rate with guys under 35, because I only hit up guys closer to my age. Every guy under 35 that I’ve slept with in the past two years came looking for me. Just like the guy I was with last night, which was amazing.
Glad it works for you. Good attitude to have !
 

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” I humbly suggest that you consider whether your online personality is fuckable.

I get exactly what you mean by this. As a married and curious guy who's in a relationship that is transitioning to possibly including a guy for me to play with, I find MANY online personas on Doublelist and the likes very intimidating for an inexperienced curious guy like me. Of the few that call themselves tops or versatile types, a majority seem to be 100% gay, confident, dominate, and verbal alphas. They want deep kissing (not looking to kiss here...). Their profile tends to talk about pounding a guys ass. While I love decent size toys in me, not sure if a "pounding" is what I'm looking for right off. Now that said, the few times I've posted an ad for me as newbie curious, I had a couple guys that seemed soft spoken, shaved cock and balls (a must), and approachable. But either timing or geography prevented moving forward.
So yes, the online profile can say a lot about your wants and needs.
 
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There is no such thing as an online fuckable personality. Like I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Sometimes, when I’m on LPSG I think I’m in the Twilight Zone. I have to remind myself that this is the internet and that people lie and exaggerate like @Schulteraffe.

Look, if you are hooking up, dating, fucking, sexting, doing whatever online, it doesn’t matter what your “online fuckable personality” is, or what your write on your profile, or how you describe yourself, or your interests, etc. none of that shit matters. What matter is how you look. Let me repeat, what matters is the pictures of yourself that you put up. It is as simple as that. It’s the internet, what do people not understand about this? Wanna know why Tinder is super successful? Because it’s a quick yes or no based off of guess what?!? P-H-O-T-O-S! Not an online fuckable personality! Not a description of yourself! Not multiple paragraphs about that types of guys that “allegedly” hook up with! It’s based on pictures - simple, period, point blank. Same with Grindr, Jackd, Scruff and LPSG. All of that shit and the success from it is based off of photos.

Now back to what I was originally saying. Gay men are very picky. Everyone knows this. Photos mean a lot on gay apps. If you’re not photogenic or if you’re not conventionally attractive, then maybe you have to rely on a well-written profile description and perhaps a prayer. Maybe you’ll get some action, maybe you won’t. Maybe you’ll come on LPSG and exaggerate about your hook up experiences from your Pulitzer Prize winning online profiles. All I know is that looks matter. Anyone that says differently is straight up lying, but as I have repeadly said - that’s what people do on the internet.
 
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Squirt.org and Grindr are both very active.
Yeah, but Squirt can just be nasty. I find that it is generally populated with a very tired, old, well used group of sex addicts. I'm trying not to be pejorative, but that's a pretty decent snapshot of the site. I have popped in for a day or two, here and there, and it's the same group of people that have been there for years and years, and they swarm over people that are fresh meat.

My caveat here is that I love older daddies. Just not seedy, bathhouse daddies that cruise for public sex and like to bareback. Also, Squirt isn't entirely populated by the above. I'd say 5% are under 25, a small chunk is in their late 30's and mid 40's, and the larger population is 50-65.

Grindr is much better, generally speaking.

But, at the end of the day, it all depends on what you like and what you are looking for.
 
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There is no such thing as an online fuckable personality. Like I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Sometimes, when I’m on LPSG I think I’m in the Twilight Zone. I have to remind myself that this is the internet and that people lie and exaggerate like @Schulteraffe.

Look, if you are hooking up, dating, fucking, sexting, doing whatever online, it doesn’t matter what your “online fuckable personality” is, or what your write on your profile, or how you describe yourself, or your interests, etc. none of that shit matters. What matter is how you look. Let me repeat, what matters is the pictures of yourself that you put up. It is as simple as that. It’s the internet, what do people not understand about this? Wanna know why Tinder is super successful? Because it’s a quick yes or no based off of guess what?!? P-H-O-T-O-S! Not an online fuckable personality! Not a description of yourself! Not multiple paragraphs about that types of guys that “allegedly” hook up with! It’s based on pictures - simple, period, point blank. Same with Grindr, Jackd, Scruff and LPSG. All of that shit and the success from it is based off of photos.

Now back to what I was originally saying. Gay men are very picky. Everyone knows this. Photos mean a lot on gay apps. If you’re not photogenic or if you’re not conventionally attractive, then maybe you have to rely on a well-written profile description and perhaps a prayer. Maybe you’ll get some action, maybe you won’t. Maybe you’ll come on LPSG and exaggerate about your hook up experiences from your Pulitzer Prize winning online profiles. All I know is that looks matter. Anyone that says differently is straight up lying, but as I have repeadly said - that’s what people do on the internet.

Laugh out loud at whatever you like. We all deserve laughter in our lives!! I’m glad you got a good chuckle. Does something not exist because you think it laughable? I’m pretty sure the answer to that is no.

By the way, not everyone knows that gay men are ‘very picky.’ That’s just a negative stereotype that sometimes grows into a prejudice. I Could only speculate as to why you have embraced this notion, but I’m guessing that it provides some measure of cold comfort. Have you ever consider that this type of thinking is more of a limitation than anything else?

Just to be clear, because I think it’s important, I never said that looks or pictures don’t matter - just that personality matters, too and, sometimes, might even be more important.

My experience is that my personality matters to many of the people who meet me and is certainly very important to me regarding the people I choose to meet.

I’ve attached two screenshots if chats with two guys who have hit me up in the past few days. I already have a date set up with one of them and enjoyed swell chats with them both. I think it’s pretty clear that my profile played a pretty big part. I redacted one of the guy’s names because he has a very unique screen name. 3D37B513-22F7-4CA6-AAE5-25ECDF7DDAA5.jpeg
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I gotta say, I really love that nothing about how my life works changes no matter how much you don’t believe me. :)
 
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Laugh out loud at whatever you like. We all deserve laughter in our lives!! I’m glad you got a good chuckle. Does something not exist because you think it laughable? I’m pretty sure the answer to that is no.

By the way, not everyone knows that gay men are ‘very picky.’ That’s just a negative stereotype that sometimes grows into a prejudice. I Could only speculate as to why you have embraced this notion, but I’m guessing that it provides some measure of cold comfort. Have you ever consider that this type of thinking is more of a limitation than anything else?

Just to be clear, because I think it’s important, I never said that looks or pictures don’t matter - just that personality matters, too and, sometimes, might even be more important.

My experience is that my personality matters to many of the people who meet me and is certainly very important to me regarding the people I choose to meet.

I’ve attached two screenshots if chats with two guys who have hit me up in the past few days. I already have a date set up with one of them and enjoyed swell chats with them both. I think it’s pretty clear that my profile played a pretty big part. I redacted one of the guy’s names because he has a very unique screen name. View attachment 1170264 View attachment 1170265

I gotta say, I really love that nothing about how my life works changes no matter how much you don’t believe me. :)

Schulteraffe, although I've seen your pics that you have posted here on LPSG, I'm sure guys think you are a 10 in their eyes and that the men you hook up with are all 10's across the board. Thanks for the screenshots. It's obvious that your "online fuckable personality" is at it again.
 

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I’ll be honest I be skimmed the thread. If guys are looking for guys regardless of how the identify, they are going to pick the easiest way. Grindr is by far the easiest for me when I was single. If you’re open and honest on there then you can find a hookup in minutes. It depends on what they find easiest (and as some seem to think the ‘less gay’ way to find men to fuck)
 
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I've used DoubleList a couple more times and got good responses from a few guys. I met up w/ one and it was fun 4 sure... The "Coming Soon" sections are still "Coming Soon"
Lol you'll be cumming sooner if you answer a couple adds...
btw, I am no way a 9 or 10 either, I got a nice body 4 sure and a great cock... But not a 10 and if I go on a site like MenNation, I bet I get 100 looks and 20 emails in less than 48 hours.
I've done it on here too, but not in 48 hours more like a week... and I am not trying at all.
 
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I've used DoubleList a couple more times and got good responses from a few guys. I met up w/ one and it was fun 4 sure... The "Coming Soon" sections are still "Coming Soon"
Lol you'll be cumming sooner if you answer a couple adds...
btw, I am no way a 9 or 10 either, I got a nice body 4 sure and a great cock... But not a 10 and if I go on a site like MenNation, I bet I get 100 looks and 20 emails in less than 48 hours.
I've done it on here too, but not in 48 hours more like a week... and I am not trying at all.
Doublelist is a bust for me.... many times and no responses. I think I am too old for the site.
 

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Doublelist is a bust for me.... many times and no responses. I think I am too old for the site.
LOL.... I am pretty sure I might be older than you are my friend...
 
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