Huge cock on ROME

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Originally posted by MsLulu@Oct 17 2005, 05:14 AM
The best part of that episode:

"Well everyone likes big dick!"

Have to love Atia.

The show rocks, any way ya slice it.
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Well, good to see that TV hasn't changed since the last time I turned it on. Historically Inaccurate as ever.

Small penises were considered beautiful in the Roman Culture, anything big was considered laugh worthy.
 

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Originally posted by The_One@Oct 17 2005, 01:23 AM
Well, good to see that TV hasn't changed since the last time I turned it on. Historically Inaccurate as ever.

Small penises were considered beautiful in the Roman Culture, anything big was considered laugh worthy.
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Do you have a source for this? I seem to recall that when the city of Pompeii was excavated, the archaeologists were struck by the erotic artwork, so I looked up an article in Wikipedia, which says:

When the serious excavation of Pompeii began in the 18th century, a clash of the cultures was the result. A fresco on a wall that showed the ancient god of sex and fertility, Priapus with his extremely enlarged penis, was covered with plaster and only rediscovered because of rainfall in 1998. In 1819, when king Francis I of Naples visited the exhibition at the National Museum with his wife and daughter, he was so embarrassed by the erotic artwork that he decided to have it locked away in a secret cabinet, accessible only to "people of mature age and respected morals." Re-opened, closed, re-opened again and then closed again for nearly 100 years, it was made briefly accessible again at the end of the 1960s (the time of the sexual revolution) and has finally been re-opened in the year 2000. Minors are not allowed entry to the once secret cabinet without a guardian or a written permission.

It should not be surprising that Priapus was depicted with a large penis, but Mercury, Pan, and other characters were as well.

Here is an ornamental brick featuring a large penis and the inscription "Happiness Resides Here".

(In fairness, I'll link to this illustration of a soldier with a small penis -- apparently, both size extremes were considered worthy of depiction.)
 

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Thank you, mindseye, for the unadulterated proof of the exalted place of the large phallus in Roman culture. Humongous might be a better description, however, after viewing the one on Priapus and the others you cite. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words, my friend.

Luke
 

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Does it mean anything that the gods were depicted with huge penises and the mortals (soldier) with small ones? I qualify as a soldier, in my flaccid state.
 

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One: Actually you are confusing Greece with Rome. The Greeks found large penises aesthetically repulsive (used on satyrs and grotesque characters). Small penises were the ideal of Greek art. The Romans, however, were size queens. Romans equated a large penis with virility, masculinity, etc.--all essential Roman virtues.
 

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Originally posted by bnabottom1@Oct 18 2005, 02:19 AM
One: Actually you are confusing Greece with Rome. The Greeks found large penises aesthetically repulsive (used on satyrs and grotesque characters). Small penises were the ideal of Greek art. The Romans, however, were size queens. Romans equated a large penis with virility, masculinity, etc.--all essential Roman virtues.
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bna is right. Although the Romans adopted much of Greek culture, it cannot be assumed that they shared every facet of Greek aesthetic ideals. Plus, "Rome" is set at the time of the late Roman Republic, many generations removed from classical Athens and a time of much degeneration in terms of art and culture. Not to mention that even with the Greeks, it is probably a logical leap to assume that the artistic ideal of handsome young men with small penises--in works of art created by male artists, most likely of average-size endowment--necessarily reflects that ancient women would find men with large penises undesirable sex partners.

Basically, there have probably been "size queens" in every human age and culture, and the idea that a sexually charged individual Roman woman might find a well endowed slave especially exciting is not a major historical inaccuracy.

However--and I know this is going to be a minority opinion here--my reaction to the Rome "large penis" episode is that it was just one more big example of a trend in cable TV shows that bothers me--full frontal male nudity that is just totally gratuitous. Penises have just been cropping up all over cable TV in recent years (most notably, perhaps, in "Oz") and usually it just strikes me as so forced and unnecessary to the story that it is a distraction. Rather than advancing the plot in an artistic way, it's just the TV people saying, "Hey, look at us, look what we can get away with! Look, it's a penis!!!"

Another example was an earlier episode of "Rome" where Mark Antony's penis was on display for several minutes. (For those who are counting, it looked a very respectable size, though not huge.) The scene just involved a conversation between two men. There was no particular dramatic reason it had to take place while he was being scrubbed by slaves while standing nude in a courtyard, just an excuse to have his penis be seen on the show. (Interestingly, the actor who plays Vorenus--one of the main characters--seems to go to great lengths to keep his penis from being seen, even in like a bath house scene where it would have been very natural to at least give a flash of it. Makes me wonder if he is especially small or maybe just cut, which would be historically inaccurate for a non-Jewish Roman.)
 

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How wild.. lol

I guess I'm missing quite a bit since HBO (and Showtime, coincidentally) quit working on my cable.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were fake, and with that decorative thing holding up the prosthetic. Either way, I would have never expected to see penises on TV outside of rain forest documentaries, especially with decoration.
 

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That thing is not that big. Well...okay, it is big, but it is not that huge.
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PFFFFT!

yeah.. right.. you are either blind, retarded, an egomaniac, or you feel threatened.
because that is, without a doubt, a huge penis... maybe you have a bigger one.. but that just means yours is super huge... it doesnt make his smaller..

silly size queens.. honestly!
 
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Ya know in Roman times large penes were seen as undesirable for men to have and often used in theatre as comic relief

How times have changed...
 

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I thought the Romans were okay with the large penis -- it was the Ancient Greeks that had a problem. If I remember, the Ancient Greeks thought a large penis was more animal like, therefore less than human. I'll have to brush up on some books from college to be sure, though.
 

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Ya know in Roman times large penes were seen as undesirable for men to have and often used in theatre as comic relief

How times have changed...
Zzingerific said:
I thought the Romans were okay with the large penis -- it was the Ancient Greeks that had a problem. If I remember, the Ancient Greeks thought a large penis was more animal like, therefore less than human. I'll have to brush up on some books from college to be sure, though.
If you read (not all that far) back in this thread you would see that this has been discussed at length (sic). Unless you two are both in a conspiracy of irony.:wink: