How to survive an authoritarian regime

[jtm011]

Canada eh ? Why do you even care ? Glad you have no bias....yeah, right!

Because only an idiot would be happy that the greatest power in the West has handed the future over to China! It affects us all.

 

[Mr Ed in Mass]

If that's how you feel, be happy in your ignorance . It's only your opinion ( which you fail to realize ) and opinions are like another part of the body, everyone has one

 

[deleted15807]

Because only an idiot would be happy that the greatest power in the West has handed the future over to China! It affects us all.

Donald Trump’s speeches(all lies) make them feel good. So does OxyContin.

 

[jtm011]

If that's how you feel, be happy in your ignorance . It's only your opinion ( which you fail to realize ) and opinions are like another part of the body, everyone has one

If you're talking about the rise of Communist China, China overtaking the US and their Belt and Road policy for world domination this isn't my 'opinion', it's fact. Trump even kissed Xi ass in his speech when he was just there. It's up to you if you want to delude yourself in some fantasy of the US as it was back in the 1950s. The fact is you can't even justify your point "took our country back" from whom.

Face it Ed, you have no facts. You're living a lie. I present facts. You just say things that make you feel 'good'.

 

[Mr Ed in Mass]

Think what you want, I decided to keep my "facts " to myself since you only are intent on harassing me.ps, I think your"facts" are bullshit, so we're even .....have a nice day !!

 

[malakos]

(she must have slept with the Pussy Grabber)

So, to reiterate yet again, the context of "... grab 'em by the pussy" was a) shooting the shit and b) a potential statement rather than an actual one. Of course you're free to believe that he was suggesting something actual, but the fact of the matter is that his remark was not formatted as an admission of an actuality.

Must I include child molester Roy Moore?

I am no expert, so if you know more about this topic, feel free to correct me, but what I know is that all that Mr. Moore has admitted to is dating young women who were of age (16+). I'll not say that that isn't a bit creepy, however it does not constitute pedophilia nor does it constitute statutory rape.

America was better when we had slavery.

Haha, no. The USA reached its peak of production quite a while after the abolition of slavery, nevermind the ethical and humanitarian issues that were resolved by abolishing it. Who in the mainstream is suggesting that we were better with slavery?

Them homosexuals are animals.

Again, who in the mainstream?

And Vladimir is pro-life. So I am more like him.

You're more like him??

I'd be willing to bet that he is indeed more pro-life than your average American.

Can we go any lower?

No doubt. The decline of Western society has not been curbed. Adopting nationalist policies may slow the process, but it is a mere band-aid, not a real solution. Unfortunately Mr. Trump is not the sort to offer more than a band-aid. Someone like Jacob Rees-Mogg, on the other hand...

Jerusalem is now recognized as the capital of Israel.

Evangelical Protestants need Jerusalem to be the capital so the rapture can happen. Then, then Jews are "left behind" and end up in hell.

I'm no fan of Evangelicals either. But frankly, so long as the Palestinian side continues to choose Islamists as their leaders who promote the extermination of the Jews in their party platform, and suicide bombings as the justified means of accomplishing their reconquest of the Levant, then any policy that puts them at a disadvantage is a good one.

^ said by a socialist

Are you truly a socialist or just one of those deluded Bernie bros who thinks any government regulated enterprise is socialism?

transsexual-loving

Loving mentally disordered people is a good thing, I agree.

snowflake

For the real comrades.

 

[malakos]

"Took our country back" from who?

Ideally from the Cultural Marxists. Tbh, I don't think President Trump has already accomplished this, but it's been a good start.

Wasn't America a more sane nation before Trump 'won' the election.

Maybe... but I wouldn't say that any particular President contributed much to the decline of cultural sanity, the current one included. No, the momentum was already there from decades in the making and the nation is more insane now than a couple of years ago because of that.

(I put 'won' in quotations because he actually lost the popular vote.)

Very funny. Don't act like you don't understand what the Constitution lays out as the determining factor in the presidential election.

But who did you take the country back from? And who did you give it to?

Again, ideally from Cultural Marxists back to patriots. However, this has, IMO, only been a partial reposession, and that is because the MAGA movement only captured a small piece of the truth.

America as you know it is being thrown in the dustbin of history and the only superpower to move forward from all of this is China! Is that what you consider winning?

What a pathetic defeatist attitude! If we actually picked someone (yes, I am implying that Mr. Trump isn't a great representation of this ideal) who believed in restoring wholeness and integrity to the American economy then we would actually have a good chance of making a comeback.

 

[deleted15807]

The decline of Western society has not been curbed.

Name an empire that didn't decline What makes Western society so special it shouldn't suffer the same fate of all that came before it?

Success is never final.

 

[malakos]

Name an empire that didn't decline

Haha. Fair point. History suggests that its loss is inevitable. But I would like to see it prolonged as far as is possible.

What makes Western society so special it shouldn't suffer the same fate of all that came before it?

Lots. Instead of making a ridiculous long list, I'd think just discussing one point at a time would make the most sense. Start with individualism. Westerners are responsible for developing the philosophy of the value, worth, and rights of the individual. No other society before ultimately saw the individual as anything other than expendable, and frankly most non-Western societies still haven't realized these principles.

Success is never final.

Perhaps. We shall see...

 

[malakos]

I'm sure the dementia diagnosis for Trump is soon

That can only be done by a psychiatrist/psychologist whom the client is in the care of. Celebrity families will make public announcements about it either when they want to engage in the societal dialogue about the condition or when the symptoms become so obvious that it can't be avoided without a leak. I don't see any indications that the family is beginning to assume his responsibilities for him, so why would you think we're approaching the family revealing this?

Well hate is "unpopular" e.g. it's against the TOS. And that seems to be where all the "Righties" get tripped up and that fact always seems to elude you. You guys really don't know the difference between hate speech and free speech. They are one in the same. It's such a part of who you are it's just inseparable from your core beliefs.

Yes, that aspect of the TOS is unfortunate.

"Free speech" and "hate speech" do not refer to the same concepts, and yes, I do know the real difference between them. "Free speech" refers to the protection of freedom of (verbal) expression from infringement, Constitutionally speaking from the government, though the concept can be used more broadly if not referring to constitutional status specifically. "Free speech" constitutionally covers nearly all speech, with some slim exceptions like incitement to violence. "Hate speech" is speech that expresses or incites categorical hatred towards a group or an individual based on their group associations. Hate speech is one of the types of speech that is Constitutionally protected as free speech; that is why we associate the two, because unlike you we want to defend the First Amendment rather than revise (subvert) it.

It's no surprise though given the science of the conservative brain how a politician like Trump and the Republican Party in general can harness all your flaws to electoral success:

1. Conservatives tend to focus on the negative
2. Conservatives have a stronger physiological response to threat
3. Conservatives fear new experiences
4. Conservatives’ brains are more reactive to fear

Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes

No bias there at all...

"This would seem to explain why so many major conservative viewpoints tend to be rooted in irrational fears..."

Lulz

Were Conservatives wrong a century ago when they started asserting that acceptance of contraceptives was the beginning of a slippery slope towards all sorts of sexual immorality? Nope, they turned out to be 100% in their slippery slope evaluation. Often our evaluation of where things are headed turns out to be right. The real difference is a matter of values, not our predictions being irrational.

It's always clear to us "Lefties" when the "Reich Wing" is about to run off the rails with hate speech which you call "free speech".

I see only shades of difference between open racial hostility and the accommodation of racial hostility. It’s all interrelated and interdependent.

Ok... So what?

It's dog whistle

As I said, I don't use dog whistles. I'm entirely transparent in this venue about my beliefs and you don't really have any basis for arguing otherwise.

MercuryGirl is far less nuanced than you. Her posts are deleted as hate speech that you "like" while your posts take the long road to the same destination and manage to not run afoul of the TOS. Two sides of the same coin.

Oh no, you're still going on about that?! She has been gone for nearly 6 months now!!

And we've already been over that post once or twice before. There is nothing covert about my behavior in that case. As I said before, I think it was a little heavy-handed and aggressive, but I basically agreed with the point she was making and so Liked the post. I didn't see it as hate speech when I first saw it and Liked it, I didn't when it was reported, I didn't when you last asked me about it, and I still don't. I don't think what was underlying it was general hatred of "Blacks". There have been a number of posts that I have skimmed and Liked on the basis of a quick impression and then taken another look and withdrew that because I realized they were bigoted. That post was not one of those.

You seem to be suggesting again that I am cleverly skirting the bounds of what is acceptable. The problem with that is that I am open about my opinions and have a number of times expressed some that could very well have been labeled "hate speech", especially if you had been the judge of that. For example, I at one time expressed the belief that my race overall is generally superior to others. That is a belief I no longer hold, yet it's important to point out that I received no reprimand at the time. That is likely because I know how to conduct myself in a civil manner. That is what has been saving me, not withholding of views.

 

[malakos]

Right-wingers are really hellbent on "end-of-the-world" prophecies

Huh... interesting you say that, because I've certainly been hearing apocalyptic predictions from the Left a whole hell of a lot more over the past few years.

They hate on the youth (all snowflakes)

Haha, no. If you're not aware of the New Right movement (populated mostly by youth) then you must be living under a rock, or at least some sort of echo chamber.

they hate the poor (welfare queens)

Opposition to welfare isn't always motivated by hatred for the poor. Some believe that charity is more effective for helping the poor and also satisfies moral obligations in a way that welfare doesn't. Actually, I've encountered recently a number of Right-wingers (mostly Catholics) for whom helping the poor is one of their top 5 social concerns.

they hate on gay people (destroying traditional marriage)

You'd be surprised how much attitudes towards homosexuality have changed on the Right in the past 10 years.

I'd agree though that there is a drive in the Gay movement to dismantle traditional marriage.

they hate on everything that isn't a white, small-town redneck.

I prefer European, traditionalist, aristocratic, and educated, but ok.

DOOM, DOOM and GLOOM. Watching an hour of Fox News and you will need anti-depressants to get you out of bed. I forgot: Liberals don't work, so the don't need to get out of bed. Just conservatives work and pay taxes.

Ah... ok...

 

[malakos]

It's so blatantly obvious what their mission is and it is not objective journalism.

"Objective journalism". A fine ideal, but practically not really possible. Bias is too powerful. The real solution isn't pretending that we can create "objective journalism", but having a citizenry that is aware of the inherent bias of the media and having the intellectual tools to evaluate the biases. Even then, everyone will be guided by bias on some level, even those who are more aware of it.

...under the guise of free speech and freedom of the press.

Oh right, I'm talking to Mr. Fuck-Free-Speech. Well, in case you don't understand, for those who actually do support the First Amendment, citing free speech to justify biased reporting isn't some ruse. The First Amendment actually justifies and protects the dissemination of biased opinions. The Constitution is the justification, and that is sufficient to an American patriot for allowing that speech.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

No, saying that I need my head examined IS childish on your part, everyone has their own reasons why,and I don't have to justify it to you or anyone else . Bernie is a socialist, if you can not believe it ,fine, just don't try to blow smoke my way. There is no way we could pay for everything he promised.
Hillary would have destroyed this country....again my opinion don't believe it, ....your opinion

It's only childish if I was being sarcastic. I wasn't.

 

[deleted15807]

Oh right, I'm talking to Mr. Fuck-Free-Speech.

Hate speech is all you want protected. Period.

German Europids are right on the right track . They know a thing or two about where your speech leads.

Germany’s social media hate speech law is now in effect

 

[sodominsane]

a friend of mine was from a very rural part of the US.....double digit unemployed....a manufacturing base that's left town....the only industry in town is a chicken rendering plant that pays slave labor rates to illegals..and the rich kid in school was the son of the guy who carried the MAIL


this was the forgotten America yearning for a time that's gone and perhaps never was

how these people could feel that a new York plutocrate the guy that's gonna represent them I'll never know

 

[bigbull29]

Vladimir Putin is pro-life. Let's all move to Russia so we can be good Christians. At least Vladimir protects the unborn and murders the "born" who disagree with him. I'm sure they would vote for Hitler, too, if he had been pro-life (whatever the hell that means).

Evangelicals are falling into Putin's trap. Russia is trying to get the Alt Right to hate Progressive Liberals with an everlasting hate.

Keep falling for the Russkies and hating on your own people. The Russians are having a field day.

Donald Trump IS a pussy-grabber. He's a pervert. He used to talk filth on the Howard Stern show. It wouldn't surprise is Donald didn't date rape a few women. End of story.

 

[bigbull29]

a friend of mine was from a very rural part of the US.....double digit unemployed....a manufacturing base that's left town....the only industry in town is a chicken rendering plant that pays slave labor rates to illegals..and the rich kid in school was the son of the guy who carried the MAIL


this was the forgotten America yearning for a time that's gone and perhaps never was

how these people could feel that a new York plutocrate the guy that's gonna represent them I'll never know

He gives the doom and gloom, hate monologues they all want to hear. They never thought Donald had solutions to their real problems. They loved the hate rhetoric: blame Hillary, blame Muslims, blame Mexicans, blame bitches who have had abortions at nine months, blame China, blame Germany, blame POW's who got captured, blame black people, blames liberals for some War on Christmas, etc. JUST DON'T: blame dear ole' Russia!

He calls people "SOB's" for not standing up for the flag but yet pokes fun of an American POW "who got captured" and gives the highest of praise for a foreign dictator who wants nothing more than our demise.

Words do matter when you're a leader. They can lead to war.

 

[sodominsane]

he said alot...lots of plans if i remember....a wall...favorable trade deal...return of manufacturing...loser gun laws....restructing of affordable care act...etc

some will happen....some won't.....

but ill bet ya that corporate and rich folks tax cut goes through......BET ON IT

 

[bigbull29]

Roy Moore is a child molester. Men in their 30's don't date 16 year-old girls. If you do while as a judge, teacher, etc, you get fired. He was banned from the mall, for crying out loud. He tried to date minors. Even if he didn't molest the 14-year-old (and we all know he did), he's a sick puppy who should rot the rest of life in jail.

@Right wingers: You can't go any lower. You love Putin and child molesters. You know how you always rip on moderate Muslims for not speaking out against the hardline extremists. Well, let me put it to you this way: where in the hell do I see a majority of moderate Republicans speaking out against Trump, Putin, and Moore????? They are far and few between, if there are barely any at all.

Yes, Fox News is supporting Putin, Moore and, yes, King Pussy Grabber Donald J. Trump.
Just tune into Hannity.

 

[deleted15807]

Start with individualism. Westerners are responsible for developing the philosophy of the value, worth, and rights of the individual. No other society before ultimately saw the individual as anything other than expendable, and frankly most non-Western societies still haven't realized these principles.

And yet you support a party that is interested in taking that all away from people. It turns out all those beliefs are just myths we tell ourselves that enable us to work cooperatively in cooperative networks vs. the other life forms we share the planet with. And those beliefs/myths can change very rapidly as we see now as totalitarianism and authoritarianism are on the rise big time across the planet. That is homo sapiens great strength and great weakness.