How is it to be not 100% Straight as a Man?

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Data IS science or rather results in scientific conclusions about populations when the same experiments give the same results over and over and over again.

Same sex marriage is rare only because it's been illegal for so long.

Remember that surveys of personal opinions are far different from measuring actual sexual physiological response to an image.

Again one can have an opinion about their blood pressure which is meaningless until it's actually measured.

There is a difference between the physiology of sexual attraction and social/cultural conventions about sex and the popular opinions to which they give rise.
Your self-delusion is only exceeded by your peevish incidence and misunderstanding of science.
 

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You misunderstand me. I'm not saying the OP isn't 100% straight. She may well be. I'm relating what the science says about the chance that anyone is 100% straight or gay: it's one in ten. We have ongoing data from these lab studies for over thirty years and the numbers haven't changed.


Data is not "science;" your contention is not "science;" "science" is never settled; and, "science" is not truth no matter your implication to the contrary. With that said, let's look at some more data. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 98.5% of couple households (married and unmarried) in the U.S. are opposite-sex and only 1.5% are same-sex. According to a summary of two studies reported by Psychology Today, 95% of men only have sex with women, which declines to 91% if given the opportunity to choose “occasionally with men.” Likewise, 83% of straight women exclusively have had sex with men. No matter how you look at it, your claim that (only) one in ten men are straight defies history, casual observation and abundant surveys and studies. The remarkable item that deserves study is why so many in the minority deny their lying eyes, shake their fists at the data, and suspend their disbelief, all in a wishful attempt to convince themselves, or others, about that which is patently false.
95% of men are Kinsey 0 straight? Way too high number.
 

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You misunderstand me. I'm not saying the OP isn't 100% straight. She may well be. I'm relating what the science says about the chance that anyone is 100% straight or gay: it's one in ten. We have ongoing data from these lab studies for over thirty years and the numbers haven't changed.


Data is not "science;" your contention is not "science;" "science" is never settled; and, "science" is not truth no matter your implication to the contrary. With that said, let's look at some more data. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 98.5% of couple households (married and unmarried) in the U.S. are opposite-sex and only 1.5% are same-sex. According to a summary of two studies reported by Psychology Today, 95% of men only have sex with women, which declines to 91% if given the opportunity to choose “occasionally with men.” Likewise, 83% of straight women exclusively have had sex with men. No matter how you look at it, your claim that (only) one in ten men are straight defies history, casual observation and abundant surveys and studies. The remarkable item that deserves study is why so many in the minority deny their lying eyes, shake their fists at the data, and suspend their disbelief, all in a wishful attempt to convince themselves, or others, about that which is patently false.
Minority perhaps, and it may the city or suburb in which I live, but there seem to be a hell of a lot of straight-ish hetero-flexible chaos out there. Recent studies in both UK and IS show younger men are way more likely to self-report as hetero-flexible. I for get the actual finishing. I’ll look them up but it’s something like a third to a half in some studies. These are men who have grown up within more relaxed attitudes.
Self-reporting and occasional same-sex activity doesn’t necessarily match with “gay”. But it does point to a fluidity we haven’t admitted to in other generations.
 

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Minority perhaps, and it may the city or suburb in which I live, but there seem to be a hell of a lot of straight-ish hetero-flexible chaos out there. Recent studies in both UK and IS show younger men are way more likely to self-report as hetero-flexible. I for get the actual finishing. I’ll look them up but it’s something like a third to a half in some studies. These are men who have grown up within more relaxed attitudes.
Self-reporting and occasional same-sex activity doesn’t necessarily match with “gay”. But it does point to a fluidity we haven’t admitted to in other generations.
The energy and truculence of those insisting the world is fluid in their sexual preferences belies the fact that it is not. You may try to influence others by repeating what is patently false but you won't convert any and will alienate most.
 
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Thanks for all this explanation and science!
Still I think, I still wonder how it is the feeling for a man who was from, say birth 69% Straight and 31% Gay or whatever :kissing_heart:
 

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Thanks for all this explanation and science!
Still I think, I still wonder how it is the feeling for a man who was from, say birth 69% Straight and 31% Gay or whatever :kissing_heart:

You're welcome. :)

Couple things.

1. To answer your question my bisexuality feels normal. :cool:

2. I was raised (indoctrinated) straight and thought I was 100% straight until I crushed on a handful of guys in high school. Even then I dismissed it because I was so overwhelmingly attracted to women--dozens if not hundreds of crushes and dated only women. I didn't hook up with a guy until I was 22. That's when I fully accepted/learned I was bi.

3. I've dream journaled for over 40 years. My sex dreams run 90% straight 10% gay. When I first joined this site I listed my pref as 90/10 based on this--dreams over which I have no control. Later I changed it to 70/30 to reflect more accurately the number of partners I've had.

Had you asked me at 21 I would have said I was 100% straight from birth. For a short while there I thought I might be 100% gay because--like many who see the world in black and white I too thought I had to be one or the other even though it made no sense in my case.

I think it's important to remember that labels may be etched in stone but individuals are not. We are always learning, changing and growing. For myself it's best to keep and open mind and open heart. :heart:
 

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Thanks for all this explanation and science!
Still I think, I still wonder how it is the feeling for a man who was from, say birth 69% Straight and 31% Gay or whatever :kissing_heart:
I'll bet bet my wife would get you off more times in an hour than any man. I've seen 2 women tap out because they couldn't take anymore. Yet, she still also loves cock. Why should it be any different for men?
 
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I’m very much a straight male but have been in sessions with both it’s inevitable that a threesome leads to some male interaction for me it made me want to explore further
So it is more, in this moment You are horny and go with it. Seems logical
 
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You're welcome. :)

Couple things.

1. To answer your question my bisexuality feels normal. :cool:

2. I was raised (indoctrinated) straight and thought I was 100% straight until I crushed on a handful of guys in high school. Even then I dismissed it because I was so overwhelmingly attracted to women--dozens if not hundreds of crushes and dated only women. I didn't hook up with a guy until I was 22. That's when I fully accepted/learned I was bi.

3. I've dream journaled for over 40 years. My sex dreams run 90% straight 10% gay. When I first joined this site I listed my pref as 90/10 based on this--dreams over which I have no control. Later I changed it to 70/30 to reflect more accurately the number of partners I've had.

Had you asked me at 21 I would have said I was 100% straight from birth. For a short while there I thought I might be 100% gay because--like many who see the world in black and white I too thought I had to be one or the other even though it made no sense in my case.

I think it's important to remember that labels may be etched in stone but individuals are not. We are always learning, changing and growing. For myself it's best to keep and open mind and open heart. :heart:
Thank you again for your great honesty and explanation!

I think , you made me understand better why , there is the possibility to find out who you are or want to be. So maybe its not in the person. But about to be open or curious :heart:
 
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I'll bet bet my wife would get you off more times in an hour than any man. I've seen 2 women tap out because they couldn't take anymore. Yet, she still also loves cock. Why should it be any different for men?
No your wrong, your wife would not be allowed to touch me. Period!
I tried with a woman, I hated I vomit after i went under the shower after and scratched my skin away!
100% Straight. Period!

Because I think it is different
 
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"The more time I spend in bed with men, the less straight I get". GS_PL
So you already 100% Gay now? Hope your wife (if you have one) can have as many boyfriends as she wants
 

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So you already 100% Gay now? Hope your wife (if you have one) can have as many boyfriends as she wants
I made a lifestyle change almost 10 years ago, and am never intimate with women any longer, but since prior to that I was, my gay percentage (and something else, wink) keep rising.

My favorite sexual partners to have had from my own experience are bisexual.
 

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"The more time I spend in bed with men, the less straight I get". GS_PL
I have found to my surprise that i prefer fucking a pussy and all the tits and curves and beautiful feminine stuff is only equaled by being fucked by a man. Having a hot cock pound my P-spot is fabulous. So two fave things…. Love everything else too…..I’ll fuck and love that, I’ll suck and be sucked and i love a man’s body too…. butt those two (fucking pussy and being arse fucked by a man) are the stand outs in my mind. The thing is, MM sex is much easier to get and less involved - mutual, chill and relaxed, casual. MF sex is more emotionally complex, but very deep spiritually. So take your pick…. Drive-through at the in-and-out burger or a whole menu degustation at a Michelin restaurant. Both have their place. In a sense the MM sex is consistently good. I could almost see myself saying - yeah-nah… MM from now on, cuz it’s always fun And lighthearted. But I know I would miss the relationship with a woman. My wife is complex and in some ways has put me off other women…. It’s a major investment in time effort and pain…. But she’s also the one I have achieved so much with - wonderful kids and home and a long history. So i agree, I seem to get more gay every man I sleep with a man, but that seems in my mind like a hobby, a sport like golf, a pastime. Women - and one woman in particular, my wife, feels like a forever thing. Til death do us part may just be a real thing.
 
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I have found to my surprise that i prefer fucking a pussy and all the tits and curves and beautiful feminine stuff is only equaled by being fucked by a man. Having a hot cock pound my P-spot is fabulous. So two fave things…. Love everything else too…..I’ll fuck and love that, I’ll suck and be sucked and i love a man’s body too…. butt those two (fucking pussy and being arse fucked by a man) are the stand outs in my mind. The thing is, MM sex is much easier to get and less involved - mutual, chill and relaxed, casual. MF sex is more emotionally complex, but very deep spiritually. So take your pick…. Drive-through at the in-and-out burger or a whole menu degustation at a Michelin restaurant. Both have their place. In a sense the MM sex is consistently good. I could almost see myself saying - yeah-nah… MM from now on, cuz it’s always fun And lighthearted. But I know I would miss the relationship with a woman. My wife is complex and in some ways has put me off other women…. It’s a major investment in time effort and pain…. But she’s also the one I have achieved so much with - wonderful kids and home and a long history. So i agree, I seem to get more gay every man I sleep with a man, but that seems in my mind like a hobby, a sport like golf, a pastime. Women - and one woman in particular, my wife, feels like a forever thing. Til death do us part may just be a real thing.


Thank You from the bottom of my heart, to that wonderful explanation and answer!

I truly can see the points you mentioned and this thread makes a lot of sense to me.

I thank you too, that You tell also, yes men and women are different, not only from body, but also from the soul/heart but women are not only the BAD ones!
Until now, all I heard how great men are and felt any man here wants to shoot all women, for how we are.

Love this thread so much thank you!