I read about all the guys that claim to be 8 x 6. That seems to be the ideal goal. (I think 6" and up girth is too thick) So, I got some card stock, a ruler, and some scotch tape, and made a "penis model". I made 3 models: 7 1/2 x 5 7 1/2 x 5.5 8 x 6. Wow, 8 x 6 is big. I could barley get my hand around that girth. Then I tried something "gay". I put my mouth on it to see how a chick could take it. Ouch. I would need a very special girl to accomadate this size. The point of this is to have to visual and tangible tool to help you realize your goals. No point in saying "I want to be 8 x 6" without know what that is. It helped me better define my goals. What do you guys think? Heck, for all the liars that claim to be 10" x 7. Make a model for that one.