How Do You Feel About Drug Use?

How Do You Feel About Drug Use?

  • I smoke marijuana

    Votes: 51 50.0%
  • I refuse to smoke marijuana

    Votes: 34 33.3%
  • I would not be involved with a weed smoker

    Votes: 26 25.5%
  • I use cocaine

    Votes: 8 7.8%
  • I refuse to use cocaine

    Votes: 48 47.1%
  • I would not be involved with a cocaine user

    Votes: 56 54.9%
  • I use prescription drugs

    Votes: 25 24.5%
  • I refuse to use prescription drugs

    Votes: 24 23.5%
  • I would not be involved with a prescription drug user

    Votes: 30 29.4%
  • I use hallucinogens

    Votes: 15 14.7%
  • I refuse to use hallucinogens

    Votes: 42 41.2%
  • I would not be involved with a hallucinogen user

    Votes: 43 42.2%
  • I use opiates

    Votes: 6 5.9%
  • I refuse to use opiates

    Votes: 47 46.1%
  • I would not be involved with an opiate user

    Votes: 54 52.9%
  • I use synthetic drugs

    Votes: 9 8.8%
  • I refuse to use synthetic drugs

    Votes: 43 42.2%
  • I would not be involved with a synthetic drug user

    Votes: 50 49.0%
  • I drink alcohol

    Votes: 67 65.7%
  • I refuse to drink alcohol

    Votes: 11 10.8%
  • I would not be involved with an alcohol user

    Votes: 7 6.9%

  • Total voters
    102
  • Poll closed .

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I am glad to see that you guys are open minded. I know what too many people who think that all drug users are terrible people.

I deplore prohibitionism on principle, and I've often said that the criminalization of drug use (hypocritically and selectively excluding alcohol and nicotine) will eventually be seen as a decades-long folly that destroyed the lives of millions of Americans much more effectively than whatever issues and troubles their drug use might have brought them.

The answer is treatment, not incarceration. The War On Drugs is an expensive and ultimately futile attempt to control certain demographics more than others, with the majority of the burden falling on African Americans. It has facilitated the increase in police overreach to a degree that would have shocked and dismayed the great minds who founded the US. Zero tolerance, mandatory sentencing and "three-strikes" laws have diminished the judiciary and they will hopefully eventually be repealed, but let's not anyone hold their breaths in anticipation :mad:

I do accept and tolerate the use of recreational illicit drugs in my sex partners: for all their dramas, tweakers do make insanely good fucks, but couldn't accept anything but a casual relationship with one. There's a difference between acceptance and encouragement, of course. I would never, ever procure anything illicit for anybody, I just am extremely tolerant of and judgement neutral of what they take to bring them to a place sexually that I'm at already without the drugs. And I do not encourage using meth at all, for anyone anywhere under any circumstance: I just don't discriminate against them when considering a potential sex partner/fuckbud.

I choose to play sober, except for a very occasional Marinol, which I guess requires a brief explanation. Marinol is not illicit, it's a prescription medication that is frequently prescribed to HIV/AIDS patients to boost appetites thereby reducing body and facial wasting. Unlike pot but much like hashish, it induces a "body buzz", not a "head buzz" though it is certainly psychoactive. I just doesn't make me feel "locked inside my head" and has never induced paranoia, as pot inevitably does with me. I have never been prescribed Marinol, though it's pretty common to find someone who has a bottle of it in his med box. I've had several fuckbuds offer me some, and I'll never refuse it: it enhances sensations and increases the full-body orgasms I experience while edging. I don't request it and have never purchased it.

Distinction also need to be made between the physical dependency of Opioids in chronic pain patients and addicts who misuse/overuse them in order to escape the challenges and dilemmas in their lives unrelated to chronic physical pain. I suffered a series of injuries that aggravated pre-existing arthritis in my cervical spine (neck) in 2001; I was bedridden for several months of 2002 and walked on a cane for months after that. The pain was so intense, it would wake me up in the middle of the night.

Under the care of a Pain Specialist (who was both a Neurologist and an Anesthesiologist), I went from low-dose oral Morphine through the ranks of progressively stronger pain medications before we decided together on the Duragesic patch (Fentanol). It was effective in pain relief but caused problems with my memory (at one point, I was so unclear as to my zip code that I carried a complete cheat-sheet in my wallet with my address and phone number) and had some troubling emotional side-effects. I was treated with Fentanol for over 18 months: when I switched insurance companies after moving to Florida, my new insurer would not cover it, so I stepped down over the course of a month in 2003, the last weekend of which was harrowing but necessary.

At no time did I get a buzz from those medications in any sense: though physically dependent, I was never psychologically addicted in the sense of my addiction to nicotine.

As my current health care has no provisions for pain management, I take much more Ibuprofen than I should, but I really don't have much choice. Though the pain levels I endured in 2001-03 have diminished, they are still present, especially when I first get out of bed. In times of particularly high stress or a bad flare-up of pain, I have a slight but obvious limp (though I got rid of that cane, finally and permanently, in 2004).

I briefly had private insurance again from 2007-09, and my doctor, horrified at the quantities of Ibuprofen I take, put me on Vicodin and a muscle relaxer. But because he was an Internist who specialized in treating folks with HIV, he was not allowed by the DEA to prescribe more than a certain quantity to me, which was insufficient to mask the pain to the degree that the Ibuprofen did, so I double-dosed. This resulted in two weeks of pain relief, a three- to four-day period of intense bounce-back pain, then a return to my "regular" pain levels (treated with Ibuprofen) until the scripts could be refilled.

I declined going to a Pain Specialist again because I did not want to repeat the anguish of stepping down and off of anything stronger like I did in 2003, and rightfully (it turned out) distrusted the permanence of my insurance status. I also could not afford the co-pays and transport to and from the required monthly appointments would have been dicey as I'm car-free and public transit here in FtL is infamously unreliable.

Chronic health conditions (in my case HIV, pain caused by arthritis, arterial damage caused by some of the meds I took to treat HIV from 96-2005, and a host of GI issues which can be treated but not "cured") require medications. Those in perfect health have the luxury of clucking and deploring them, but, in the gentlest possible way, I have to remind them that life has a funny way of interceding on principles, and serious, chronic medical conditions are almost universally a fact of life as one ages regardless of one's youthful concerns regarding choices in lifestyle, diet and exercise.
 

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My personal feelings on this are that drugs are a business. If you want to eliminate a business you either tax it or compete with it offering something better for a far lower price.

The current "war on drugs" is a farce.

We have prescription drugs being advertised on television that are horrific and can in fact cause death and we have condemnation of some idiot smoking a joint because that is bad. I am not pro-drug or pro the abuse of drugs, I am however pro common sense which is what we do not have and have not had for many years on this subject.

Right now here in New Mexico there are advertisements for class action lawsuits against the makers of Accutaine. Accutaine the drug given to hundreds of thousands of teenagers all over the world has been linked to incredible health problems many of which were fatal to people at very young ages. Hey, we gave the company how many years of outrageous profits before we let the trial lawyers try and make their millions out of these settlements.

The only thing that the current drug policies do is to shift the profits to the wealthiest scumbags which rarely get caught. This will not change as long as we have another group of the wealthiest scumbags running the show in government.

In the scum that deal recreational drugs, we have the laws of supply and demand. They know that a large percentage of what they try to bring in will be confiscated and that the guys bringing the stuff in will be casualties. To them this is no different than any agricultural business where a percentage of the crop is lost in the way to market. What they do to compensate is to raise the price of the smaller quantity to compensate for those inherent losses.

I don't have the answer as to what will work 100%, but interestingly enough every solution that gets tried seems to be designed or has results effecting pricing even on legitimate prescription drugs that we all use on a daily basis to try and maintain some quality in life.
 

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I think the war on drugs is a farce, especially with marijuana, so many potheads in jail on the public dole while they could be contributing by flipping burgers.

A friend of mine sweated out a very long two weeks on her new job earlier this year, while her two initial piss tests came back "diluted." Good thing she is a sixty year old lady or they probably would not have offered her a third. Good bye job. Unemployment in my county is revolving around 10 percent this year. "Never again," she says.
 

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Funny how most people refuse drug users but, consider alcohol OK. Alcohol causes more family breakups, and more failures and more misery than all the other drugs put together yet you would have an alcoholic.
 

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Funny how most people refuse drug users but, consider alcohol OK. Alcohol causes more family breakups, and more failures and more misery than all the other drugs put together yet you would have an alcoholic.
You won't hear any disagreement from me. Prohibition has already been tried. Don't really favor any kind of drug use and don't use alcohol, tobacco or other drugs myself. Don't really follow the argument of, "Well, if you get to have your drug of choice, I get to have mine too," but the prohibition of pot appears to have more social costs than the permitting of it does. Alcohol is probably $20 in social costs for every $1 spent on it, but prohibition apparently had more social costs than it alleviated. Most people do not know that Federal Income tax was enacted to make up for the 40% excise tax on alcohol that the Federal government lost upon enacting Prohibition.
 
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The War On Drugs is an expensive and ultimately futile attempt to control certain demographics more than others, with the majority of the burden falling on African Americans. It has facilitated the increase in police overreach to a degree that would have shocked and dismayed the great minds who founded the US. Zero tolerance, mandatory sentencing and "three-strikes" laws have diminished the judiciary and they will hopefully eventually be repealed, but let's not anyone hold their breaths in anticipation :mad:

I think locking up African Americans is the whole reason Nixon and his cronies started the war on drugs. They could not segregate them using Jim Crow laws anymore after the Civil rights act but they could effectively segregate a large percentage of the African American population by lockign them up on drug offenses and throwing away the key.

I know that a good number of the rich white people who live in my neighborhood use drugs and their kids smoke pot...but the cops never come up here into this neighborhood of million dollar plus homes to try and bust them. If they did the entire county government, and the Chief of Police would be looking for a new job because the people who live here are wealthy, politically connected, doctors, lawyers, engineers, CEOs, etc.

There is a total double standard when it comes to enforcement of drug laws in the USA.
 
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The synthetic drugs is a bullshit category, how the hell can you put ecstasy (one of the safest recreational illegal drugs according to recent studies) with crystal meth??!!

Btw, don't forget that currently 40,000 people die from the health effects of alcohol alone in the UK, and in the US 440,000 people die from smoking each year!!! Ecstasy kills a handful a year (usually when cut with something else or dehydration/overhydration) , and cannabis has never killed anyone from an overdose!
 

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I recently started a poll revolving around the smoking habits of voters and/or their partners. since i didnt specify what was being smoked i decided to follow it up with this poll which will be more extensive.

REFERENCE:
Opiates-heroin, oxycontin, percocet, vicodin, opium, etc.
Synthetic drugs-ecstasy, PCP, crystal meth
Prescription drugs-any prescription medication not used as directed
Hallucinogens-LSD, magic mushrooms, 5-MEO-DMT

And I assume you all know what cocaine, marijuana, and alcohol are

Love it !!!
 

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The thing about the war on drugs - how do you know when you've won?
 

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I vote NO to every drug use.
I love the sense of freedom and the drugs or alcohol or even ciggarets (why most people presists that nicotine isn't a drug) limits my freedom, my self awareness, my energy, my thoughts, my life and if at any point of my life have the need to commit suicide I will choose a quicker way to end my life, something more decent and maybe more heroic.


if you're not into drugs that's cool nothing wrong with that. however certain drugs will enhance your thoughts, energy and self awareness. the key is not to le anything take control over you. I think part of the allure of a some drugs that rope you walk.
 

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The synthetic drugs is a bullshit category, how the hell can you put ecstasy (one of the safest recreational illegal drugs according to recent studies) with crystal meth??!!

Btw, don't forget that currently 40,000 people die from the health effects of alcohol alone in the UK, and in the US 440,000 people die from smoking each year!!! Ecstasy kills a handful a year (usually when cut with something else or dehydration/overhydration) , and cannabis has never killed anyone from an overdose!


x is hardly safe.
 

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The synthetic drugs is a bullshit category, how the hell can you put ecstasy (one of the safest recreational illegal drugs according to recent studies) with crystal meth??!!

Btw, don't forget that currently 40,000 people die from the health effects of alcohol alone in the UK, and in the US 440,000 people die from smoking each year!!! Ecstasy kills a handful a year (usually when cut with something else or dehydration/overhydration) , and cannabis has never killed anyone from an overdose!

I've seen people VERY hungry after using an amount of Cannabis. 300 grams of cheese + 12 celsea buns and a slab of chocolate.
 

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This poll is closed and that's all very well. I think that there should have been a distinction in it between legal and illegal drugs. Yeah, yeah, that varies from nation to nation, as does what can be put in the 'prescription' category.

I am with Bbucko on wishing to see all substances legalized on principle. That would even the cultural 'playing field' and remove some of the economic exploitation of substances by criminals exclusively.

Moi I am dependent on certain prescriptions and non-prescription substances for my health and sanity. A big one is caffeine. For the purposes of ideal well-being it is just as iffy as anything else and does hamper one's in-dependence, just as does smoking or alcohol, also legal here.

Depending on any substance weakens a person and inclines them to anti-social behaviors, whether it is emotional abuse , theft or worse. One hopes that abusers will be shunned and thus the abuse become self-limiting.