Hundreds stuck in London Tube derailment

[dong20]

I know we have a few Londoners here, hope all are well and were not involved in this. Thankfully, nobody was seriously hurt.

BBC NEWS | England | London | Hundreds stuck in Tube derailment

 

[wingnut84]

Fucked up

 

[9inchcanadian]

Whats "Fucked up" is that the government sold the fucking thing in the first place. before the public private partnership was introduced working practices in engineering hours were incomprehensibly more stringent.deadlines less ridiculous and the workforce trained by men and women that had done he job for decades. Now its all sub-contracted to the lowest bidder sometimes going to engineering companys that have never even worked with similar systems.Parts of the network are over 130 years old, they require specialist care and attention. imagine sending barratt homes to fix st. pauls cathedral and you know what i mean.
I was a station controller at Canary Wharf station for 6 years. We were lucky to be brand new and suffered very few of the problems the rest of the network encounters. Even so whenever work did need to be done the quality of the manpower was questionable to say the least.
Oh on the note of Canary Wharf if any of you guys work there or use teh station keep an ear out for a message that says "Ladies and Gentlemen, there is a good service from canary wharf and to all destinations on the Jubilee line"
Thats me!!!!!
Sweet they still play me after i left over a year ago

 

[dong20]

Oh on the note of Canary Wharf if any of you guys work there or use teh station keep an ear out for a message that says "Ladies and Gentlemen, there is a good service from canary wharf and to all destinations on the Jubilee line"
Thats me!!!!!
Sweet they still play me after i left over a year ago

Never heard it.....can you guess why....? :tongue:

(just teasing) :biggrin1:

 

[9inchcanadian]

Never heard it.....can you guess why....? :tongue:

(just teasing) :biggrin1:

I know your`e just teasing and since i no longer work for them wouldn`t care either way, but it really is a common misconception that there are always delays on the tube. in fact the average train is 98% on time all the time. the main problems are the passengers holding up the trains at peak times. Which is where the 2% comes in. if you have ever gone to a station at say 1400hrs you will more than likely only have waited 2 minutes as there are very few others getting on.
During my time with the tube i saw a really ugly side to humanity.
One certain time came just a few months into my job. I was standing on the gateline having a chat with a colleague about a ticket or something. it was about half past 9 and we were still pretty busy from the morning rush hour. I heard a loud bang, Then a scream, then several screams. I ran toward the source of the bang to find a young man had jumped from the top of the main escalators to the ticket hall, this is a drop of about 50 feet onto solid granite flooring. I was the first to the guy who was still alive. My colleague cleared the area of passengers and an evacuation was started to empty the station. In the meantime i was doing my first aid assesment as was taught to me when i joined.Just by light touching and visual observation I noted that the guy had multiple skull fractures 2 broken arms 2 broken shoulders(both shoulders were on the left side!) many broken ribs and broken hip/pelvis. The guys legs were not damaged as his upper body hit first. By the time i had done this blood started to pour from both ears and his mouth. i could hear him choking on his blood and attempted to clear his airway. I was lucky enough to have a doctor and off duty nurse take over ater that until the paramedics arrived. While tis was going on as i mentioned before the station was being evacuated i walked away from the scene to help and to try to clean up (my hands and uniform were quite bloodstained) As i walked away a chap in a suit approached me. I was expecting a question on how to get to wherever he was going. He looked me up and down and asked me "So why are we being sent out" I pointed about 8 yards away to my left at the young guy dying on the floor and said we needed to close because of an attempted suicide. The suited chap responed with " why the fuck do you need to stop all the trains when some prick kills himself at the other end of the station, i have a meeting to get to!"
This was the first time in my life i had ever encountered this level of selfishness. Standing there in front of him with a dying guys blood all over me he still wanted to have an argument with me about why he could not get his train. Im glad to say i just walked away. I washed up got changed and went back to work. we opened 2 hours later after the cleanup crew had finished.
The young guy died in hospital 3 hours later when his spleen ruptured he was 25, an australian accountant who had a bad audit.
I met his dad the following week who thanked me for trying to save his sons life. i would have liekd the business man to have been there. Im sure the young guys dad would not have walked away from such comments.

 

[dong20]

I know, I take the tube most days and for the most part there are no problems, other than increasing overcrowding. I've seen my fair share of quite incredible behaviour, not so long ago I thought a bloke was about to punch this young woman simply for not moving out if his way in the aisle (she simply didn't hear him ask her to move apparently)...unreal.

You must have seen some horrible things, I'm sorry you get to see the dross along with the diamonds. I think the frustration from delays etc spills over onto LU staff and it must be very stressful.

As for the Australian; well it seems to me that killing onself over an audit seems an extreme overreaction but if people want to commit suicide that's up to them. Nevertheless, doing it that way was, I'm afraid to me a shitty and selfish thing to do, young kids etc could have witnessed it, imagine the effect on them of seeing that, never mind what he put you through.

You're better of out of it I'd say.

 

[DaveyR]

Having travelled into London for work a couple of times a week in the past I can't say that I'm surprised by your story 9inchCanadian. I was glad to get the hell out of it all.

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

Actually, fuck businessmen on the tube. Full stop. I swear, some people are wearing a suit to compensate for low IQ and teeny-tiny penis size.

 

[Cobalt Blue]

Whats "Fucked up" is that the government sold the fucking thing in the first place. before the public private partnership was introduced working practices in engineering hours were incomprehensibly more stringent.deadlines less ridiculous and the workforce trained by men and women that had done he job for decades. Now its all sub-contracted to the lowest bidder sometimes going to engineering companys that have never even worked with similar systems.Parts of the network are over 130 years old, they require specialist care and attention. imagine sending barratt homes to fix st. pauls cathedral and you know what i mean.

Absolutely. Today Metronet, the company which caused the derailment on 5 July, has called in the administrators amid serious financial problems.
It has emerged that Metronet was warned more than seven weeks ago about the problem which caused the crash, but failed to take the necessary action. The firm admitted that it owned the roll of heavy industrial plastic sheeting which was hit by a train in the tunnel between Mile End and Bethnal Green. The roll had been left too near the track and became caught in the train wheels, sending the first two of the eight carriages off the line.
Concerns about materials left too close to the track were raised by Tube chiefs at the end of May. In a strongly-worded written warning they said they had been a series of incidents involving the "inappropriate storage of materials and equipment".
Responsible for the upkeep of nine tube lines, including the Bakerloo, Victoria and Central, Metronet was hired under a private-public financing initiative, a brainchild of Gordon Brown when he was chancellor. The warnings of compromising Tube safety by using private companies to undertake public works were not heeded, with tragic results.
London Underground, already the most expensive public transport system in the world, and constantly under threat from Islamic terrorists, cannot afford any further deterioration to it's appalling safety record.
I for one, refuse to use the underground under any circumstances, and although I take my life in my hands every time I cycle in traffic-choked London, the risk is preferable to being killed by either Jihadists or incompetent and greedy maintenance contractors hundreds of metres underneath the city streets.

 

[dong20]

Absolutely. Today Metronet, the company which caused the derailment on 5 July, has called in the administrators amid serious financial problems.
It has emerged that Metronet was warned more than seven weeks ago about the problem which caused the crash, but failed to take the necessary action. The firm admitted that it owned the roll of heavy industrial plastic sheeting which was hit by a train in the tunnel between Mile End and Bethnal Green. The roll had been left too near the track and became caught in the train wheels, sending the first two of the eight carriages off the line.
Concerns about materials left too close to the track were raised by Tube chiefs at the end of May. In a strongly-worded written warning they said they had been a series of incidents involving the "inappropriate storage of materials and equipment".
Responsible for the upkeep of nine tube lines, including the Bakerloo, Victoria and Central, Metronet was hired under a private-public financing initiative, a brainchild of Gordon Brown when he was chancellor. The warnings of compromising Tube safety by using private companies to undertake public works were not heeded, with tragic results.
London Underground, already the most expensive public transport system in the world, and constantly under threat from Islamic terrorists, cannot afford any further deterioration to it's appalling safety record.
I for one, refuse to use the underground under any circumstances, and although I take my life in my hands every time I cycle in traffic-choked London, the risk is preferable to being killed by either Jihadists or incompetent and greedy maintenance contractors hundreds of metres underneath the city streets.

I would agree with most of what you say other than the bold, which is simply wrong. LU's safety record is quite the reverse of appalling.

 

[9inchcanadian]

I would agree with most of what you say other than the bold, which is simply wrong. LU's safety record is quite the reverse of appalling.

I would agree with that statement whole heartedly
before 2002 there were very few of non suicide related deaths.
London Underground accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
gives an excellent detailed account of all the issues over the last 150 years
yes i said ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS

 

[rawbone8]

I would agree with that statement whole heartedly
before 2002 there were very few of non suicide related deaths.
London Underground accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
gives an excellent detailed account of all the issues over the last 150 years
yes i said ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS

Yes, that's an impressive record of service.

As an aside, I can never understand why some parents in Toronto take their young, enthused children (usually boys) to the seat at the front of the first carriage. The odds are always somewhat there (even if remote) for an unforgettable tragedy like a jumper occuring. It's not a roller coaster.