How would you react if someone grabbed your junk in a gym gang shower room?

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I'd probably throw a punch, or at the very least swear him out and report him to the gym administration
 

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I was just reading the "have you ever been groped" thread and it's amazing the huge difference of reactions from an unwanted FEMALE touching your genitalia and and another guy touching your genitalia.

Wow. Isn't it rape when a woman without your consent touches your junk too? Are you gonna report her to the cops and management? What a hypocritical double standard.
 

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If ANYONE is fondling my junk without permission, there will be a problem. No, I'm not going to hit a woman. Although, why a woman would be in a males only shower is beyond me.

Now, seriously, if something happened, say, on a dance floor, I wouldn't have such a negative reaction. Depending on who was doing the groping, I might like it. Of course, I wouldn't necessarily take it to another level, but I wouldn't really freak out. If I didn't want it, I'd probably dance away from that person, or leave the dance floor if said person was being persistent, male or female.

On a bus or train, then, a polite "Pardon me" or "Watch yourself" would probably be in order, no matter what sex it was.

For me, those are three different situations. A shower, where I'm naked and vulnerable, a dance floor, where people are moving and grinding, and it's somewhat sexualized*, and a bus, where it's...Not.

*Which doesn't make someone being unnecessarily forward and grabby any more appropriate. Obviously, I wouldn't grope someone, either male or female. IMO, that's just way too much. A little flirtatious smile, and "Hey, you're sexy." works just fine coming on to somebody, IMO
 

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I was just reading the "have you ever been groped" thread and it's amazing the huge difference of reactions from an unwanted FEMALE touching your genitalia and and another guy touching your genitalia.

Wow. Isn't it rape when a woman without your consent touches your junk too? Are you gonna report her to the cops and management? What a hypocritical double standard.

there is a difference between "without your consent" and "unwanted."
 

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The implicit social contract in a locker room is usually that boundaries will be respected and they generally are. In decades of using them the most that has happened to me is that on a couple of occasions a guy lightly brushed my ass, which might have been accidental given the circumstances. One guy started staring at me in the showers, to the point of hiding behind the shower curtain an peeking. That made me mad so I walked up to him and told him if there was something he wanted to see I would show it to him. No more problem.
 

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Would you get angry, freak out, let him touch you, just step away, what?

Earl if it's you then fine... I give you carte blanche. However if it's anyone else then no... I don't like to grabbed I never have. I go to the gym to work out. I go in the steam room or sauna to relax; I can have sex at home. My gym has a no tolerance rule for sexual harassment or activity. If you are caught you loose your membership.
 

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what kind of sick pervert flirts by groping?

If you choose to label and denigrate people who have the maturity to know that simple human contact is nothing to flip your shit over, that says more about you than it does them.

uh no, it would be like sticking your fingers inside the hooters waitress.

You're lost, my friend. The thread you're looking for is How would you react if you were showering in a gym gang shower and someone fingered your butthole?

That's why a shove, possibly a punch, and a loud "WTF are you doing?!" is in order. It clearly sets the boundary that it's not appropriate. And yes, I'd report whomever to management.

Because, "Hey, dude. Please don't touch my dick," is so ambiguous?

there is a difference between "without your consent" and "unwanted."

So, the crime committed here that supposedly warrants physical violence against another person is him making the grievous mistake of not automatically assuming that you're straight? There's a term for that. It's called Gay Bashing.

Look, I'm a guy who likes to rock out with his cock out. I've found myself in situations where a perfect stranger gave in to the temptation to reach out and grab my dick more times than a respectable person probably should. Occasionally, the touch was welcome. More often than not, the sight of the guy with his hand on my dick made me want to barf all over him and myself. Do you know what all those situations had in common, besides the obvious? My initial reaction. Regardless of whether I intended to encourage or discourage the fellows, every single time without exception ... I met them with a smile. I smiled, said something friendly and then proceeded with addressing whether or not I wanted the touching to continue.

In the South, we call that gentlemanly behavior.

All the opinions in this thread supporting the idea that one man's uninvited touch on another man's genitals deserves to be met with violence positively reeks of the rampant homophobia and sexual repression that is pervasive in our society. If you take umbrage to that and think, "I'm not homophic!" I suggest you at least take a minute to consider whether your opinion on this matter is, or is not. All the guys that post on craigslist looking to find other guys to suck their cock, but are adamant that they don't want any that don't act like "REAL men" would most likely swear to you that they aren't sexist or homophobic, either.

Bigotry is an extremely insidious vice and there are so many forms of it that are still regarded as acceptable by our society that most people don't even realize that they're guilty of it until they have notions they've held their entire lives, notions they've taken for granted as being just, challenged by someone who sees things differently.

This ridiculously over-blown mole hill of a hypothetical situation probably also stems from parents telling their children, over and over, "Anyone who tries to touch your special place is a bad, bad man. Yell, 'STRANGER DANGER,' and run away!" That's all well and good for keeping your children safe, but an integral part of being an adult is learning when to put away childish things.

Anytime a guy tries to touch your dick, invited or not, it means he thinks you have an awesome cock. So awesome, in fact, that he's demonstrably unable to keep his hands off of it. That should be flattering, not infuriating.

Is it asking too much for people to learn to take a freakin' compliment?
 

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Dudes, Complements are verbal; and gestures / complements do not require physical contact.

I see the term Gay Bashing used above, because some men would react with A physical response to being unwantedly touched. I know the thread is about guys; but if A man gropes a woman even at the beach / nude beach she may smack the crap out of him or have mim arrested for violating her space/ body. This is not a complement to most strangers

In New York the the subway system has spent $ 1,000s of dollars to put posters in trains about unwanted physical contact M/M M/F whatever. Trains where you are actually packed together and not by choice. The penalty is arrest and jail.
 
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To answer the question in the thread title: I would react badly, and the groper would probably really wish he had not done it.

I know there were many other deviations from the original question posted so far, but my opinion is that groping someone, no matter your sexual orientation, in a locker room is not acceptable. If you don't know a person, then there is no way of knowing what they find acceptable involving touching or flirting. Grabbing someone's junk in a shower room is a bad idea!
 

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Anytime a guy tries to touch your dick, invited or not, it means he thinks you have an awesome cock. So awesome, in fact, that he's demonstrably unable to keep his hands off of it. That should be flattering, not infuriating.

Is it asking too much for people to learn to take a freakin' compliment?

A person that goes around willy-nilly touching/grabbing things or people just because they're attracted to them has very little to no self-restraint.

No one has the right to fondle/touch a person without their consent just because they find them attractive. Regardless of gender or orientation.

And there are plenty of other ways to complement a person without initiating physical contact that may or may not be wanted. Especially with the fact that some (if not most) people wouldn't react in a positive way.
 

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Is coveryouteeth taking the piss? He's a fucking doombrain if not. 'I just smile when I get molested, it's good behaviour!' Jesus H Crispy.
 

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I've thought of a solution for all the big men who think they're perfectly entitled to beat the crap out of someone for simply coming on to them: Wear your swim trunks in the gang showers.

That way, you send an unmistakable message to all your fellow gym patrons. "I'm a pussy who's afraid my life would be over if another man's hand ever came into contact with my super dinky wiener."

Solves everyone's problem, doesn't it?
 

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I've thought of a solution for all the big men who think they're perfectly entitled to beat the crap out of someone for simply coming on to them: Wear your swim trunks in the gang showers.

That way, you send an unmistakable message to all your fellow gym patrons. "I'm a pussy who's afraid my life would be over if another man's hand ever came into contact with my super dinky wiener."

Solves everyone's problem, doesn't it?
Grabbing somebody elses junk is more than coming onto somebody. There is a reason the phrase, "show me on the doll where the bad man touched you" exists.

I am not saying that they are bad men, or that you should beat them up... but I dont think you should underestimate how serious touching another guys package is. In fact, its a crime... its sexual assault. You are molesting another grown man.
 

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I'm tired of this discussion. Entirely my fault for trying to point out that the common mentality fails to hold up under scrutiny of logic and reason. I make that mistake a lot, it seems.

But, because it appears my position has been completely misunderstood, I'll take one last stab at clarification.

Grabbing somebody elses junk is more than coming onto somebody. There is a reason the phrase, "show me on the doll where the bad man touched you" exists.

You're presenting a false cuasality. "Show me on the doll..." is a law enforcement tactic used to put abused children at ease so that they'll talk about instances when adults, who by virtue of their maturity alone exert enough power and influence over these children to cajole them into submitting to their unwanted sexual advances. The children are vulnerable, powerless, defenseless victims. That's what makes sexual child abuse such a heinous crime.

One would have to do an innumerable amount of hypothetical gymnastics to come up with a scenario in which a straight guy showering in a GYM shower is both powerless and incapable of defending himself. Some would argue that being naked around other people makes a man vulnerable.

I would say that those people are far more delicate little daffodils than myself.

I am not saying that they are bad men, or that you should beat them up... but I dont think you should underestimate how serious touching another guys package is. In fact, its a crime... its sexual assault. You are molesting another grown man.

What I'm suggesting is that the majority of you overestimate how serious this stupid issue is. I'm not advocating that guys who like dick be given carte blanche to fondle whomever they like free from recrimination. What I'm advocating AGAINST is this apparently wide-held belief that should by horror of horrors this actually happen to some poor, fragile, over-sensitive straight guy ... hitting the guy that touched his dick is not an appropriate response.

We still live in a crazily patriarchal society in which objectifying women has long been accepted practice. With growing tolerance of gay people (such as it is), men are starting to realize what it feels like to be objectified and as has clearly been demonstrated in this thread, the vast majority of men in our society sadly lack the maturity to properly process this change.

I realize this will never sink in with most of you, because we are inundated from birth with messages that sex is naughty, anything having to do with the penis is dirty!bad!wrong, any kind of affectionate display between two men is worse than that, times infinity. You've all clearly bought into that. Far be it for yours humbly to shake you out of that steaming crock.

But, this is how I look at it (and then I'll shut up, I swear): A flaccid penis is just a body part. There's nothing inherently bad or wrong or fearful about it. When a man is unaroused, his dick is hardly more erogenous than his elbow. Would you punch out a man who touched your elbow in the shower? Your dick will not be soiled, or damaged, or broken by this unfortunate occurrence. (If it is, than you've got bigger medical concerns to contend with than your insanely overprotective regard for your personal space.) When his hand leaves your cock, it will be exactly the same cock it was before he "violated" you. No harm. No foul. You will not be scared for life. You will not be emotionally traumatized. You are not a powerless victim who's development stands the risk of being thrown off track as a result.

And to any guys who would react thusly, again I would say ... get some cats ... don't leave your house.

However, I am not my brother's keeper. If you all still feel like the fact that you drank the Kool Aid when you were 6, and haven't bothered to entertain a rational thought to the contrary since, entitles you to break some other guy's face, then I can't stop you.

But if you would, put yourself in his shoes for a second. Which is more important to you: Your Precious Virtue or The Structural Integrity of Your Face?
 
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I'm tired of this discussion. Entirely my fault for trying to point out that the common mentality fails to hold up under scrutiny of logic and reason. I make that mistake a lot, it seems.

But, because it appears my position has been completely misunderstood, I'll take one last stab at clarification.



You're presenting a false cuasality. "Show me on the doll..." is a law enforcement tactic used to put abused children at ease so that they'll talk about instances when adults, who by virtue of their maturity alone exert enough power and influence over these children to cajole them into submitting to their unwanted sexual advances. The children are vulnerable, powerless, defenseless victims. That's what makes sexual child abuse such a heinous crime.

One would have to do an innumerable amount of hypothetical gymnastics to come up with a scenario in which a straight guy showering in a GYM shower is both powerless and incapable of defending himself. Some would argue that being naked around other people makes a man vulnerable.

I would say that those people are far more delicate little daffodils than myself.



What I'm suggesting is that the majority of you overestimate how serious this stupid issue is. I'm not advocating that guys who like dick be given carte blanche to fondle whomever they like free from recrimination. What I'm advocating AGAINST is this apparently wide-held belief that should by horror of horrors this actually happen to some poor, fragile, over-sensitive straight guy ... hitting the guy that touched his dick is not an appropriate response.

We still live in a crazily patriarchal society in which objectifying women has long been accepted practice. With growing tolerance of gay people (such as it is), men are starting to realize what it feels like to be objectified and as has clearly been demonstrated in this thread, the vast majority of men in our society sadly lack the maturity to properly process this change.

I realize this will never sink in with most of you, because we are inundated from birth with messages that sex is naughty, anything having to do with the penis is dirty!bad!wrong, any kind of affectionate display between two men is worse than that, times infinity. You've all clearly bought into that. Far be it for yours humbly to shake you out of that steaming crock.

But, this is how I look at it (and then I'll shut up, I swear): A flaccid penis is just a body part. There's nothing inherently bad or wrong or fearful about it. When a man is unaroused, his dick is hardly more erogenous than his elbow. Would you punch out a man who touched your elbow in the shower? Your dick will not be soiled, or damaged, or broken by this unfortunate occurrence. (If it is, than you've got bigger medical concerns to contend with than your insanely overprotective regard for your personal space.) When his hand leaves your cock, it will be exactly the same cock it was before he "violated" you. No harm. No foul. You will not be scared for life. You will not be emotionally traumatized. You are not a powerless victim who's development stands the risk of being thrown off track as a result.

And to any guys who would react thusly, again I would say ... get some cats ... don't leave your house.

However, I am not my brother's keeper. If you all still feel like the fact that you drank the Kool Aid when you were 6, and haven't bothered to entertain a rational thought to the contrary since, entitles you to break some other guy's face, then I can't stop you.

But if you would, put yourself in his shoes for a second. Which is more important to you: Your Precious Virtue or The Structural Integrity of Your Face?

D00d. Seriously.

Boundaries. There are many people who are at the very least ambivalent about being touched by strangers. There are a few who are rather tactile defensive, and just don't care to be touched.

In a situation where one isnude, showering, and sex is the last thing on your mind, for many people, is sex.

Being touched on the back or shoulder is one thing, but to be touched on the private parts, without invitation, is another completely.

You referred to it as someone "coming on" to you....ah, no. In my book, coming on to someone is a flirtatious smile, maybe a touch on the shoulder, a compliment on their body, etc. A hand on the private parts is way, way too pushy.

Also, as mentioned above, is the social contract issue. I think I have the right to shower in peace, without some random dude grabbing on my private parts.

Just because I would react negatively to it doesn't make me a Pearl Clutching Mary.

Same thing for any other body part. I have the right to be able to shower in peace, without being felt on. It doesn't matter if a person is feeling on my elbow, my shoulder, or my dick. I have the right to not like it, and to react negatively.
 

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Depends... If it was your hot self doing the grabbing, then I'd probably grab on to those beefy pecs of yours, to hold myself up, after becoming weak in the knees. :wink:
You could be sure I'd be soaping up your cute little ass too.:smile:

I went back to the OP.
So Earllogjam,you be so cool you shit ice cubes.
Fact is , you posted here and you felt violated.
You got felt up? Uninvited? Knucklesandwich. Finish.
Nah, just a temptation sometimes. Never happened to me in a straight place.

there is a difference between "without your consent" and "unwanted."
Yeah, the difference usually depends on how attractive to grabber is.

Earl if it's you then fine... I give you carte blanche. However if it's anyone else then no... I don't like to grabbed I never have. I go to the gym to work out. I go in the steam room or sauna to relax; I can have sex at home. My gym has a no tolerance rule for sexual harassment or activity. If you are caught you loose your membership.
I'd need two hands to get a decent grip on your jewels in the shower, Nudie.:smile:

Hey OP by the way, after you fondled me and then you grabbed me and stuck your tongue so far down my throat I couldn't breathe! LOL!

Schwing.:biggrin1: