How hard uncircumcision European defend their 'uncut custom' ?

[luckyp]

Millions of Muslims, especially in non-Arab countries are uncircumcised. Circumcision is not universal in Islam.

I guess it's just intellectually easier to ascribe the same behaviour, goals and beliefs to something like 1 billion people, when in reality they are actually as diverse a group as any.

 

[Mekky]

Facts on european muslims :

Islam is present in Europe since nearly its beginning. However, over generations, an european islam was born in balkans and eastern europe, far from the one of saudi arabia. We can say the official birth was under Ottoman Empire with strong influence of byzantine heritage (Even if there was also an archaic european islam apparing in Iberia when the peninsula was under moorish rules).

European muslims are by majority uncircumcised. Russian, bosnian or albanian muslims are often uncircumcised. 70% of french muslims are uncircumcised and 60% even declare to believe is a god or spiritual force but don't practice islam.

European muslims well eat pork or drink alcohol. It may surprise you, but they are very liberals. You must visit Istanbul to understand that alcohol is absolutely not prohibed.

European muslims promote women in society. You must watch closely turkish, azeri, russian or albanian muslim women to understand that they will not keep their tongue in their mouth. Such wave of muslim feminism did hit north africa very hard in recent years, the king of morocco needed to establish laws and reform the constitution to put women at equal level that men, with spain and portugal now allowing gay marriage, it did put even more pressure on moroccan individual liberties, women included. That's a major difference between "hard islam" coming from arabian peninsula and soft one elsewhere, Indonesia for example already did have a woman for president.

About other comments "europe dinosaurs, bad economy, etc", it's simply come from small brains and tihuaca have the smallest one.

 

[GogMegog]

If you just think about the reason of removal of foreskin, it is just only for health purpose. A penis with foreskin is more difficult or little to remain clean then a cut one.

If we just assume that people with uncut penis get finished in this world, never bad will happen. It don't impose any effect on the faith of the person, whether he cut it or not.

Many babies have penis already without foreskin by birth, and it is normal.

The female vaginal rejuvenation have a procedure in which the grown or large cult is removed/reduced to make the sexual intercourse easier. Also with larger outer labia cost the quick movements etc in women. So just compare this situation with the men foreskin.

There is nothing good with uncut foreskin and nothing bad with the cuttin one. So this issue has no direct relation with the religion or faith of the person having it or without it.

 

[eurotop40]

This is plain stupid.

If you just think about the reason of removal of foreskin, it is just only for health purpose. A penis with foreskin is more difficult or little to remain clean then a cut one.

If we just assume that people with uncut penis get finished in this world, never bad will happen. It don't impose any effect on the faith of the person, whether he cut it or not.

Many babies have penis already without foreskin by birth, and it is normal.

The female vaginal rejuvenation have a procedure in which the grown or large cult is removed/reduced to make the sexual intercourse easier. Also with larger outer labia cost the quick movements etc in women. So just compare this situation with the men foreskin.

There is nothing good with uncut foreskin and nothing bad with the cuttin one. So this issue has no direct relation with the religion or faith of the person having it or without it.

 

[JTalbain]

This is plain stupid.

Seconded.

 

[Sapien]

This is plain stupid.

Thirds

 

[Sergeant_Torpedo]

Ha! It isn't a custom, its natural, like we don't puk-puk (skin scarification) our infants as in certain African communities. Middle class Americans picked up the fashion imported into the US in the 1890s by poor immigrant German doctors. You know once you have a little extra money you want all that it can buy for your kids: unecessary tonsilectomies, nose jobs, bleached teeth.

 

[D_Myer_Dogasflees]

The largest concentrations of uncut cocks in the world are in Asia: China and India. They will endure whatever happens in Europe.

I'm not gonna touch your "dinosaur" hypothesis with a ten-foot pole, however.

Yah, Islam is not allowed in China, heavily regulated. woot!

China Restricts Islam - IslamOnline.net - News

bt yes, i'd miss the foreskin, it truly is a tragedy and i don't think that your common person would see it that way, we don't know what we are losing.
I donn't think that the OP was very creative and i don't think that he may hve addressed the 'wives' issue correctly, however i can't agree more that we are not giving enough respect to the things we live for.

 

[Drifterwood]

"Foreskin and the Apocalypse" A new best seller.

Greek speakers will get the joke.

 

[gaygent]

Thirded - There is no argument for a boy or man to be circumcised other than for religeous or serious medical reasons. A cut penis can smell just as badly as an uncut one if good hygiene standards are not applied.

 

[tiahuaca]

Millions of Muslims, especially in non-Arab countries are uncircumcised. Circumcision is not universal in Islam.

I guess it's just intellectually easier to ascribe the same behaviour, goals and beliefs to something like 1 billion people, when in reality they are actually as diverse a group as any.

ha..ha..ha ..I laugh out loud .....how ignorant are you, guy ....

Thera are : almost 100 % of muslim Turkish are circumcised
almost 100 % of muslim Pakistani are circumcised
almost 100 % of muslim Bangladesh are circumcised
almost 100 % of muslim Indonesian are circumcised
almost 100 % of muslim Malaysian are circumcised
almost 100 % of muslim Egyptian are circumcised
almost 100 % of muslim Algerian are circumcised ....etc.

Maybe only muslim Ismaili, and some Druze are uncut (it is only about 1% of muslims population)
Please don't talk anything about what you do not know ....

Facts on european muslims :
Islam is present in Europe since nearly its beginning. However, over generations, an european islam was born in balkans and eastern europe, far from the one of saudi arabia. We can say the official birth was under Ottoman Empire with strong influence of byzantine heritage (Even if there was also an archaic european islam apparing in Iberia when the peninsula was under moorish rules)................

Why European Union refuse Turkey application for membership ?
Because European leaders afraid, European will be Islamized, after integration with Turkey.

.....................European muslims are by majority uncircumcised. Russian, bosnian or albanian muslims are often uncircumcised. 70% of french muslims are uncircumcised and 60% even declare to believe is a god or spiritual force but don't practice islam. ...............

During Soviet Union Communist administration, some East European muslims afraid, hide their identity and do not practice circumcision, but the majority of them still practice it.
Karimov --> from Karim
Ibrahimovic --> from Ibrahim ...etc
It is an evidence that even under-pressure, Muslim do not left their root-culture, like they do not left their circumcision tradition.

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European muslims well eat pork or drink alcohol. It may surprise you, but they are very liberals. You must visit Istanbul to understand that alcohol is absolutely not prohibed. .......

Turkey is a secular country, even Islamic party are the rulling party, and Islamic power become grow, bigger and bigger now.
Maybe some muslim Turkishs eat pork and drink alcohol, but they still practice circumcision, almost 100% of them are cut.

Again.....Why European Union refuse Turkey application for membership ?
Because European leaders afraid, European will be Islamized, after integration with Turkey.

.....................About other comments "europe dinosaurs, bad economy, etc", it's simply come from small brains and tihuaca have the smallest one.

I don't know how small is my brain, but my IQ is about 140, and I've passed my Master degree.

 

[mandoman]

That doesn't mean you aren't stupid.
What you say makes no sense.
What is your obsession that circumcision is the right thing for everybody?

 

[Tintin1]

Ideas like yours is similar to the racial politics of the NSDAP!! Millions of people was killed in KZ camps because of brainwashing like that, IDIOT!

 

[tiahuaca]

Ideas like yours is similar to the racial politics of the NSDAP!! Millions of people was killed in KZ camps because of brainwashing like that, IDIOT!

I don't know why some westerners/European always talk about racialism ?
There are many type of discriminations, not only racialism.
When Muslims (in Muslim countries) practice discrimination to Christians/Hindus/Buddhism, you always say it is racialism. How idiot is It.

In almost of all 57 muslim countries in the world they practice RELIGION DISCRIMINATION, but the Europeans only shut their mouths, only quiet, because it is not Racialism.
You must to know that Religion based Terrorism are more dangerous than Racial/Nationalism based Terrorism.
In the same way, Religion discrimination are more dangerous than racialism or apartheid.
And the idiot Europeans (not all Europeans) never know that.

 

[mandoman]

tiahuaca, you are a bigot. who in here takes you seriously?