With all due respect Phil.... what the fuck are you talking about? Are you suggesting that women 'fall in' to the toilet?
Y'know most women say they "fell in" when they are surprised to find the seat up..
The thing is one doesn't back up to the toilet to use it - one walks towards it and cannot help but observe if the seat is up or down, I believe many women just object to having to flick it down.
Bull. Women object because they often back up without looking and sit on the thing and "discover' the seat's not up the icky way.
And, honestly- I back up to the thing, too, if that's my business... but I learned long ago to LOOK first... and on those occasions, late at nite, when I am stumbling around in the dark... I ALWAYS
feel ahead as I lower myself to make sure I don't find out the icky way.
The whole crux of this being infamous as a Man/Woman issue is the simple fact that women don't check first to make sure they don't sit on a piss splattered rim.
Instead of taking repsonsibility for their OWN ass... they instead pitch a fit about how EVERY OTHER PERSON has to accommodate their needs and "Pre-set" the toilet for their use.
They "claim" its an issue of consideration for others... but, really, since 3/4s of the time men need to LIFT the seat and then put it back down, it sure as hell isn't considerate of our needs or use.
The final analysis is the difference in perspective.
Women want everyone to do for other ( laudable) and especially to watch out for THEM.
And they reserve the right to castigate men for NOT doing as they dictate.
Men think that would be nice if everyone did for others, but that to RELY on them doing so to keep your own ass out of the ick is irresponsible and bound to fail.
No man has ever yelled at a woman for leaving it up or down, because men take responsibility for their own ass.
Perhaps they think it is unsanitary. Personally I prefer to leave the lid down, so I have to flick it up before I sit - so it makes no odds to me really if I am flicking up or down. :dunno:
you are a rare woman.
See above - unless you back up to the toilet you have to be pretty fucking unobservant not to notice what position the seat is in!! :duh:
That's the whole point. But again, its an issue so common that its been the fodder of comedians for generations... and is the subject of t-shirts and marriage counseling book chapters.
to wit:
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Plumbing Cartoons by T. McCracken
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