How do you conservatives feel about this?

Panda2007

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I'm a conservative, sort of. ;) Anyway, Rick Santorum is an idiot. We need politicians that will respect our right to make our own choices in life. There are far too many politicians on both sides of the political spectrum that want to decide for us what we can and cannot do.
 

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I must disagree. The fact that men do not get pregnant doesn't mean they are not impacted by abortion. Millions of men have wanted to keep their children but had no power to try to do so if the mother didn't share that desire. Millions more have been the ones wanting abortions to take place, but been bound by law to pay child support if the mother wanted to keep the baby. The notion that men should mind their own business because abortion has nothing to do with them is a naive one.
I posted about a proposed revision of law to take such things into account, and was asked why I hated women so much. Apparently people thought that anything which would give men any say at all (in the case I gave, allowing men to stop an abortion only if no health complications were present, with the understanding he would assume full responsibility and care of the child) would lead to mass suicides among women, who would be too distraught to deal with childbirth. Made me wonder why they thought those suicides didn't occur in droves prior to Roe vs Wade.
Yadda yadda yadda...

More freedom and less government achieved by more legislation that resricts free choice.

Next you guys will want an amendment resticting marriage benefits based on sexual preferences.

And mandating unneeded ultrasounds to run up healthcare costs...

If you dont like abortion, then opt out of sex with women.
I'm about as liberal as they come on a great many issues, but I agree with Traviis here. First off, the argument works both ways, if women don't want to get pregnant, they can opt out of sex with men.

Second, I feel that giving the woman 100% unfettered choice over abortion is a mistake. The reasons why women have the choice are because of the ways it can materially affect them. What if there is a danger to her health from the pregnancy? What if it is rape or incest? What if the father leaves and she doesn't want to take up the burden alone? She has the choice because of said possibilities. But I have to ask, what if none of the above apply?

One of the reasons why we have laws restricting and defining consent to sex is because we want to make sure that people are cognizant of what they are getting into, and they are willing participants? There are many consequences and complications that can occur from sexual relationships, and they want to make sure those who choose to have sex can handle them. Why then, does one gender get a free pass out of the most common consequence? The way the law is set up is inherently unfair, making it so the balance of power in the relationship is not truly equal.

In light of the sweater vests alone...I can't imagine there's much of anything hardcore in that household.
:lmao:
 

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In light of the sweater vests alone...I can't imagine there's much of anything hardcore in that household.

Heartily agreed and then some: he's the least sexualized politician in my adulthood. It's not just his innate unattractiveness (which is mightily evident), but his droning, anti-sex message that he pulls off in very nearly every speech/policy position.

The fact that he's considered a genuine contender for the GOP nomination speaks volumes as to how far conservatism/Republicanism has, quite literally, been driven off the rails. Presuming (easy to do, actually) that Romney is the pick, I can easily see him selecting Santorum as a VP, if only to reassure the base, who distrusts Romney on very nearly everything.

Where is the real "ah, hell no" within the socially conservative/Teabagger base at the thought of Mittens actually being on the top of their November ticket? Aside from their disdain and distrust of a Mormon former Massachusetts governor, I'm really not reading much (if anything) negative regarding such an extraordinary candidate (relative to their innate prejudices and inclinations).

And I do follow the conservative blogsphere, if only to be informed. Cocoons are not by bag.
 
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To get back on topic.... It wouldn't even make it to the Hopper! How are they gonna fund it?? They can't even win the war on drugs.. How are they gonna even start on a war on porn??? Ban the Internet?? I laugh at the prospect. Maybe Ms. Santorum should move to North Korea to see how his Ideology works! Nazi ass wannabe!!
 

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In light of the sweater vests alone...I can't imagine there's much of anything hardcore in that household.
Yes. A person's clothes are almost always a great way to make a judgment about them and their lives. Sweater vests. Hoodies.
 

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Yes. A person's clothes are almost always a great way to make a judgment about them and their lives. Sweater vests. Hoodies.

The difference is I made an obviously sarcastic joke about the sweater-wearer, and the hoodie wearer got shot and killed while walking home with his candy.