How is Ron Paul "Loony" or "kooky"

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Have any idea how much more it will cost to incarcerate those ten kids and their mom when they start home invasion robberies and passing bad checks to eat?
it costs many, many times the amount to jail a criminal than to teach a child how not to be a violent thug.

What are you implying about people like her?
 

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Have any idea how much more it will cost to incarcerate those ten kids and their mom when they start home invasion robberies and passing bad checks to eat?
it costs many, many times the amount to jail a criminal than to teach a child how not to be a violent thug.

It costs less than a dollar for a bullet.

Just preserving this repugnant asininity for the record.
 

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So the answer to poverty and religous beliefs in not using contraceptives, is to shoot them?
Wtf if this world coming too?


The hate speech in this thread is truely sickening!
 
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So the answer to poverty and religous beliefs in not using contraceptives, is to shoot them?
Wtf if this world coming too?


The hate speech in this thread is truely sickening!

No, the answer to people we convict in a court of law to be unable to return to society is to shoot them.

I can guarantee if we started using firing squads again, not only would people volunteer to do it, they would bring their own weapon and bullets.
 

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Is that a problem? Sure.
As much of a problem as BofA and countless other corps not paying any taxes at all? No.

guillotines on wall street would solve billions of more problems than shooting the occasional habitual wellfare mom.
 

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The main problem I have with Ron Paul is similar to the problems I have with many running for election these days. Why do people campaign for the Presidency which is an executive position while describing the job to the general public as a legislative position.

In the long list of his vote history already posted there are things that could be viable, but, the greatest problem is that it is not the office of the President who can make those changes.

If his statements were, I would support "legislation x" (whatever his belief system is) if it were to come across my desk where I would have the power to sign it into law or to veto it, I would have far more respect. It would indicate his willingness to work with proposed legislation by those who have the power to propose and author new legislation in hopes of making a better future. I am not stating that I think that his marker list would make for a better future, but, if he said it in that manner it would at least prove that he as a candidate for President knew the actual power of his office.

The implication many think with many candidates spouting off outlandish ideology is that they are going to run over with a pen and throw out an "Executive Order" for these kinds of things.

Any Presidential Candidate no matter what the party would find themselves being investigated very quickly for "abuse of power" were this to be the case. It is also common for challenge of Executive Orders. Rarely are these overturned because they as a whole are politically as a general rule relatively innocuous and are done in such a manner as to play "politics". The ruling Party and their President signs an order with the other side knowing in advance that it is going to be done. This allows the opposition to "look good" while in fact it was something they did not want to "touch" because it was a "hot potato" politically. Reagan signed things that the Dems did not like as did both Bushes. Clinton signed things that the Republicans did not like by their doctrine as have other Democratic Presidents.

Where Ron Paul begins to make his thinking questionable is that he pushes concepts which he himself knows will never take place simply because there are too many who will not let him enact them. He wastes the time of the American People and tries to appeal to a very small group of people who agree with his ideology. While his concepts may sound like they have merit it ends there and everything after the concept is a waste of the readers or listeners time when it comes to actually making it happen.

To some degree 100% of all political candidates jump on the "I don't know what my job is" bandwagon. What they depend on is pulling the wool over the eyes of the voter and depending on the lack of knowledge that the average voter has with regards to the power of a given political office.
 

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In regards to the deficit, by raising it, we are just spending more money we do not have. Lets default and just start over. By raising the debt limit, we just continue to spend money on things we dont need.

There are people popping out more babies just because they get more money from the government. It is a sad thing to say, but quit handing them more money and maybe they will stop having kids...

Maybe they wouldn't have to have more kids if they had opportunities, or their parents had had opportunities...
 

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One extreme example is an exception, not the rule.

Even with that example children shouldn't be punished for the actions of their parents.
Children should be taken away from their mom and put into foster homes. She isnt fit to raise them and the father is in prison. Let her be the aunt instead of the direct mother, it lets her stay in their lives but prevents suffering. Having one kid is expensive enough, I cant even imagine having 15. How did she pay the hospital bills?
 

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Hospitals cannot deny someone care if admitted through an ER (i.e. they can't ask you you if you can pay or not). When someone lacks insurance, Medicare will reimburse the hospital up to a certain percentage of the cost. However, she likely had Medicaid, which would've paid those bills.
 
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The entire theme, predictably, has fallen into dog-whistle racism. And its the only a certain party can win elections. It's no huge coincidence the south has voted strictly Republican since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in the 1960's. And without the south the Republican Party and their libertarian brethren would be no where.
Dog-Whistle Racism is political campaigning or policy-making that uses coded words and themes to appeal to conscious or subconscious racist concepts and frames. For example, the concepts ‘welfare queen,’ ’states’ rights,’ ‘Islamic terrorist,’ ‘uppity,’ 'thug,' 'tough on crime,' and ‘illegal alien’ all activate racist concepts that that have already been planted in the public consciousness and now are being activated by purposeful or accidental campaign activities, media coverage, public policy and cultural traditions. So, what’s dog whistle racism? It’s pure political theater to push buttons to win elections and policies.
And it's no surprise Newt now fighting for his political survival is 'forced' to resurrect this labeling of Obama as 'the food stamp president'. Would he call Clinton that? Never mind the facts about actually who the main demographic group is for food stamps and 'welfare'. It's 'you-know-who' we're talking about as evidenced in the youtube clip above.
 

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Yes, welfare was not a problem in the early days when it benefited white women. Actually, government subsidies (such as land grants, for instance) weren't a problem either...when it benefited white establishment.
 

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Yes, welfare was not a problem in the early days when it benefited white women. Actually, government subsidies (such as land grants, for instance) weren't a problem either...when it benefited white establishment.

But never will people who rail against welfare admit that the vast majority of recipients are white.