How do girls take it in all the way? Cul-de-sac question too.

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I don't understand size queens. Even though I'm quite above average, most girls don't say the sex felt better because I was larger, but because I knew how to hit the right spots....
 

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Those pictures always make it look like the cervix is near the end of the vagina, but when a woman is aroused, the cul-de-sac (also called the Pouch of Douglas) lengthens and the posterior fornix isn't so close to the cervix with a penis inside her.

Someone once posted up photos of a penis inside the vagina (CT scans I think). Anyone have those links?
 

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Hasn't she complained or said, "Ouch!" before you've reached that far?

He's not long enough to actually reach a "stop" back there, but I can't imagine how much that would hurt me! OUCH!

They're saying ouch from the getgo...haha! No, I've never heard and ouch before I hit something.
 

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They're saying ouch from the getgo...haha! No, I've never heard and ouch before I hit something.

I bet they say ouch! :redface:

Maybe his penis isn't as sensitive as other men's penises. He really can't tell when he's going too deep, and it hurts me before he's put his cock all the way in even though he can push it all the way in to the hilt. To me it doesn't feel like he's "hit" anything, it just feels like a sharp pain that become more intense the faster or the harder he thrusts too deep. I've always thought it was a "stretched too far" pain, sort of like how your anal sphincter will hurt if you stretch it too far and it will definitely hurt if you stretch it too fast!

In the 6+ BJ thread lots of guys said that they couldn't stand feeling teeth during a BJ, which is going to happen with a woman's mouth when your cock is really wide, but TheBoyfriend insists that my back teeth have never hurt him even though he can feel them, so that also made me wonder if his penis just isn't as sensitive as other men's penises. He says it just feels good to him.

He's suggested buying some of those penetration inhibiting donuts to help with the depth issue. Anyone ever used those?
 
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There are a lot of variables involved with bottoming out.
I am close to 6' tall, not that height makes a difference, and, for various reasons, a guy with 7 could bottom as often as I fully accept a guy with 9+. Sometimes just thinking about a great lover makes my body prepare to open up for him, even if accommodating his length or girth usually involves a lot of foreplay. Other times, my mind and body prefer the buildup to penetration and attempts to circumvent the foreplay means I'm not as deep as when aroused beyond the point of good sense. Occasionally, where I am in my cycle can also be an issue.

There's no real rhyme or reason, but I know my body well enough to understand what we need to do for that extra bit of arousal. Or, can just enjoy him completely filling me up and working the cul-de-sac. Maybe just me, but even when there's some discomfort from the guy going deep, I still love the feeling and will keep riding/take it. :08:
interesting point of view, I am large, long and thick and I can tell that there are times the same girl can take me easier than other times, maybe what you said makes sense.
 

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Here you go Petite I found the page with the pictures

About.com: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596

Aw, thanks for finding those, but that's not the ones I was looking for. The prettiest ones are actually drawings, even though of them looks like a photo. Is it weird that they turned me on?

The photos I'm thinking of, there were two images, one showing a smaller man's penis inside a vagina, and I think it was going into the anterior fornix, and another one showing a longer penis inside a vagina and it was going into the cul-de-sac.
 
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interesting point of view, I am large, long and thick and I can tell that there are times the same girl can take me easier than other times, maybe what you said makes sense.

This is true for me, too. I never paid as much attention before I started visiting LPSG, but ever since I really started paying attention I've noticed that day-to-day how deep he can go without hurting me does change for absolutely no apparent reason. I do seem to be deeper on some days than on others and I don't know why.
 

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Well I tried! Let me know if you find them petite, I love to draw and I'm already staring at some of the pictures on here and creating. Not coping anyone of course just some of the lines are beautiful. (not talking about the penis's I referring to some of the body shots)
 

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About how far is the cul de sac when a female is aroused, about how far is the cervix?

I would say 5 for the cervix?

But i'm seeing girls take 8, 9 inchers in pornos with a straight look on there face. How the FUCK does that happen?
Thing is, the cervix moves around as well. Therefore, it could be six inches up one day and four or lower the next. Never heard of this until I started checking cervical mucus as an added measure of birth control, just one of those strange, but true female factoids.

interesting point of view, I am large, long and thick and I can tell that there are times the same girl can take me easier than other times, maybe what you said makes sense.
If you know the women really well, I would recommend trying to go deepest when she's ovulating/fertile period. I, for lack of a better term, crave and can accept deep penetration from then through the first day of my period.

I'm gonna be honest and say I got excited while reading this.
:wink:
 
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Have to say...I love, love, love it when my guy hits my "cul de sac" although we call it the backstop. It can hit it at will. Mmmmmmmmm.
 

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Have to say...I love, love, love it when my guy hits my "cul de sac" although we call it the backstop. It can hit it at will. Mmmmmmmmm.

You mean "hit the posterior fornix" which is at the end of the cul-de-sac, to which I have to say, "OUCH!"

BTW, found this entertaining 2-year study on different sexual positions and stimulation of various parts of the vagina, including the posterior fornix.

Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) of Sexual Intercourse: Second Experience in Missionary Position and Initial Experience in Posterior Position
 
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OK, so maybe you fine women can correct information an old faggot/bi-sexual/faggot regarding something I probably have incorrect.

I've got an odd penis. Instead of a mushroom head I've got something similar in size and shape to a large Granny Smith apple. It's big. My shaft is unusually long (trust me, it's side show long) and sort of flattens and becomes wider when I have a major erection. More than once I've had a prospective partner say, "What am I supposed to do with that? Burp it?" Yeah, real funny. Great turn on.

My girl friend (and still good friend) from the time we were hippies in San Francisco always semi teased that she needed an epidural and an episiotomy for me to get just the head of my penis inside her. And she wasn't exactly tight. On those occasions she was swollen, wet and eagerly receptive, I always felt the sensation of pushing and stretching open a muscular ring just inside her inner labias. She did a lot of teeth clenching and heavy breathing until I finally entered her. It was like passing what felt like a loose (but still tight) sphincter muscle until things were a bit easier, but I've never been able to get more than four inches inside a woman without her saying, "Whoa, please stop."

My college girlfriend and I probably had semi successful intercourse two and a half times with each other. But it wasn't all bad. I enjoyed going down on her and working her into a frenzy according to her instructions, getting three fingers up inside her hoping to find the "mystical" G spot and nibbling on her clitoris at the same time. She liked to enjoy as many orgasms as possible and I'm fairly certain I followed her instructions on how to get her off with great success many times. She was also good at frottage, just pressing her genitals against my erection and leisurely sliding herself up and down against the head and shaft of my penis. When we included another male or the occasional couple, she never had a problem with the other guy having 7, 8, 9, 10+ inches and a normal big glans.

So, was it (and is it) my imagination that my dear old squeeze -- and women in general -- have a sphincter-like limit to the circumference of what you can take? Even older women who have had children tell me to "Stop, please." After all, 9 pound newborns have been popping out of vaginas 24/7 since women started having babies. Would stretching exercises have been of any benefit? Isn't it possible for most women to engulf a fist at the entrance of their vaginas with patience and practice?

My old girl friend still insists that vaginas are much better at accommodating a penis than the rectum. However, with most gay men I don't often have a problem. Maybe it's just psychological?

Seriously, I've had poor success engaging in intercourse with the fairer sex, although many (most) at least have wanted to "try it" with me before saying "Sorry about that. It isn't comfortable." or "Please, stop."

Any thoughts on this and then I'll be worried about "bottoming out"; although most women have told me they've never had that particular problem.

A still somewhat innocent and naive Midlifebear would like to know.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Midlifebear,

I have also noticed the "sphincter-like" muscle near the opening of the vagina, especially when I am masturbating and I orgasm. During orgasm it's spasms can be quite intense and the muscles squeeze tighter than the rest of my vagina. I don't know if it's an inhibiting factor.

TheBoyfriend and I have just begun practicing fisting in an effort to stretch me out, but we haven't gotten very far yet. I don't know if it's possible for a woman to engulf a fist at the entrance to her vagina. I'd be interested to know if anyone knows the answer to that!

Regarding childbirth, most women actually tear during vaginal delivery, which is the reason why the doctor makes a cut to help the baby exit the vagina, since tearing upward can be much more damaging than a cut where there are fewer functional nerves. Childbirth can also cause permanent nerve damage that affects a woman's ability to control her anal sphincter and it can cause permanent urinary incontinence. Some women also lose sensation in their labia, clitoris, and vagina because of nerve damage from the crushing and shearing forces from the baby's head forcing the pelvic bone open and the tissues crushed in between, as well as the stretching of the pudendal nerves. Before modern c-sections, women who suffered from cephalopelvic disproportion died during childbirth, which is the medical term for "the baby doesn't fit down the vaginal canal." Just because childbirth is natural, doesn't mean that it isn't damaging and dangerous.
 
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Midlifebear,

I have also noticed the "sphincter-like" muscle near the opening of the vagina, especially when I am masturbating and I orgasm. During orgasm it's spasms can be quite intense and the muscles squeeze tighter than the rest of my vagina. I don't know if it's an inhibiting factor.

TheBoyfriend and I have just begun practicing fisting in an effort to stretch me out, but we haven't gotten very far yet. I don't know if it's possible for a woman to engulf a fist at the entrance to her vagina. I'd be interested to know if anyone knows the answer to that!

Regarding childbirth, most women actually tear during vaginal delivery, which is the reason why the doctor makes a cut to help the baby exit the vagina, since tearing upward can be much more damaging than a cut where there are fewer functional nerves. Childbirth can also cause permanent nerve damage that affects a woman's ability to control her anal sphincter and it can cause permanent urinary incontinence. Some women also lose sensation in their labia, clitoris, and vagina because of nerve damage from the crushing and shearing forces from the baby's head forcing the pelvic bone open and the tissues crushed in between, as well as the stretching of the pudendal nerves. Before modern c-sections, women who suffered from cephalopelvic disproportion died during childbirth, which is the medical term for "the baby doesn't fit down the vaginal canal." Just because childbirth is natural, doesn't mean that it isn't damaging and dangerous.

In response to you and Midlife Bear. We all have that tight ring. And petite the fistforum.com is FULL of info on fisting and people that do it for the first time. You have to search through a lot of garbage though. There are video's on there as well. Its free to join just like here you just have to set up a user ID. A lot of the women on there have never had kids and are quite tiny.

Umm there is also a girl here Toypics - Anthro Dragon that is tiny and she takes this huge toy thats I think 10.75 inches around the head. You'd have to double check their site. Anyway she also has a vid on this site of trying to double fist. You can look at her and tell she is itty bitty. I think it is all a matter of stretching those muscles and doing it regularly. That being said while I find the idea of fisting very desirable I'm just not sure that I would ever do it or that I really want to work up to it. That's a LOT of stretch.

Here is another good video and it is full fist http://xhamster.com/movies/77850/fisting_my_best_friend_daughter_26_yo.html
 

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Yep, what she said about childbirth was pretty well on. I had 4 vaginal deliveries, ranging from 5lb 12 oz to 9 lb 3 oz, and had epsiotomies (they cut me) every time except the last delivery (7lb 10oz) when it tore down the old epsiotomy before they could cut me. And I'm large - don't know about the fist thing - I, too, have noticed that strong muscle near the vaginal entrance, which, interestingly enough, pushes the penis out during penetration if I'm orgasming, so the man has to work to keep it pushed in - I have a feeling he feels the contractions, a squeeze, though, which may feel pretty good.

Childbirth is wonderful AND painful, but fortunately, we soon forget the pain or babies wouldn't get born.

Think I'll pass on fisting - I'm pretty big already; don't want to stretch more.
 
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