How many REAL straight guys are there here?

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That thread on this forum is titled: 'sex or masterbation and mirrors' started by Proudly Italian. It could be called autosexual or autoerotic. I didn't post anything there, though pre-internet that was for me the most usual stimulus, curious it has never waned like even the best porn does. Masterbation would be much less interesting if I weren't turned on by my own body. Being turned on by a large cock and having one, once you get turned on it's self perpetuating. I have done a lot of self photography and video, it is a turn-on looking at it particularly on a large TV. I don't have any reaction to seeing my pics posted online, the very nice comments that people have made do make me feel good though.

re the PS. Maybe, I don't know, but the person I have known who was most frequent in talking about his donkey dick was 'straight', and was always also talking about straight sex.
 

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It is unreasonable to not respect that most people are going to be at some point in their life attracted to people of both genders.

I somehow missed Ganymede's original post...

That's true. Labels are almost so useless I don't know why they exist. I've known people who lived as "gay" for years, then ended up dating and marrying people of the opposite gender. A friend of mine, a therapist, said that one of the most taboo topics in the gay community is the fact that sexuality changes. Some people may be "straight" for a while, then become "gay," then back again. My friend, by the way, was a lesbian, became attracted to a straight man, moved in with him had his baby, started using the term "bisexual," but as a result of her relationship with a straight man she felt the local gay community didn't want her.

This is analogous to my development, I think. I had, for lack of a better term, "gay impulses" from my teens on, to go with the "straight impulses". I fantasized about relationships and sex with women, and sex with men. From my early 20s I managed to try out some of these impulses. And a few years ago, the sexual attraction to men just faded away (leaving only the residual 1% gayness in my profile :wink: ).

I consider myself straight now, but I am stunned by the number of people here and elsewhere, gay and straight, who can't fathom the progression I made from bi to straight.

And if your friend found that the local gay community wasn't accepting of her because she was with a man... well... she should consider herself lucky that she wasn't a bi man seeking acceptance from a woman. Virtually all the women I've dated have been horrified by the idea of dating a bi male - or even a previously bi male. :rolleyes:
 

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To start, I have nothing against gay or bi men. I just wanted to comment that I've never seen certain things before that go on here at this site. For example, there are threads of guys commenting on other guys' penises; there are posts of self-identified straight men saying to other guys "nice dick." I'm wondering if I'm missing something here because I've never known straight guys to do this in real life. My hunch is that man of these so-called straight men are not really straight, or maybe things have changed in society and no one told me. If so, that's great. I think it's great to see people comfortable with each other. So, I'm not judging anyone. Just curious. That's all. Thanks. :)
It doesnn't reallly matter wherther the person is gay or not gay. Same as for those annoying subjects of whether or not a woman here is really a woman or are the women really and truely just men who are gay.
Non gay men like to admire the good look of a nice looking penis as much as a heterosexual woman does and as much as a gay man does. Think of the penis as a work of art.--and I do not mean Art Spiegelman.

Just asking makes me think you are judging no matter waht you say or how much you deny it. But hey that's your stuff and only you know for sure.

I have seen men who have no interest in doing anything sexual with another man--they don;t even allow a gay man to give them a blowjob--but they look at another penis and enjoy the sight. some times it impresses them sometimes it makes them feel better about the sze and shape of their own penis. Whatever it is they like to look--but not lick or touch. No problem with that as long as I can look at theirs too.
 

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I am straight - meaning never kissed in an affectionate manner, sucked, screwed or been screwed by another man. Have no intention of doing so either. I list myself as 99% straight and 1% gay because there is a strange curiousity I have towards other males. I peek and compare in the locker room but that is where it stops. This seems to be common among all men. I don't understand it but it is there. I guess in my mind 100% straight wouldn't include such behavior. I am very health conscious and at the gym on a regular basis. I have a total appreciation for a well- trained muscular body (female or male). I see beauty in that like someone suggested elsewhere in the statue of David. I am fairly fit but genetically tall and thin. I would love to be more muscular but no matter how much I train, it is just not possible. When I see an extremely muscular male, I am attracted because that it what I want to be. I have jokingly told 10.5 on this site that he is enough to make me consider being gay.

I came to this site because I have real issues trying to find underwear that are comfortable. I typically freeball but that is a whole other thread. I have posted pictures because I get a kick out of exhibitionism. I am large and my ego is gets a real kick when I get reponses from male or female.

I don't want to draw lines or cause strife but I find the following interesting:
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[QUOTE]That's true. Labels are almost so useless I don't know why they exist. I've known people who lived as "gay" for years, then ended up dating and marrying people of the opposite gender. A friend of mine, a therapist, said that one of the most taboo topics in the gay community is the fact that sexuality changes. Some people may be "straight" for a while, then become "gay," then back again. My friend, by the way, was a lesbian, became attracted to a straight man, moved in with him had his baby, started using the term "bisexual," but as a result of her relationship with a straight man she felt the local gay community

I can understand why they are upset. Hasn't the gay community defended who they are for years by saying that gay people are born gay. It is not a choice they make. The examples given above, show that individuals switch between gay and straight based on meeting certain individuals.:confused:

Sorry for the lengthy post but most do consider me rather lengthy.
 

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I've known guys with big penises who were humble and manogamous.


Yes, I have too. I was talking about MY personality and what being well endowed would have done to me. I didn't mean all well hung guys are run arounds or butt heads. I hope nobody took it that way...I ment no offense.

My personality traits run in the family. It's good that I never got into drugs or alcohol abuse. Others in the family did and they paid the price too.

I am a very materialistic person. Madonna could have sung "Material Guy"
instead of "material Girl" and it would have fit me perfectly.

I have no confidence except of material, physical things. I have confidence
to work on mechanical things or drive a commercial vehicle and that's about it. I have no social confidence at all.

I never realized what I have been doing to myself until the last couple of years. My Dad becoming ill and passing away has made me think. I have wasted 45 years of my life. I plan to see a psychiatrist if I ever get my back problems straightened out. I am off work now due to back problems.
I now realize how short and precious life is. I may not be able to change at my age...it may already be too late.

As I told someone at work as to why I have no social confidence...I am not good looking, I don't have a great physique, not well endowed, no great personality, no money, no fancy cars, no big job, no social or political status. Where would I get confidence from? I know I am not doing myself any favors by telling this but I want to be honest. I do want help to be able to change my life for the better.
 

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Well,having confidence doesnt mean you have to have this or that,being in a circle of elites or brad pitt look-alike..it's inside of you.it's how you carry yourself in many situations,it's how you interact with different types of people,it's when you are pissed but still focus..all people has his own strength,and make that strength as your source of confidence...think of this,there are less handsome guys out there that have no money,no fancy cars,no cribs,no great job,not well endowed,not physique nor having a great job BUT they still manage to have pretty and sexy babes...you could look great in your own way and for sure some girls would consider that...
 

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I am straight - meaning never kissed in an affectionate manner, sucked, screwed or been screwed by another man. Have no intention of doing so either. I list myself as 99% straight and 1% gay because there is a strange curiousity I have towards other males. I peek and compare in the locker room but that is where it stops. This seems to be common among all men. I don't understand it but it is there. I guess in my mind 100% straight wouldn't include such behavior. I am very health conscious and at the gym on a regular basis. I have a total appreciation for a well- trained muscular body (female or male). I see beauty in that like someone suggested elsewhere in the statue of David. I am fairly fit but genetically tall and thin. I would love to be more muscular but no matter how much I train, it is just not possible. When I see an extremely muscular male, I am attracted because that it what I want to be. I have jokingly told 10.5 on this site that he is enough to make me consider being gay.

I came to this site because I have real issues trying to find underwear that are comfortable. I typically freeball but that is a whole other thread. I have posted pictures because I get a kick out of exhibitionism. I am large and my ego is gets a real kick when I get reponses from male or female.

I don't want to draw lines or cause strife but I find the following interesting:
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[quote]That's true. Labels are almost so useless I don't know why they exist. I've known people who lived as "gay" for years, then ended up dating and marrying people of the opposite gender. A friend of mine, a therapist, said that one of the most taboo topics in the gay community is the fact that sexuality changes. Some people may be "straight" for a while, then become "gay," then back again. My friend, by the way, was a lesbian, became attracted to a straight man, moved in with him had his baby, started using the term "bisexual," but as a result of her relationship with a straight man she felt the local gay community
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I can understand why they are upset. Hasn't the gay community defended who they are for years by saying that gay people are born gay. It is not a choice they make. The examples given above, show that individuals switch between gay and straight based on meeting certain individuals.:confused:

Sorry for the lengthy post but most do consider me rather lengthy.

:confused: Interesting the level of heterocentrism these days on this board, like straight people here are unaware that they did not start it.

The type of person you are strongly attracted to is not a consious or deliberate choice. It extremely wrong to try to force anyone to change who they partner to suit your prejudices. The homophobia of this society is an aberration, gay people have always existed, probably an equal proportion in all societies geographically and historicly. Christian missionaries brought homophobia with them everywhere they went. Previously most societies have had a respected place (some even preferred) for their gay members. No sexual orientation is absolute, ideally one should be attracted to the person.

A person who is extremely attractive is going to affect people who would not normally notice a person of their sex.

Many people take quite a few years to learn what type of person they are attracted to and respond to.

Most frequently they start out in a straight relationship, the default mode, or because of being pushed into it by society, or to please another person who wants to partner. The proportion of gay people with children is close to that of straight people. Among lesbians, there are a few who have been alienated to men because of abuse in a straight relationship(used to be more).

We don't need to have our existence justified or approved, it's our planet too. We are not the problem, bigotry is.
 

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I am getting almost as many smiles from all the 'I am straight but' posts on this thread as on the 'I get off on looking at my own pics' thread. I don't know how a guy who is '100% straight' would have ever even found this forum.

It is a 'straight guy urban myth' that most gay guys would like to suck them off. Most would not. I have read in fiction of gay guys who are only interested in sucking off straight guys, but am not personally aware of any. I think a lack of mutuality is a lack of respect.

The number guys who who have sex with guys who want to pass for straight outnumbers the self identified gay guys doing so.

Being interesting in cocks is not the total of a gay identity, I am not interested in most, there are probably some who are not interested in any.:tongue:


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Well, some of the gays i asked were interested in sucking straight guys and not their same sexuality..

FYI,i've known this site and browsing for years before i joined..plus i've been a member in lpsg in YAHOO GROUPS before this site was created..
 

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To start, I have nothing against gay or bi men. I just wanted to comment that I've never seen certain things before that go on here at this site. For example, there are threads of guys commenting on other guys' penises; there are posts of self-identified straight men saying to other guys "nice dick." I'm wondering if I'm missing something here because I've never known straight guys to do this in real life. My hunch is that man of these so-called straight men are not really straight, or maybe things have changed in society and no one told me. If so, that's great. I think it's great to see people comfortable with each other. So, I'm not judging anyone. Just curious. That's all. Thanks. :)

At the end of the day, it's always going to be the individual that determines something as complex as their sexuality. If a person has only had sex with men, but considers themselves 100% straight, then they are 100% straight. Your experience and judgments aside, we all have different rules when it comes to determining sexuality. And like most things in life, the more knowledgeable person is probably less likely to be bullshitting. The most knowledgeable person concerning one's sexuality is the individual.
 

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With sites like 'adultfriendfinder' I get about twice many 'straight' guys who 'have never had sex with a guy' wanting 'discreet' encounters than self respecting, self identified gay guys. Frustrating when I would like to have a boyfriend, someone who just wants to get their rocks off and is then going to be too ashamed to ever be a friend is not as attractive as they think.

I have relatives who are very proud of being '100%' cherokee, they avoid the sun so the large african element doesn't show. It's the same thing.

I think this site was here before the yahoo group. I have followad it through 3 server changes, it dissappeared and it was a while before I found it again. I think it was started in1999, it was let die by who ever it was that started it, it was restarted in 2002 by Mister Mark and sponsored by his business, Extreemcock. That was when I found it.

Most guys have sex with both guys and women, because of homophobia, they trumpet one and keep the other a secret.
 

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At the end of the day, it's always going to be the individual that determines something as complex as their sexuality. If a person has only had sex with men, but considers themselves 100% straight, then they are 100% straight. Your experience and judgments aside, we all have different rules when it comes to determining sexuality. And like most things in life, the more knowledgeable person is probably less likely to be bullshitting. The most knowledgeable person concerning one's sexuality is the individual.


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what do you mean when you said sex with a man?is blowjob already having sex with a man?i think its a foreplay,right? it only arouses you..i may consider having an anal sex as sex...coz guys dont have vaginas..LOL.
 

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A man can have sex mainly with men and still consider himself straight, whereas a woman sometimes considers herself lesbian without ever having had sex with another woman.

I've seen occassions of both.
 
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Um. What? :confused:

Okay, then apparently "gay" no longer means "man who has sex with man". I thought that the lowest common denominator among gay men was that they had, or at least wanted to have, sex with men. Now you're saying that some straight men can have sex with men and not be gay. To me, this just sounds like a gay man who is calling himself straight. It's kind of like a white person who lives in the ghetto, listens to rap music, and tries to pretend he's black. Try all you want, but you are white. Call yourself straight all you want, but straight men do not have sex with gay men.

I guess I can see it in another way, if it is developmental or a phase or something. Maybe a guy, while searching for himself, can have sex with other men ... then move on and realize he is "straight." But I'd think that while still at a period of his life where he's having sex with men, a man must be gay.
 

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Appears New member has A LARGE case of Penis envy. the male form is a wonderful work of art and to be admired by everyone. sounds like he needs to get a life.
 
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But still... labels are useful to man...
Brush off a female..? "Sorry i'm gay."
Brush off a male..? "FUK U GUNNA DIE BICH!" *swings rusted chisel*

...regardless of an uncertain orientation.
 

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This seems to be a case of a label becoming an encubrance.

I honestly believe some guys are born homosexual. Something about their physical/emotional/hormonal composition makes them that way, and no amount of calling them names or quoting scripture at them is going to change that.

Other guys are just as naturally heterosexual, and nothing will change that.

The vast majority of us fall somewhere in between. Our life experiences and personal composition incline us to seek the intimate company of men over women, women over men, or varying amounts of both; but we can't completely and comfortably call ourselves gay or straight.

Perhaps, it should then be only on forums like this, where we can attempt to put a percentage on our inclinations, that the labels are gently applied. Certainly, who are we to question how another chooses to label himself or herself?
 

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I tend to agree with that last post. The following not so much:

Now you're saying that some straight men can have sex with men and not be gay. To me, this just sounds like a gay man who is calling himself straight .... But I'd think that while still at a period of his life where he's having sex with men, a man must be gay.

The fact is that a large number of straight guys have had some sexual contact with other men in their lives, and a large number of gay men have had sexual contact with women at some point. Does one sexual experience with a guy make a straight man gay? I've had sexual contact with woman, and I promise you that I am not straight. So what's the dividing line, and how important is it to even establish a dividing line?

I guess you could say that all such people are bisexual, but then we start to stretch that term past its usefulness. There are so many "shades of grey" that it seems easier to let people define themselves and then just realize that there are ... exceptions. LOL