Quotes are not working properly and I don't have the time to try and fix it right now, sorry ;/
It must be comforting to pick me apart my words like a CSI investigator. Unfortunately, when one does that the bigger picture and meaning is lost. Everyone knows the saying, "if a tree falls in dthe forrest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound." Dont forsake the forest for the individual leaves. Be more open minded and more supportive of MY believes.
Deconstruction: This term refers to a process of reading texts, literary and non-literary. ... In a deconstructive reading of a poem or novel, the critic does not seek to demonstrate how parts of the text--its form and content--wwork harmoniously togeather to form a whole. Instead, the deconstructive critic carefully examines the text's rhetoric, its arrangement, its style, and its "logic" to show how the text's rhetoric masks or glosses over contradictions or gaps in the logic in the text. Such an approach demonstrates that the notion of artistic wholeness is a fantasy. The close textual analysis of deconstruction does not destroy a text. (Becky McLaughlin, B. Coleman. from Everyday Theory. Glossary definition of 'Deconstruction'
I also strongly reccomend a writing by Luce Irigaray, "I Love to You" Where in picking apart and defining the phrase, (deconstructing it) she paints a larger image of love far more beautiful than the simple phrase, and vast as the sea.
Also a speech given in 1949 by Jacques Lacan at the 16th international congress of Psychoanalysis in Zurich, titled "The Mirror Stage as Formative of the Function of the I as Revealed in Psycholoanalytic Experience"
I'm not trying to pick your words apart to lose the bigger picture, as you put it. Rather I am attempting to put the bigger picture togeather because you've proven again and again that your unable to do it. You say one thing, and then contradict yourself in the next breath, there is no consistancy in in your form.
You claim to not want to discuss your religon, yet you keep coming back to the religious conversations. You condem others for the same acts that you preform/have preformed, yet you side step from the issue that in doing so you have condemned yourself. You tell others they are of poor morality, or imply that they should feel as such, then turn around and say thats not at all what you were saying.
I mentioned that i didnt want to discuss religion in depth because i am not an expert.
Then perhaps you would be best off not to bring it up. I think the discussion would do you, and possably others, well. However, if you are as unwilling to hear, understand,and accept the thoughts of others, then perhaps it would be best for you to maintain silence. Also, if you feel that your not an expert then where do you get off telling people how they should feel about themselves and various aspects of their lives?
I also said in my 2nd post in the porn thread that i understand the differences in believes of each person and everyone is entitled to their believes. As thinking adults it is obvious i am saying that but not if you take it out of context.
Yes, then your third post you were right back to judging others, DMW in particular, in your post you said:
"DMW many times i type lower case and often times misspell and use fragmented sentences...i dont dislike you (horse does but that is his issue) i enjoy reading your posts but sometimes you do annoy me, so what?...i have an overbearing personality sometimes but that is because of my drive and convictions and i make no apologies for it...i am a 'learning' man and i when something is valid i listen to it...you are wrong about morality and that is the trouble with americans--morality is not subjective--the word of god is not subjective--(im done posting bout religion by the way)--anyone can win an argument or support their convictions -- dmw if i appear to oppose you it should be a compliement because you challenge me whereas others make me complacent or otherwise indifferent to me.--well done.
(i will probably continue to be a hungthickhead as you call me only because u make me think--peace)"
Look there ... "you are wrong about morality", says who? Thats not your call to make, who is right and who is wrong. Perhaps for YOU he's wrong, but certainly not for everyone as you infer when you say, "that is the trouble with americans". Now your also judging the rest of the country and holding everyone to your narrow views.
Aside from all that, this also demonstraits once again your amazing ability to flip flop from one viewpoint, then side step when everyone points out that you might not be entirely correct, then as soon as things cool down your back to spouting stupidity. I don't think your second post was so much honest, as it was a simple method of avoidance and trying to cover your shit with your paws like a pussy in the litter box.
as far as the inbox being full--i cleared it as soon as i was able. i had no way of knowing it would not allow more emails because i had no idea the size of the emails i was to receive. i dont know how u can fault me on this one.
Not that i'm faulting you for it, just letting you know if you are not a premium member you can only hold 10 messages in your PM box. Although after 300+ posts, I guess Zora should have thought you were a complete newbie without a clue as that which is widely reguarded as common knowledge amungst regular posters here. Ok, I wassnt going to fault you for it untill I realized you had over 300 posts to your name.
I have a platform m.z. and it is the same one as the republican party--family values. I have said something but some have chosen to ignore it for personal reasons.
My best friend has a duaghter and is an exotic dancer. She takes care of her family, including her mother, with her wages and tips. If she did not do this, she would be unable to afford to go to school, unable to make enough money supporting her family and herself, and she, her mother, and her daughter would likely be suffering quite a bit, if not dead in a ditch somewhere. THATS family values, you ignorant fuck.
these comments likes, 'dude you are not that important' etc. are not grounded. i am just one voice among millions. if someone believes in my voice fine but i believe everyone has their own minds and can make decisions for themselves. i dont think i am that important. i am no different from you or anyone else.
Yeah that sounds really nice, but I call bullshit. Once again, trying to cover your shit hoping it wont continue to stink forcing you to face it. You flat out call DMW and others "immoral" and "wrong" and then you go on to say that "this is the problem with americans", as if your not even an american yourself, but something seperate possessing the right to try and make others feel as bad about themselvs as you do. I can see you one day in a not so far off time, a preist, bare pre-teen legs on their knees, the rest of the form enshouded within the delicate folds of your robe.
i think most will agree that if we are to be adults one shouldnt name call like, "hungthickhead" or "get the stick out of your ass" or "idiot" or "drive through" or "you stick out like a sore thumb." These comments are indications of your not my ability to express our feelings. i can laugh at myself and a good joke but continual name calling is kindergarten recess. being sarcastic isnt nice either.
Again ... you do the SAME FUCKING THING and then tell everyone else that they are immature.
pride is a deadly sin you are correct. lust is also a deadly sin. Now follow my reasoning here-------dont confuse morality with ethics. these are two differnt things. people can choose their level of ethical standards and they also have the right to live their lives to a degree of morality they are comfortable with.
Its nice to hear that from you ...although i'm sure here in a few posts your flip flop again on that statement only to once again point your crooked finger at another in an attempt to cast them out of the garden. Guess what bitch, I've transcended my fall from the garden, and i'm armed to the teeth, as have many others here.
I am saying just because someone is comfortable with their level of morality doesnt make it CORRECT for SOCIETY as a WHOLE. there it is simply stated.
Nice pride, thinking you have the right to deem what is correct and what is not for society as a whole. Naturally, you've just contradicted your former statements just as I predicted you would. Society as a whole is made up of many many individuals, if you concede that each has a right to their own morals and ideas and beliefs (which is also completely opposite of your first and third posts in the porn thred), then you must also yeild to the fact that society as a whole is divided and that each group is constantly changing. You must recognize the synergetic nature of this and respect it, not condemn it.
i dont judge others for what they have chosen.
Baby cakes, thats all you've been doing as i've allready pointed out repeatedly.
if one wants to use drugs, sell their bodies, steal, murder, commit adulty i dont judge you ---i dont ACCEPT IT and the MAJORITY DOESNT EITHER.
What majority? All those conflicting personalities in your head do not count as a seperate society nor do they count as a majority.
there are consequences for decisions and i wanted to make sure those 7000 readers as m.z. points out understands that this is not a 'GOOD' thing. these porn experiences are not that great.
Some have been well rewarded for it and lived very happy lives. So for them it was a good thing, while for others it's not. Before you make a statment like that back it up with some facts. No matter what the job one chooses, there are good and bad things about it. Some jobs over all are great, and some are not. It all depends on the individual, how they act, and how they choose to view things. Just because you don't like it does not mean no one else is allowed to. You cannot just act all parental and say "No porn jobs for you, I don't like it and god hates that".
ONE might be comfortable with it and has MADE THEIR OWN PEACE with it but it STILL isnt morally accepted behavior. understand?
That is a fallacious statment if I've ever heard one. For some that is perfectly acceptable and in tune with their morals, for some it's not. You obviously can not see any futher than your own nose that you continually look down at everyone else by.
to applaud m.z. for being a bitch is not a compliment. anyone can be nasty. encouraging someone like this is not a great thing. m.z. is but one opinion and one voice. reducing oneself to a bitch is not what one should aspire to become.
It's just the hand we were dealt kitten. Were just playing strong points, intelligence, bitchyness, sarcasm, beauty, and supreme goddes like power just happen to be in our decks.
Ashlar u saying that i am in the dark ages is propaganda at best.
How do you figure? Care to ellaborate on that? No, i don't suppose you would, because you can't.
however i accept it as a compliment because it means that i hold dear good values and judgements. i am a throw back to conservatisms and i am proud of it. i am not too proud that it becomes everythign for me though.
Yes yes yes yes yes, shut the fuck up allready, we've all heard repeatedly how good your values are, how much better they are then our own, and were all sick of your judgement passing idosyncratic behavor. Nice attempted save with the "i am not too proud that it becomes everything for me though". Obviously complete bullshit.
i am well rounded and i am contented.
That remains to be seen.
i am not selfish and i am not twisting religion to excuse my lusting ways.
Ohh ... two lies for the price of one. Nice. Anyone who says they are not selfish, is lying. I allready amply made my point as you how your using religion to exuse your thoughts and behaviors, and just saying "NO IM NOT!!!" has not changed my mind a bit.
i am a work in process in the eyes of God.
That I'll agree with completely, though I think you ment to use the word "progress", or perhaps you do not progess and truely all you do is process.
i continue to seek out his Will but i dont fool myself either.
Sticking to making a fool of yourself eh?
everyone can make their choices. this is a support forum and i believe that my voice may not be the popular one but it is the devil's advocate voice.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... lookup advocate in the dictionary sometime, my pocket dictionary lists it as, "one who argues or pleads for a cause or proposal", Thus the arguements, pleads, and proposals you make belong to the devil.
*falls off chair howling with laughter*
i am the voice that will not be 'bitchy and sarcastic and popular' but i will be the voice of support and understanding.
Yeah you've gotta warp minds and brainwash wherever you can these days. Good altar boys who can suck a mean cock are getting harder and harder to come by.
oh, ashlar you tell me that jiggling my stuff has no talent. okay, does janet jackson have no talent when she dances. does madonna have no talent when she dances. does britney have no talent when she dances. does m. jackson have no talent when he dances?
Are they allmost completely naked, and if so are they in a strip club where people only go for the soul purpose of oogling flesh fully expecting to, and intenting to tip the dancer? NO!
well when i performed i didnt go nasty
Tell us oh holy one what consists of nasty in thine warm and gracious eyes.
and i didnt get semi-hards ons and that stuff.
Me either.
i did a subtle burlesque dance and i didnt do it all night long.
burlesque, v.
trans. To turn into ridicule by grotesque parody or imitation; to caricature, travesty.
from the Oxford english dictionary online.
*laughing my ass off over here*
i danced for about 10 minutes 2 times a night by choice for about 4 months. i later toned it down to one song but made on average about $50 per song (3 minutes long)--that is talent!! Dont mistake it.
No, thats pathetic. I saw a woman six months pregnant make 200$ in one 3 min long song. THATS talent.
i apologize for a long comment. but i think these discussions are necessary sometims.
No problem. There was simply more stupid there for me to pick on, pick out, and laugh at. Thanks for the morning wake up.
