Oh yes, the "dinner and a movie" problem. Both food and the typical movie tend to put me to sleep, and I'm not at my most engaging when I'm sawing logs. It's a real problem. A stupid one, but real.
How many REAL straight guys are there here?
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Oh yes, the "dinner and a movie" problem. Both food and the typical movie tend to put me to sleep, and I'm not at my most engaging when I'm sawing logs. It's a real problem. A stupid one, but real.
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I'm usually thinking both... but to answer your question, how many "REAL" straight guys, and has society changed, the answer to the first question is there is no such thing as straight or gay, they are extremes on a fictional continuum that doesn't describe real humans; and to answer the second question, society is changing all the time, and if you aren't at least around my age you may not be able to conceive or believe how much. Even the fact that people openly talk about penises, not to mention penis size, was so taboo when I was a kid in the 1960s, if anyone had told you a forum like this would exist someday within our lifetimes, they would have committed you to the loony bin.
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I'm straight...100% certain.I think though that you can look at other cocks in admiration rather than lust?I like to see women's reactions to large penises too...
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Certainty ain't my speciality.
...am I hoping, one day, to finally find that fabled 'better one'?
I have, and you'd be surprised which gender dishes the most beating (as opposed to beating off)
I've yet to see one i'd rather want, yet I look at pictures regardless...
...am I hoping, one day, to finally find that fabled 'better one'?
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what if it isn't actually sexual preference that is on the axis, but rather attraction?
and as that level of attraction grows, it can become sexual attraction.
i know a lot of women who find a certain guy attractive. but then it hits a tipping point, and they're sexually-attracted.
i also know a lot of women who consider themselves heterosexual, but they'd jump at the opportunity to hook-up with an angelina jolie lookalike.
as for guys, a ton of fellas might marvel at another's man's attractiveness just the same. the threshold is obviously different, but one has to wonder what would happen if society put no pressure on men to be homophobic.
maybe we'd do brad pitt and think nothing of it.
throughout all societies, people tend to gravitate towards attractive individuals, regardless of gender.
friendships, the workplace, etc. all reflect this phenomenon.
so maybe it's all about attractiveness, regardless of gender. and as that attractiveness grows past a tipping point (threshold), sexual desires kick in.
this sorta explanation allows for a variety of reasons that someone can be attracted to another individual whether it's friend, family, acquaintance, or stranger.
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and as that level of attraction grows, it can become sexual attraction.
i know a lot of women who find a certain guy attractive. but then it hits a tipping point, and they're sexually-attracted.
i also know a lot of women who consider themselves heterosexual, but they'd jump at the opportunity to hook-up with an angelina jolie lookalike.
as for guys, a ton of fellas might marvel at another's man's attractiveness just the same. the threshold is obviously different, but one has to wonder what would happen if society put no pressure on men to be homophobic.
maybe we'd do brad pitt and think nothing of it.
throughout all societies, people tend to gravitate towards attractive individuals, regardless of gender.
friendships, the workplace, etc. all reflect this phenomenon.
so maybe it's all about attractiveness, regardless of gender. and as that attractiveness grows past a tipping point (threshold), sexual desires kick in.
this sorta explanation allows for a variety of reasons that someone can be attracted to another individual whether it's friend, family, acquaintance, or stranger.
--CR
Interesting, you knwo I was telling someone the other day that homosexuality is just so relaxed now. I consider myself 100% straight, but I don't have a problem watching porn. I wouldn't want a guy to tell me I had a nice cock so therefore why would I bestow the same compliment. I didn't join here to look at cocks I joined here to either share mine or Chat with WOMEN that Love enormous cocks.
I didn't know or consider the gray area until that one day I put my intro up and it started all that drama.
I guess I would never have thought of the cyber world as that much different other than the people who pretend to be someone they are not. Guys posing as girls to see other guys...That is too much work and WAY too odd.
I think if you have ever seen porn than you can look at a cock and respect it...You don't have to want to touch it or anything else...There is nothing wrong with making the choice that is best suited for you...Especially when it is impalling the shit out of some pussy...Maybe even steal a few pointers to use on your own.
Thats why when I say women only I stick to it for as much proof as I can get. That is hard in itself these days...
I could go out on a limb and start a thread that said;
"HOW MANY REAL WOMEN ARE HERE THAT REALLY LOVE BIG DICKS."
That would probably offend the other posting parties here, but why can't "new member" or I wonder?
I didn't know or consider the gray area until that one day I put my intro up and it started all that drama.
I guess I would never have thought of the cyber world as that much different other than the people who pretend to be someone they are not. Guys posing as girls to see other guys...That is too much work and WAY too odd.
I think if you have ever seen porn than you can look at a cock and respect it...You don't have to want to touch it or anything else...There is nothing wrong with making the choice that is best suited for you...Especially when it is impalling the shit out of some pussy...Maybe even steal a few pointers to use on your own.
Thats why when I say women only I stick to it for as much proof as I can get. That is hard in itself these days...
I could go out on a limb and start a thread that said;
"HOW MANY REAL WOMEN ARE HERE THAT REALLY LOVE BIG DICKS."
That would probably offend the other posting parties here, but why can't "new member" or I wonder?
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That's true. Labels are almost so useless I don't know why they exist. I've known people who lived as "gay" for years, then ended up dating and marrying people of the opposite gender. A friend of mine, a therapist, said that one of the most taboo topics in the gay community is the fact that sexuality changes. Some people may be "straight" for a while, then become "gay," then back again. My friend, by the way, was a lesbian, became attracted to a straight man, moved in with him had his baby, started using the term "bisexual," but as a result of her relationship with a straight man she felt the local gay community didn't want her.
Soren Kirkegaard, a Danish philosopher, once said, "If you label me you negate me."
Soren Kirkegaard, a Danish philosopher, once said, "If you label me you negate me."
I wouldn't be surprised. I think men are far more supportive of one another than women are. Men seem to have an underlying desire to create a team with one another and to work together. Not always, of course. There are exceptions. But this is often the case.
Certainty ain't my speciality.
I have, and you'd be surprised which gender dishes the most beating (as opposed to beating off)
I've yet to see one i'd rather want, yet I look at pictures regardless...
...am I hoping, one day, to finally find that fabled 'better one'?
It sounds funny to say it, bro, but this is exactly how I feel. When I see a big cock, what I feel is respect for it. I also feel empowered myself. I think that in the male mind the penis, especially the erect penis, and especially a big erect penis, represents power. When I see a big cock, what goes through my mind is something like, "Well, I wish I had one that big. Unfortunately, I don't. But I respect this man for having one that big."
I suppose part of it goes back to what I mentioned above. Men seem to have a desire to build a team and work together. Knowing that someone else on my team is big and powerful makes me respect him and it makes me feel more secure in myself. I know that may be an odd view, but that's how I feel. When I see a big cock, in a porno or on this site (I watch only straight porn; seen clips of gay porn in the arcades, and it always makes me lose my erection), I don't have any desire to touch it. My first inclination is to be inspired that another man has achieved such a state of powerful masculinity; it gives me something to aspire to. The next inclination is to feel a sort of jealousy, as though he is more of a man than me. But then I just let go and am happy again for the dude, and I remember that at 6.5 I'm not really "small," and I love my penis anyway.
I suppose part of it goes back to what I mentioned above. Men seem to have a desire to build a team and work together. Knowing that someone else on my team is big and powerful makes me respect him and it makes me feel more secure in myself. I know that may be an odd view, but that's how I feel. When I see a big cock, in a porno or on this site (I watch only straight porn; seen clips of gay porn in the arcades, and it always makes me lose my erection), I don't have any desire to touch it. My first inclination is to be inspired that another man has achieved such a state of powerful masculinity; it gives me something to aspire to. The next inclination is to feel a sort of jealousy, as though he is more of a man than me. But then I just let go and am happy again for the dude, and I remember that at 6.5 I'm not really "small," and I love my penis anyway.
Damn, bro. Not only is your dick curved, it's fucking huge! This is an example of what I said earlier. I have no desire to touch your penis in any way, bro. But man do I respect it. I wish mine were that big, and if it isn't at least it's nice to know that another bro has one that big and has fun with it. I think this is sort of related to this article: http://www.lpsg.org/relationships-d...message-mrs-candy-regarding-heterosexual.html
This article says that men, all men, including straight men, have come to associate their own erect penis with experiencing pleasure, and so when we see another man's erection we are reminded of the pleasure we ourselves experienced with our own penises. Maybe, then, on some level when I see another bro's big penis, what I think is, "Think of all the pleasure I could experience if MINE were that big." And since the penis represents power in the male mind, maybe I also think, "If my penis were that big then I'd experience even more pleasure, and I'd have more power over that pleasure."
So, the penis represents pleasure and power. Two things men love, no matter the orientation. It's odd, because this guy (quercusone) could be homeless without a dime to his name, and the very fact that he's got a big penis makes me think he is powerful. That's just the way the male mind works.
This article says that men, all men, including straight men, have come to associate their own erect penis with experiencing pleasure, and so when we see another man's erection we are reminded of the pleasure we ourselves experienced with our own penises. Maybe, then, on some level when I see another bro's big penis, what I think is, "Think of all the pleasure I could experience if MINE were that big." And since the penis represents power in the male mind, maybe I also think, "If my penis were that big then I'd experience even more pleasure, and I'd have more power over that pleasure."
So, the penis represents pleasure and power. Two things men love, no matter the orientation. It's odd, because this guy (quercusone) could be homeless without a dime to his name, and the very fact that he's got a big penis makes me think he is powerful. That's just the way the male mind works.
Hey "love2showoff"
I was thinking ... you know how you have a gun in your avatar? Well, the gun is really just a symbol of the penis. In fact, some suggest that the reason guys are so into guns these days is because there is such a social taboo against discussing and displaying and being proud of the penis. This is one reason guys drive big cars, etc. It's all a penis symbol.
To get back to the gun ... some people even refer to their penises as their "gun." I'm listening to the rock band Sublime as I type this, and in a few songs he refers to his penis as his "gun." There's a song where he sings, "Take a load from my big gun."
About straight men looking at big penises and feeling respect for them though not necessarily sexual attraction to them, well, don't guys who like guns enjoy looking at the guns of other men? I think there are even magazines devoted to this, guys looking at the guns of other guys. Guys who like guns can get together in a gun shop and look at each other's guns and hold them and talk about them.
About a big penis instilling a sense of respect in a man, as I said, that's how I feel. Part of me knows it sounds like idiot, macho, dumb-ass male talk, but when I see a guy's big cock, I DO have respect for him. The guy can be dumb as hell, be broke, drive a broken down car, an idiot, etc., but if he has a big dick then I somehow have respect for him and never look at him the same way after I find this out.
Anyway, my point is that guns represent power, and men respect guns because of their power. Men who have guns and who like guns also like to learn about the guns of others and to talk about them. Just as a guy has respect for a big gun, men have respect for a big penis. In the male mind they're almost the same thing. In fact, look at the lingo to refer to guns and penises. When a man is carrying a gun, it is common to hear him referred to as "packing." He is "packing." He's "packing" a gun. Lately, this has come to refer to men with big penises. I've been asked if I'm "packing." Men with big penises are often referred to as "packing."
I was thinking ... you know how you have a gun in your avatar? Well, the gun is really just a symbol of the penis. In fact, some suggest that the reason guys are so into guns these days is because there is such a social taboo against discussing and displaying and being proud of the penis. This is one reason guys drive big cars, etc. It's all a penis symbol.
To get back to the gun ... some people even refer to their penises as their "gun." I'm listening to the rock band Sublime as I type this, and in a few songs he refers to his penis as his "gun." There's a song where he sings, "Take a load from my big gun."
About straight men looking at big penises and feeling respect for them though not necessarily sexual attraction to them, well, don't guys who like guns enjoy looking at the guns of other men? I think there are even magazines devoted to this, guys looking at the guns of other guys. Guys who like guns can get together in a gun shop and look at each other's guns and hold them and talk about them.
About a big penis instilling a sense of respect in a man, as I said, that's how I feel. Part of me knows it sounds like idiot, macho, dumb-ass male talk, but when I see a guy's big cock, I DO have respect for him. The guy can be dumb as hell, be broke, drive a broken down car, an idiot, etc., but if he has a big dick then I somehow have respect for him and never look at him the same way after I find this out.
Anyway, my point is that guns represent power, and men respect guns because of their power. Men who have guns and who like guns also like to learn about the guns of others and to talk about them. Just as a guy has respect for a big gun, men have respect for a big penis. In the male mind they're almost the same thing. In fact, look at the lingo to refer to guns and penises. When a man is carrying a gun, it is common to hear him referred to as "packing." He is "packing." He's "packing" a gun. Lately, this has come to refer to men with big penises. I've been asked if I'm "packing." Men with big penises are often referred to as "packing."
This has become a very interesting thread. Ganymede, I agree with what you have said. I have a very similar attitude.
I think a large penis is confidence building and empowering. It is a good thing I did not get a large one. I would most likely have gone straight to Hollywood years ago. I would probably have been dead by now from some social disease or from some womans jealous lovers gun. I guess God knows what to give us and why. With a personality for excess, high sex drive, and hot temper I would be dangerous if I had a lot of confidence. I guess I am better off like I am, but I can dream of what might have been.
I think a large penis is confidence building and empowering. It is a good thing I did not get a large one. I would most likely have gone straight to Hollywood years ago. I would probably have been dead by now from some social disease or from some womans jealous lovers gun. I guess God knows what to give us and why. With a personality for excess, high sex drive, and hot temper I would be dangerous if I had a lot of confidence. I guess I am better off like I am, but I can dream of what might have been.
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It is unreasonable to not respect that most people are going to be at some point in their life attracted to people of both genders. There are certainly some people who think gay is a religion and try to enforce their version of orthodoxy. There is no more or less pressure to conform to an ethnos in the gay community than any other. 'Gay' is a shorthand, the current full usage is: gay, lesbian, bi, transexual, transvestite, queer, questioning, poly, & straight allies. We try to be inclusive.
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I am getting almost as many smiles from all the 'I am straight but' posts on this thread as on the 'I get off on looking at my own pics' thread. I don't know how a guy who is '100% straight' would have ever even found this forum.
It is a 'straight guy urban myth' that most gay guys would like to suck them off. Most would not. I have read in fiction of gay guys who are only interested in sucking off straight guys, but am not personally aware of any. I think a lack of mutuality is a lack of respect.
The number guys who who have sex with guys who want to pass for straight outnumbers the self identified gay guys doing so.
Being interesting in cocks is not the total of a gay identity, I am not interested in most, there are probably some who are not interested in any.:tongue:
Hey, interesting post. I do indeed think it is a straight male myth that all gay guys are interested in having sex with every straight man out there. Heck, even I myself have assumed this, and I consider myself rather open minded and educated about this stuff.
By the way, do you have a link to that discussion about being turned on by one's own pictures? I have to be honest and say that posting my pictures, seeing pictures of my own erect penis, was a real turn-on for me. It occurred to me that I liked seeing my erect penis on the screen.
Thanks, bro.
PS: Could it be that straight men are actually more focused on the penis than gay men? I mean, yes, in addition to thinking that all gay men want every straight man, I think most straight men think that all gay men are obsessed with the penis. Oh, about how I found this site, I found it on Wikipedia. I was reading an article about the penis, then that led to penis size, then down at the bottom of the page was a link to some funny sounding forum called "Large Penis Support Group." I clicked the link to see what it was all about and was amazed by what I found. Also, I myself don't have sex with men; I don't let men blow me, etc. If I did such things I would have no shame about it, though I'm not sure what label I'd take; but then I think labels don't work anyway. Lastly, it looks like the link to this forum has been removed. Human penis size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
By the way, do you have a link to that discussion about being turned on by one's own pictures? I have to be honest and say that posting my pictures, seeing pictures of my own erect penis, was a real turn-on for me. It occurred to me that I liked seeing my erect penis on the screen.
Thanks, bro.
PS: Could it be that straight men are actually more focused on the penis than gay men? I mean, yes, in addition to thinking that all gay men want every straight man, I think most straight men think that all gay men are obsessed with the penis. Oh, about how I found this site, I found it on Wikipedia. I was reading an article about the penis, then that led to penis size, then down at the bottom of the page was a link to some funny sounding forum called "Large Penis Support Group." I clicked the link to see what it was all about and was amazed by what I found. Also, I myself don't have sex with men; I don't let men blow me, etc. If I did such things I would have no shame about it, though I'm not sure what label I'd take; but then I think labels don't work anyway. Lastly, it looks like the link to this forum has been removed. Human penis size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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