How do we explain this?

[slurper_la]

Results are coming in and it's all so very clear now:

The Donald won big time in rural, yahoo regions, this we know but here's the clincher: he won 76% of hick counties that have a Cracker Barrel store (and 22% of counties that have Whole Foods stores.)

 

[Jjz1109]

Results are coming in and it's all so very clear now:

The Donald won big time in rural, yahoo regions, this we know but here's the clincher: he won 76% of hick counties that have a Cracker Barrel store (and 22% of counties that have Whole Foods stores.)

Nice. Classy.

How about the fact that there is a whole population in between the east coast and the left coast that was ignored and taken for granted by Hillary, the elitist media, and late night hosts (and, I might add, people like slurper who profess to be the protector of the little guy, yet are quick to dismiss any acknowledgement of middle America being able to make its own decision, and swing the vote on this election). Maybe this population felt it hasn't been represented in the last two elections. Maybe this population is tired of the polished politicians who will flip flop to garner votes (she was against gay marriage, before she was for it).

America is not a country comprised soley of east / west coast, liberal, gay, self absorbed, (fill in the blank) whiners who think they know what's best for everyone. This is their wake up call.

 

[b.c.]

Good luck explaining it to children, or people in more civil countries. I'm so depressed, but, for one thing, my lack of faith in Polls has been proven true, (to myself)... For weeks, if not months, I felt that the Polls were way off, because I listen to the people around me, at work, while shopping, on the bus, aside from friends and family... People, not Polls, vote.

A/B

I agree A.B. Like I've been saying for months, assuming one "has it in the bag" does nothing be give people a false sense of confidence and causes them to relax their guard. The polls did us a disservice (those who fell for them. I NEVER did).

This evening's news spoke of low voter turnout in some key states among blacks and Latino voters. Sorry, but I find that incredulously IRRESPONSIBLE.

 

[b.c.]

Really then why did Donald win? Because you are right just not the way you meant to be. Trump loves America. You may or may not I don't personally care.

Trump so loves America that he conducted a campaign of divisive rhetoric, bigotry, and emboldened those whose agenda is that of hate and prejudice??

Riiiiiiiiiight.

 

[b.c.]

The bigger lesson is probably that for all the talk about racism in the electorate, the bigger issue that was flipping states from blue to red was trade (particularly concern, even within traditionally Democratic unions, that current trade arrangements are cutting too much into manufacturing and such. Trump's statements on trade are a far step beyond what past Republican candidates were saying and it had enough appeal in the rust belt to flip a lot of states by 1% margins.

Clinton has the popular vote, and did better than Obama did in 2012 in some states like Texas (she got about 500k more votes than Obama did here, where Trump only got 150k more than Romney). Early voting was way up here, which led to a 5% increase in voter turnout overall and only casts more light on those states which are trying to cut back early voting (looking at you, North Carolina).

So anyways just tell your kids that people voting worry about their job prospects. Mr Jones is being overly dramatic.

Mr. Jones was reflecting the real emotions and sentiment MANY, who've listened to Trump's litany of hate, watched what it has inspired, and who have real concerns about the future.

HARDLY "overly dramatic" bud.

 

[deleted15807]

Nice. Classy.

How about the fact that there is a whole population in between the east coast and the left coast that was ignored and taken for granted by Hillary, the elitist media, and late night hosts (and, I might add, people like slurper who profess to be the protector of the little guy, yet are quick to dismiss any acknowledgement of middle America being able to make its own decision, and swing the vote on this election). Maybe this population felt it hasn't been represented in the last two elections. Maybe this population is tired of the polished politicians who will flip flop to garner votes (she was against gay marriage, before she was for it).

America is not a country comprised soley of east / west coast, liberal, gay, self absorbed, (fill in the blank) whiners who think they know what's best for everyone. This is their wake up call.

You SURELY aren't talking about someone flip-flopping on issues with Donald Trump as president.

A Full List of Donald Trump's Rapidly Changing Policy Positions

Guaranteed next year or two years down the road the same yahoos will still be angry because Trump didn't lift their miserable xenophobic lives out of the Cracker Barrel buffet line. Republicans control everything. Everything. Yet like the idiots they are they keep trying the same thing over and over. 30 years of conservatism and what do they have? Stagnant wages, outsourced jobs, drug use at epidemic levels, lowered life expectancy. But republican donor class is doing quite well thank you. Very well in fact. American democracy is dead. It's a plutocracy now.

The Republican Conservative machinery exists to do two things:

1. Win elections by any means possible (fake scandals, FBI investigations, Congressional hearings, the Southern Strategy, you name it)
2. Then to immediately get down to business screwing the middle class and rewarding the donor class.

 

[Boobalaa]

BLOWBACK

 

[slurper_la]

Everyone Is Sharing Michael Moore's 5-Point 'Morning After To-Do List'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-after-to-do-list_us_5823ab47e4b0aac62489134f

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

@ripsrips - "95,000,000 people out of the workforce"... Where the hell did you come up with this fright-tactic number? Does that include babies, school-age children, college students, the retired, diabled and elderly?... If so, how bogus can you get? Grow up!

A/B

Child workers will make AmeriKKKa great again

 

[breeze]

Its the labor participation rate or the LPR which is sometimes mentioned. And i think one big mystery.

The rough numbers are that they are 220 million people between 18-64 here. Generally speaking about 110-120M are employed at any one time. So what about the missing 100 million who aren't on any
payrolls. { a few are students/housewives but not 100 million } And 10 million or so are part time
workers etc.

No one is saying 50 or 95 million people are unemployed or wants to say it or knows. But the rural areas are where trump won and its not wall street in the midwest or south. I don't know what it is and
i'm not planning a trip soon to find out. But i'm guessing there are a lot of people in rural america
and they are being left behind.

 

[deleted15807]

Dear Fellow White Women: We F**ked This Up

 

[Boobalaa]

Dear Fellow White Women: We F**ked This Up

Where is Gloria Allred and her posse now?
What happened with all of those victims?
Does the MSM deem them un-newsworthy NOW?

 

[slurper_la]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=17650

 

[slurper_la]

.
Hillary's missteps:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign.html?rref=collection/byline/amy-chozick&action=click&contentCollection=undefined&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection&_r=0

.

 

[Boobalaa]

https://www.wired.com/2016/11/critical-role-self-care-handling-post-election-stress/

 

[ActionBuddy]

There'll need to be some dissection of voter turnout after this.

Wisconsin spent a lot of time in court over legislative attacks on ease of voting. Dems won initially, but Republicans won on appeal.

TX had a voter turnout increase of about 750,000 this year. Wisconsin, on the other hand, lost 250,000 voters between 2012 and 2016.

It's hard to see it right on election night, but fucking with voter restrictions definitely does have impacts as well. I'm not strictly talking about ID's here. I'm talking about cutting back early voting windows, closing polling locations in democratic areas, etc. That's all GOP handiwork though, not Trump (its maneuvering on the part of the Republican establishment).

I blame Wisconsin!

 

[ActionBuddy]

It will most likely be much higher count than that. I voted on Monday morning, and yet my vote has still not been counted, nor even tracked as received!

Finally, my ballot was "approved" and counted, late in the afternoon, on Thursday, the 10th!... Not that you care, but, I do... As pissed off as I am about the delay, at least I live in a state where we can actually track the progress of our ballots and find out if it was received, approved, and counted. (By "approved", I refer to the fact that your signature on your ballot has to match your signature when you registered to vote. People forget to sign their ballot sometimes, but, also, as people age, their signature changes, so, that's an easy way for an election worker/wonk to toss out your vote... Yep, shit like that happens.)

@ripsrips - "95,000,000 people out of the workforce"... Where the hell did you come up with this fright-tactic number? Does that include babies, school-age children, college students, the retired, diabled and elderly?... If so, how bogus can you get? Grow up!

Once again, I must apologize for a typo here. But, obviously, I meant "disabled" and not "diabled"... Ugh!

A/B

 

[Boobalaa]

Get rid of the electoral college
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

Everyone Is Sharing Michael Moore's 5-Point 'Morning After To-Do List'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-after-to-do-list_us_5823ab47e4b0aac62489134f

Moore's reaction was kind of childish. He insist in selling the idea that basicaly americans voted for the most right wing candidate ever because the left wing candidate wasn't sufficiently leftist.

 

[Boobalaa]

The Stark Contrast Between GOP’s Self-Criticism in 2012 and Democrats’ Blame-Everyone-Else Posture Now​