Hypersexuality vs. Sexual Orientation

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Hypersexuality:The desire for human sexual behavior at levels high enough to be considered clinically significant.

It can come with varied mental illnesses or just alone. I am bipolar myself so my hypersexuality comes into play during my manic phases. The feeling is basically I need sex, I need sex, and I will actively seek it out similar to a person withdrawing searching for drugs. Now, obviously, that opens the door to: possible sex acts with either gender, group sex, and then risky sexual encounters.

My question or outloud wondering is that if this promsciousity can lead to a more open mind due to having sexual relations with the same or opposite sex can lead to shaping sexual orientation?

I.e. a self-identifying straight woman has sex with another female during an episode of mania, then starts to identify as bisexual due to the theoretical enjoyment of the act whereas she wouldn't have given it another thought in a normal mood.

I know in my mania, it's often hard to distinguish reality from non-reality as well as the weird ecstasy that comes from being in that state. I believe sexual orientation is fluid, and in no way am I stating that a mental disorder can change your sexual orientation or just because you have a mental disorder, you're swayed one way or the other. (Mainly, Homosexuality is not a mental disorder is what i'm trying to get at)

Even if you don't have any experience with hypersexuality, i'm just wondering what role hypersexuality might have in thinking or exploring one's sexuality or sexual orientation.

Thoughts, opinions, stories...?
 

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Increased experience producing a more open mind. Possible, but it would require more study...and what would you use as a control group?
 
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I'd focus on bipolar, because I'm bipolar and bisexual and mania is easy to track. Most people don't know they are in it, and your brain chemistry changes into something a normal brain will not do. Google some brain scans and you'll see what I mean.

I didn't really think about guys at all until I was having a manic episode in high school at a party and was looking for action (didn't know it at the time until later diagnosis), was buzzed on alcohol, and a guy just starting kissing me (everyone was drunk/passing out, you know, that high school party) and we ended fooling around. I enjoyed it and then basically identified as bisexual. But no feelings toward men until that point, girls galore before that and i really liked that and now I wonder did the 'high' of the state of mind and the endorphins of the fooling around/ memory of the event lead to my 'acceptance' of a repressed bisexuality or open up my sexuality to try new things?

What if I had been diagnosed earlier and was taking medicine (which is now controlling the hypersexuality part very well), would I have never had a experience like that and still identify as straight?
 

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... My question or outloud wondering is that if this promsciousity [sic] can lead to a more open mind due to having sexual relations with the same or opposite sex can lead to shaping sexual orientation? ...

I would seriously doubt that your bipolar disorder or the promiscuity that it engendered could have "shaped" your sexual orientation. But there's no doubt in my mind that it helped you "discover" that orientation. I identified as completely straight for most of my life and it was only lifestyle changes later in life that led to my experimenting and the discovery of my own bisexual capabilities.
 

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What if you in some way could have a peak sexual experience with the gender you're not normally attracted to; this in such a way that the intensity of it is inprinted in your nervous system and mind, altering your attraction?
 
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^ that's what we are getting at, Emerald_Forest. And i'm still not convinced by SilverTip
s response, mania is a complicated brain pattern that neurologists are still trying to figure out, because it's like your brain is on overload, but instead of being frustrated or shutting down at all the information stimulation- which would happen in a 'normal' brain, it produces this feeling of happy, that everything is lollipops and roses to the point of delusion. Some people have even suggested that this is an evolutionary state, so it's like the next step in human genetics (which I don't believe). Greeks prayed to have this state of mind because it was the muses or Gods bestowing creative onto you. And even from having sex, people have different viewpoints when horny and not. Guys usually get turned off after ejaculation b/c their chemical stimulation rapidly changes in the brain.

Again, I'm not trying to figure it all out, just curious (haha) and wanted to explore the neuroscience of sex.
 

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Without an actual study, it's very hard to say. With that being said, I would say that it's safe to say that when it comes to behavior with exposure to sexual stimuli it can lead to both comfort and satisfaction. These factors would depend on whether or not the experiences were pleasing and whether or not you were seeking the physical contact with another person or the end result, the orgasm.

Such as the drug example that you used, it really depends on the person. I had an ex who was also bipolar, very intelligent, and was not one to ever try drugs. The guy he dated before me introduced him to drugs such as marijuana (which is fine by me), cocaine, and crystal meth. My ex enjoyed the highs that came with crystal meth and cocaine, but what I observed that he found so satisfying were the sensations he experienced as he snorted these drugs. I once watched him snort a yellow jacket (one of those stimulants you can find at convenience stores) off of my mother's coffee table- that's how bad his addiction was. When I commented on it, he told me that he loved the burn that came with snorting stimulants.

Make sense?
 

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I would seriously doubt that your bipolar disorder or the promiscuity that it engendered could have "shaped" your sexual orientation. But there's no doubt in my mind that it helped you "discover" that orientation. I identified as completely straight for most of my life and it was only lifestyle changes later in life that led to my experimenting and the discovery of my own bisexual capabilities.

So his same-sex encounters, which he experienced due to engaging in promiscuous behaviors during episodes of mania, can't "shape" or influence his sexual-orientation. But you deciding to engage in same-sex experiences did?

Are you saying that you were always bisexual and you were just in denial or what? I want to make sure that I understand you correctly.
 

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I get so horny that I cant get enough cock and cum. Would LOVE to do a group and just get pounded over and over and over. I would LOVE to really be used and be soaked with cum and piss. GOD I am so fucking horny!!!!
 

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Hypersexuality:The desire for human sexual behavior at levels high enough to be considered clinically significant.

It can come with varied mental illnesses or just alone. I am bipolar myself so my hypersexuality comes into play during my manic phases. The feeling is basically I need sex, I need sex, and I will actively seek it out similar to a person withdrawing searching for drugs. Now, obviously, that opens the door to: possible sex acts with either gender, group sex, and then risky sexual encounters.

My question or outloud wondering is that if this promsciousity can lead to a more open mind due to having sexual relations with the same or opposite sex can lead to shaping sexual orientation?

I.e. a self-identifying straight woman has sex with another female during an episode of mania, then starts to identify as bisexual due to the theoretical enjoyment of the act whereas she wouldn't have given it another thought in a normal mood.

I know in my mania, it's often hard to distinguish reality from non-reality as well as the weird ecstasy that comes from being in that state. I believe sexual orientation is fluid, and in no way am I stating that a mental disorder can change your sexual orientation or just because you have a mental disorder, you're swayed one way or the other. (Mainly, Homosexuality is not a mental disorder is what i'm trying to get at)

Even if you don't have any experience with hypersexuality, i'm just wondering what role hypersexuality might have in thinking or exploring one's sexuality or sexual orientation.

Thoughts, opinions, stories...?

You should see your psychiatrist, srsly, whatever the impulsive compulsion is whether its gambling, spending, eating or in you case sex, it is an indication that your medication may need to be adjusted. Are you in that state now? the pressured speech, hyperness, etc.
 
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No, I'm not in that state now. And yeah, I have no idea what that random interruption was.

Dante, I was suggesting that maybe I was bisexual and just didn't realize it until the cataclysm of events. But I've always been in touch with myself so I wouldn't have denied myself experiences with other males in the past if I felt any inclination towards same sex encounters, but I didn't. And I agree with your analogy about the drugs.
 

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I wish I was more coherent right now to form a better point for discussion but it is a great topic to explore. I studied neuroscience and this is something never came up exactly but we did look at how hormone exposure can effect sexual orientation. It seems totally possible that the altered brain chemistry could influence this situation.

I am not particularly familiar with brain chemistry for people with bipolar disorder but I would think there is more dopamine during a manic phase. With it flooding the brain it could certainly help cement that experience as a positive one and start things going along that path.
 

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So his same-sex encounters, which he experienced due to engaging in promiscuous behaviors during episodes of mania, can't "shape" or influence his sexual-orientation ... ?

I'm not saying that it couldn't, only that from my own limited and non-manic experience I doubted that it did.

... But you deciding to engage in same-sex experiences did? ...

No, it did not.

... Are you saying that you were always bisexual and you were just in denial or what? I want to make sure that I understand you correctly.

I am certainly not saying that I was in denial. I am simply saying that I was always bisexual (to the limited degree that I am to this day) and simply wasn't aware of it. Believe me I most sincerely don't question your confusion and interest in trying to understand me, my situation can be very confusing to many if not most people.

You see I am not at all attracted to men and have always been attracted to women, so I really had no reason to suspect a bisexual element in my make up. That remained true until later in life when (after two marriages and two divorces) I decided to try living the single life and "played the field" so to speak. Well, in no time at all I learned that no matter how earnestly a woman might insist she was content with an NSA relationship those strings invariably came to play. There have been several notable exceptions over the past twenty years or so of my single life, wonderful ladies who were truly good friends as well as friends with benefits for me and I cherish the time that I have spent with them. But by and large I found that women were typically too much of a high maintenance effort for an egocentric man such as I who is not looking for a LTR.

And so I decided to try guys for good, clean, hedonistic sexual release. Again, not something that a lot of people could easily understand; i.e. if I have no attraction to men how on earth can I have sex with them? It's simply a matter of compartmentalizing the physical and romantic aspects of sexual activity. With women I can truly make love, but with men it's only about the physical pleasures of sexual stimulation with someone who can be a good friend but not a lover in the romantic sense. And trying that homosexual contact, "experimenting" as it were, was relatively easy for me. I was raised by parents who stressed the importance of keeping an open mind and as such I was never hindered by homophobia or a paranoid need for adherence to the "straight and narrow". To my surprise I found that I could very much enjoy homosexual contact with other men and that giving sexual pleasure to a man was just as exciting and rewarding for me as giving sexual pleasure to a woman. And I've been doing so ever since!