How's that scary, hatey thing going for ya? Recession recovery moving in right direct

[Louberg83]

She never loses her cool because she is a professional, and in being a professional is an expert at operating in the boundaries of the terms of service. I've lashed out at her and she never lashed out back, which is just typical of her modus operandi.

I personally can't stand it when people resort to personal attacks in trying to make their argument. Whether or not Trinity is a professional is irrelevant, everyone should have some respect for other members. I read this this whole thread and talltpaguy has ruined any credibility with me from this thread alone. How many times can you call someone a troll, threaten that they will get banned, call them bitchy? Stick to the facts and you will be much more persuasive.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^We ARE sticking to the facts. If you actually read the thread, it's abundantly clear who destroyed it by sidetracking it with irrelevant nonsense and then repeating those same lies over and over and over, despite have been repeatedly proven false.

Wrong. It is amazing how much free time you have to sit around posting crass references, cursing, name calling and campaigns for "ref" intervention in a political forum because you lack the intelligence to hold your own in a political discussion.

You're damn right I have a lot of free time. That's what happens when you work hard and make enough money to pay everything off and sit back and collect a few thousand dollars a month in profits, from perhaps 10-15hours a week of 'work'.

Don't be a hater. If you're a good enough shill, maybe someday you can get a job mashing out blog entries for a few bucks a pop. lol

 

[Northland]

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Clearly, there is no point responding to someone who claims to know it all, and will refuse to acknowledge any fact that diminishes the fantasies you have conjured up in your feeble mind. Go peddle your bullshit some place else Trinity. We're done having a laugh at your pathetic, repetitive lies around here.

And yet you kept responding...quite a few times in fact.

(ps... You might want to take note that pretty soon, your brand of trolling is going to be expressly forbidden here. Maybe you should leave now, instead of getting banned in disgrace later)

Yawn.

^lololololol

Such an informative post.

^lololololol... and up pops the troll, lying her ass off, as usual.

+290,000 is the NET change for the month.

But hey, thanks for the laughs, and thanks for proving that you're as dishonest and ignorant as ever.

^lololololol... Keep trolling the forum, liar.

^Still trolling I see... lolololololol

Yawn...yet another (un)informative pious post.

^I have a better idea. How about I refuse to be intimidated by your endless trolling, keep posting actual unedited reports directly from the BLS, and if you don't like it, you can suck my big fat fucking cock.

Yesm, that certainly validates whatever you are attempting to say. Stick with facts, don't stoop to name calling, it negates any valid points you may be entering.

lololololol... newsflash for the troll, who apparently can't even remember what her own bitching is about from one day to the next... YOU were the one questioning the BLS' CES report detailed in the OP of this thread, which tallied up a net creation of +290,000 jobs for April2010...
http://www.lpsg.org/2757507-post20.html
http://www.lpsg.org/2763597-post38.html
http://www.lpsg.org/2763930-post42.html
http://www.lpsg.org/2764533-post47.html
http://www.lpsg.org/2764933-post49.html




I am the one who added on to the thread by detailing the BLS' CPS report, which shows an even greater net increase in job for April 2010, than the CES report did.
http://www.lpsg.org/2765016-post50.html


Keep trolling, and I'll gladly keep having a blast calling you out, bitch! lololololol

It's entirely possible that she's actually so ignorant that she didn't know that the jobs number reported each month is a 'product' derived from a simple calculation of the total hires and total separations for the month... Maybe she literally thinks that only 290,000 Americans started working at a new job last month. Concurrently, it's possible that she is also ignorant enough to believe that in months where a negative job number is reported, that literally not a single American got hired anywhere in the country. You have to remember who you are dealing with; Trinity has a well established history of acting confused, angered, and frustrated by even the simplest of concepts... For all we know, she's is mentally handicapped, or dropped out of school after the 6th grade.

Of course, I personally consider it much, much, much more likely that she either enjoys obfuscating such discussions because she suffers from some sort of personality disorder, as I have hypothesized recently, or is paid by political interests to troll forums like this one. (I have busted several such people over the years on my own websites)

Maybe someday, the moderation staff will finally clue in and ban the troll, but in the mean time, I'm having a blast running her around in circles and exposing her for the lying, trolling bitch that she is.

How nice, two for the price of one- do the Troll call again (twice in one post) and blast the moderators. How adult of you.

lolololololol... Keep trolling, because we all know it's the only thing you're capable of.





If you have a problem with the different surveys the BLS does producing different results, take it up with the BLS... I'm sure they would have a blast laughing you off the phone.

And what are YOU capable of tallpaguy?

I clearly stated in my post with the reporting of 1,319,000 jobs being created that it was from the BLS' HOUSEHOLD REPORT. I also clearly linked to the actual BLS' HOUSEHOLD REPORT, as well as a news article detailing the BLS' HOUSEHOLD REPORT...

http://www.lpsg.org/2765016-post50.html

I suggest you stop trolling the thread, because it's getting pretty blatant at this point.

Yes, well going around after Triniity dozens of times in one thread, sometimes only to say 'troll lol' is equally blatant.

^Yes Trinity, keep trolling... lolololololol



The better question is, why does the moderation staff continue to grant access to someone who clearly is not here to add anything to the community, but is instead here to bully it and destroy it.
Apparently, her new trick is to say that people are "contradicting" themselves, when all they are doing is sharing additional information with the forum, that is 100% relevant to the topic being discussed. (She brought up irrelevant 'layoff numbers', so I brought up yet more 'job creation' numbers as a response to bring the thread back on topic.)

We all know that even Trinity isn't so stupid as to not know that BLS produces two different job market surveys every month, and that those two surveys consistently produce differing results. Clearly, her opposition to what I have posted, is due to the fact that what I posted refutes her false assertions in unmistakable terms. I called her out and then methodically used the facts to prove how she was wrong. That she is doggedly persistent in trying to re-assert the same falsehoods shows how when she loses a debate, she then tries her damnedest to bully people here and drive them out of threads and eventually out of the forum all together.

It should beyond obvious now that she is blatantly trolling this thread. There is literally no other reason she would act the way she is acting. Not even 'crazy' people act like this, only outright assholes who are intent on destroying constructive discussion do... The question now is, will the moderation staff FINALLY do this community a favor and remove her, or will they allow this precedent of blatant trolling to stand, thereby establishing a pattern of behavior that will now be acceptable for all members to utilize? I certainly hope for the former, not the latter.

Again with blasting the moderators and staff, so proper of you.

But we know you already knew that. You're just trolling the thread, trying to bully everyone into accepting your lies as fact, or leaving the discussion in disgust.



But we know you already knew that. You're just trolling the thread, trying to bully everyone into accepting your lies as fact, or leaving the discussion in disgust.



I have explained the different results numerous times now, and linked to their original source, and broken down the actual computations used to derive the results.

But we know you already knew that. You're just trolling the thread, trying to bully everyone into accepting your lies as fact, or leaving the discussion in disgust.
Like I've said before, you keep spewing the same trolling bullshit, and I'll keep calling you out.

Call Trinity out. By all means do so; but do it factually. In the above post, you repeated a statement 3 times, calling Trinity a troll- are you any better than that? Your behavior is equally trollish, especially since at the start you advised 'there is no point responding...'

^Still trolling I see... lolololololol.

^yet more of the same trolling.

I bet it sucks when you get outed and have to find a new place to troll with your endless political bullshit, doesn't it? You better pray that they don't do what I do to polititrolls, which is delete their entire post history...

I personally can't stand it when people resort to personal attacks in trying to make their argument. Whether or not Trinity is a professional is irrelevant, everyone should have some respect for other members. I read this this whole thread and talltpaguy has ruined any credibility with me from this thread alone. How many times can you call someone a troll, threaten that they will get banned, call them bitchy? Stick to the facts and you will be much more persuasive.

Well said. However as we know, tallpaguy is the grand poohbah of forumtrum. He moderates and part owns sites therefore he can call people 'trolls' to his hearts content.

I disagree. As part owner of one very large forum which is active in certain aspects of local grassroots politics, and operator of a couple of other apolitical forums which host political discussions as a kind of 'bonus' for contributing members, I have dealt with these kinds of people for several years now. I can spot these people a mile away. And on my sites, I have successfully eliminated them to the point that when they do manage to register to the site, they make no more than a handful of posts before being banned... My guess is that the operators of this site either haven't dealt with such polititrolls before, or weren't aware that they were being snookered by such polititrolls before.

Something to remember is that the owners of websites have no duty to grant membership to anyone. That Trinity is effective at 'skirting' the ToS is irrelevant. The operators of this site can revoke the membership of any person at any time for any reason, or even no reason at all. As is the case with the owner of any business, they are within their rights to do whatever they believe creates the best environment for their business to operate, so long as they are within the bounds of the law. And trust me, it is absolutely not illegal to ban a destructive presence like Trinity, even if Trinity had in fact paid for the 'Gold Membership' here.

Again, you slam the moderators- why? Because they operate this place in a manner different from the places you allegedly rule over? Throughout this thread, you have exhibited the same sort of behaviors which you claim would not be allowed at your websites, then you slam the mods and this site.


You make many valid and interesting posts tallpaguy, please stay with those instead of veering off in the insipid game of Troll-nabbing.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

please stay with those instead of veering off in the insipid game of Troll-nabbing.

So, when someone starts 106 threads and has 90% of them in one section, with OPs cleverly worded to poke at the same source over and over again (including a signature file that does the same), and makes at average 9.57 posts a day arguing with multiple people in only the threads they created and issues insults at the same time, that doesn't count as trolling?

Gee, I had no idea that my cyber dictionary was that outdated. When was the term redefined?

 

[Trinity]

So, when someone starts 106 threads and has 90% of them in one section, with OPs cleverly worded to poke at the same source over and over again (including a signature file that does the same), and makes at average 9.57 posts a day arguing with multiple people in only the threads they created and issues insults at the same time, that doesn't count as trolling?

Gee, I had no idea that my cyber dictionary was that outdated. When was the term redefined?

You are paranoid. If someone chooses to post exclusively in the Women's Issues forum are they trolling? No. With the number of posts started in the Politics forum by Obama supporters with the words "Teabaggers, KKKrazy, Right-Wing Hypocrite and Crazy Ass Republicans..." you really can't be talking about the wording of OP's. What does my signature have to do with anything? Do you get to dictate everyone's signature file?

I post in other people's threads and I continue the discussion I start in my own. This is a political discussion forum. If you feel it is arguing then perhaps you've missed the point yet again.

You appear to be so obsessed with what I post, how I post and how many times I post... that you appear to be what you are calling others.

Perhaps you should discuss the political issues.:wink:

 

[Northland]

So, when someone starts 106 threads and has 90% of them in one section, with OPs cleverly worded to poke at the same source over and over again (including a signature file that does the same), and makes at average 9.57 posts a day arguing with multiple people in only the threads they created and issues insults at the same time, that doesn't count as trolling?

Gee, I had no idea that my cyber dictionary was that outdated. When was the term redefined?

The point here- try to stay with this- was that instead of constantly shouting 'troll' at every turn in the road, stick with posting a rebuttal against the person.

My final statement was:

You make many valid and interesting posts tallpaguy, please stay with those instead of veering off in the insipid game of Troll-nabbing.

Are you indicating VB that it is better to invest and thus infest an entire thread with shouts of 'Troll!' in each response? That diminishes, often fully negates whatever power may have existed in the main text.

Further, look back at the posts which tallpaguy made which I quoted, in some he made no effort to even add a thought, it was all 'troll'' and 'lol'. I ask you, what does that add to or contriibute to the thread? It merely serves as disruption and is a large part of why the Politics thread is so often useless. Good posts, wise comments become burried within shouts of 'troll' (and not just from tallpaguy, as you yourself well know) and name calling. Is that what you want this section to be, a schoolyard bullying? tallpaguy accuses Trinity of bullying, yet does it himself- just how is that to help?

 

[TomCat84]

I don't think Trinity really fits the definition of troll anyway. Is she exceedingly annoying? Yes, because she seems incapable of acknowledging that others may have a legitimate viewpoint, which is why I try and avoid responding to her. It's pointless. But trolling? No, not really, and I'm guessing that's why she remains unbanned.

 

[slurper_la]

i've said it many times before but it deserves repeating... if we just IGNORE the trolls they will fade away.

every word, every sentence, every argument in every post aimed at calling out the troll is mother's milk to it. stop feeding it and it will die.

ignore ignore ignore ignore ignore ignore ignore

 

[sbat]

Jesus.

Employment numbers by themselves are meaningless. Who is creating the jobs? Where are the jobs being lost? Who is being hired? What is their pay? What is the expected output for the income of each job? If McDonald's hires 3 million people in the next month, it will skew the employment numbers to show a net gain in hiring. But if all these hires are making minimum wage and the money is going straight back to McDonald's, what is the actual benefit in terms of Net Domestic Product (not GDP, which ignores differences in the types of output ...new investment vs replacement investment).

So this utterly ridiculous argument b/w Trinity and Tallpaguy just demonstrates the pointlessness of statistics without an explanation or understanding of the underlying economics.

I can't believe you guys had upwards of 40 posts between the two of you arguing about where the numbers come from. If Trinity is a troll, tallpaguy is a troll-baiter. Equally useless in a forum discussion.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Northland: The reason why people constantly refer to him/her as a troll is because we know that every post it creates is deliberately, intellectually dishonest. Even if there's a sliver of credibility in a few words of the post, we all know Trinity's real motives is to poke at anyone who supports or voted for Obama. It is disgruntled that Hillary Clinton didn't get the Democratic nomination for whatever reason, whether it be a woman just wanted to see a woman win the election or because it's a closeted Conservative who has taken the concept of Operation Chaos to extreme levels.

Perhaps after the first 50 threads it started, we would have reason to believe that Trinity is just sharing an opinion. But as we now approach its 100th Political thread in two years, anyone can see that it is now beyond an ideology or a simple belief. It is an agenda, plain & simple... and everyone is sick of it.

Nobody disagrees or hates Trinity because of her beliefs. Case in point... Notice how you sometimes agree with her, yet nobody is calling you a troll. The mass majority of people are just sick of it repeating the same thing over, and over, and over and over again. We know it hates Obama and the current administration. However, nobody needs 96 more threads about Obamacare, Unemployment or Birthergate to know otherwise... nor does it need to try and make every negative thing that happens in government a game of "Six Degrees Of Separation to a Kenyan, Muslim, Fascist, Socialist, Teleprompter Reading Negro" either.

 

[slurper_la]

...The mass majority of people are just sick of it repeating the same thing over, and over, and over and over again...

yet you continue to engage it!

VB you know I love you. We are simpatico in just about all points of view, political and otherwise but as far as T3 goes... (that's, The Trinity Troll)... please, I'm begging you... :bryce:


You are like a dog with a bone. You won't let it go.

I still love ya babe :tongue:

PS: this goes for talltpguy too, but with extra kisses :smlove2:

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[B_VinylBoy]

yet you continue to engage it!

VB you know I love you. We are simpatico in just about all points of view, political and otherwise but as far as T3 goes... (that's, The Trinity Troll)... please, I'm begging you... :bryce:


You are like a dog with a bone. You won't let it go.

I still love ya babe :tongue:

PS: this goes for talltpguy too, but with extra kisses :smlove2:

.

Actually, this time I'm not engaging it. I rarely question it on anything these days because I already know what it's gonna say.

However, several other people that I do respect still debate with it and unless I want to put everyone that uses the word "Trinity" in their posts on ignore so that I no longer see any trace of the entity in any shape or form, then there's no way anyone can truly avoid it. My responses have been to Northland, even if the subject matter is about "it".

And next time you call me a bitch, make sure you're spanking me as well. Deal? :biggrin:

 

[slurper_la]

...And next time you call me a bitch, make sure you're spanking me as well. Deal? :biggrin:

well my hand was all red and throbbing, if spanking you didn't cause that condition I wonder what.......... oh... ummmm.........

never mind :redface:

 

[B_talltpaguy]

My last remark on this matter... If Trinity can post nothing but cynical/negative/agenda-driven rants designed to piss off others of an opposing viewpoint 24/7 then so can everyone else.

 

[lurker37160]

Yeah, the economy is great. I've lost 10% of my 401K in the past two weeks.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Yeah, the economy is great. I've lost 10% of my 401K in the past two weeks.

I lost money in mine too, however, my freelance business is booming right now. Perhaps the way one views the economy is purely dependent on one's options? I certainly wouldn't say it's "great", but I'm not as panic stricken as others.

 

[JTalbain]

Yeah, the economy is great. I've lost 10% of my 401K in the past two weeks.

I lost money in mine too, however, my freelance business is booming right now. Perhaps the way one views the economy is purely dependent on one's options? I certainly wouldn't say it's "great", but I'm not as panic stricken as others.

Totally a Rich Dad, Poor Dad situation here. There is always money moving somewhere. The problem with savings and investments is that you tie your financial well being to the decisions and fortunes of others. Assuming the risk of being the business owner is where the real money is.

This also kinda reminded me of an anecdote from my Business Law professor. He used to work for a florist that had operated in the same location for a number of decades. When my prof did the math, he realized that he had even been operating during the Great Depression. Figuring that flowers are a fairly wasteful use of money and people would stop buying them if times were tough, he asked the guy whether business was hard or whatnot during that time. The answer was "No" because "Even in the Great Depression, there were always people with money, and the people with money always bought roses." Kinda turns the concept of elastic demand on its head, doesn't it?

 

[B_talltpaguy]

Totally a Rich Dad, Poor Dad situation here.

Everyone needs a sugar daddy! (or in my case, a sugar momma)

 

[sbat]

Totally a Rich Dad, Poor Dad situation here. There is always money moving somewhere. The problem with savings and investments is that you tie your financial well being to the decisions and fortunes of others. Assuming the risk of being the business owner is where the real money is.

This also kinda reminded me of an anecdote from my Business Law professor. He used to work for a florist that had operated in the same location for a number of decades. When my prof did the math, he realized that he had even been operating during the Great Depression. Figuring that flowers are a fairly wasteful use of money and people would stop buying them if times were tough, he asked the guy whether business was hard or whatnot during that time. The answer was "No" because "Even in the Great Depression, there were always people with money, and the people with money always bought roses." Kinda turns the concept of elastic demand on its head, doesn't it?

True that.