Hypothetical - pumping from puberty

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Could this possibly work - the benefits of mild, reasonably long pumping sessions combined with adolescent growth?

Can't see how this would be attempted in practical terms in real life, though...
 

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I think it would actually work – from a purely physical point of view, pumping for growth in adulthood makes much less sense.

Hard to explain how or why though, other than to treat rare medical phenomenae like micropenis or Peyronie's disease.
 

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I was thinking about this again – you see stories about remote tribes using stones or other things to stretch their penises. These tales appear to be apocryphal (of doubtful authenticity). Read this thread at Thunder's Place for reference: https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/the-dani-tribe.html

I believe that vacuum pumping is the most modern and effective method of enlarging your penis. Unlike traction devices, pumping enlarges both length and width. The earlier you start, the better. I still think huge gains could come from regular pumping at the onset of puberty, when your penis is actually growing due to hormonal changes in the male body. It's too bad there is no scientific way to test my theory – I'm 100% certain (based on my pumping experience) that it would work.

I don't have a Bathmate pump, but my experiments with warm water pumping showed that it can be more effective than air pumping, done with moderation. The warm water seems to help more blood flow through the penis. There is a fun lens effect from the water that makes your penis appear larger, but improved post-pump gains are undeniable. I find water pumping messy and inconvenient though, and results from longer sessions of air pumping (done properly) are comparable.

PUMP WORKOUT

1. Pump to partial vacuum (just short of max size) and hold for 5 minutes

2. Relieve vacuum (gently reduce vacuum and pull penis out of pump), < 1 minute

3. Pump to full vacuum (max size – do not pump to painful -Hg) and hold for 5 minutes

4. Relieve vacuum (gently reduce vacuum and pull penis out of pump), < 1 minute

5. Repeat above

6. At the end, wrap the penis in a warm, wet towel as a break and to clean off lube

7. Rub the penis to full erection with a moisturizer to protect skin and to circulate fluids (at 40 minutes, lymph fluid will have entered the cavities – rubbing the penis after the pump session reduces the doughnut effect of a long pump)

I do this for 4 cycles (total 40 minutes, including the quick vacuum reliefs), alternating between left and right hand holding the cylinder. I've found doing it longer to be uncomfortable and it can result in diminished returns, water blisters, etc.


ESSENTIALS FOR VACUUM PUMPING

1. Get a good seal and maintain it (shaving is unnecessary, but use a good lube). The most important part is getting the right size of cylinder. Don't be optimistic – get a cylinder that fits your actual width, not the width you want to be. Length should be reasonable – you're not going to gain over 1-2 inches in a few months. This will allow you to achieve a perfect seal and your penis will stretch along the cylinder walls as you pump, increasing your length. When you've achieved permanent width gains (this happened relatively quickly for me), get a larger cylinder.

At one point, I thought I needed to be erect to start pumping but this is also unnecessary – a good seal will allow you to achieve a full erection regardless of the starting state of your penis (an erection doesn't hurt, though). I've used various OEM seals and the Doc Johnson doughnut sleeve, but the PumpToys VelSeal is working well for me now.

2. Pump to the right vacuum pressure. Never pump to the point of pain or where bruising occurs. There is no need to hurry - even a 20-minute session provides good results. It's easy to get overeager – pumping is a long-term commitment and permanent gains won't happen in a few minutes.

3. Consistency is the key. Pump daily if possible. Rest days are unnecessary if you are pumping at safe pressures for reasonable periods (10-40 minutes), but they will inevitably occur because of life events. I've found that short 10-20 minute sessions can provide impressive results if you don't want that "obviously pumped" look.

4. Find something to do while pumping. 20-40 minutes a day is a huge time commitment. Read, watch TV or porn, learn a language, etc. while you are pumping. Life is short, and the world really doesn't revolve around your penis.

5. Have fun. Vacuum pump sessions can be long and lonely, so enjoy that view of your penis getting bigger than it ever could with any other method. There aren't many women (or men) that appreciate penis pumping, so if you find one, they might be a keeper.

 

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P.S. I can't edit posts, so I'd like to add a few notes.

i. Flex your pubococcygeus muscle while pumping for stronger, harder erections and better ejaculatory control. A strong PC muscle helps your overall sexual health and performance. It's also a fun trick to make your penis swell, which your partner will enjoy.

ii. Don't complicate things when pumping. Trying to use a cock ring, prostate stimulation, etc. might seem like a good idea, but its better to focus on just pumping while your hands are occupied.

iii. Just for fun, I recently ordered some Doc Johnson Plump enhancing cream. You have to rub it gently (start with a small amount) into your erection for more than five minutes – the people who complain about it probably didn't do this properly. It really does seem to work. Vacuum pumping gives you far greater benefits (and even looks) and is free, but you have to appreciate how the cream works. There are some stimulant/irritant chemicals in its ingredients, while the rest are moisturizing/stabilizer compounds. Your penis will look slightly redder with the veins popping out, and I found that my erection was bigger and harder as well. It may be a placebo effect and all that rubbing and stroking has to count somehow, but I am happy enough to order it again. Don't expect an unrealistic improvement, however.
 

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Could this possibly work - the benefits of mild, reasonably long pumping sessions combined with adolescent growth?

Can't see how this would be attempted in practical terms in real life, though...

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Could this possibly work - the benefits of mild, reasonably long pumping sessions combined with adolescent growth?

Can't see how this would be attempted in practical terms in real life, though...

Maybe. The human body through time has been trained to conform...well deformed into shapes and sizes in other areas. The problem with prolonged long tem pumping there are a few things which might happen. Your penis may become larger, longer, but the blood vessels, erectile tissue and skin may suffer damage. You may have a long cock, one that does not work though.

I'm not a pumper. But like anything there are going to some positive points, and some negative.
 

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I think the only way to run an ethical scientific experiment on pre-adolescent growth would be to take in volunteers with micropenis. The Wikipedia entry doesn't indicate the use of vacuum pumps, but it could be used as a complement to hormone treatments. A bit far-fetched and requiring even smaller cylinders and seals from manufacturers, but it is a valid case.
 
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You may have a long cock, one that does not work though.

Absolutely. There is the possibility of tissue and/or nerve damage. This is not an approved medical procedure by any means, and people have to be careful or they'll end up with a very embarrassing (at the least) visit to the doctor. On the other hand, so-called doctors are selling penis enlargement operations that are dangerous and unethical.

On a lighter note, it looks like pumping is slowly making its way into the mainstream. Austin Powers and Magic Mike featured penis pumps for shock value and titillation. It will probably remain an underground practice, more taboo than something like S&M, bondage, or anal sex.

You can always go too far with this kind of "hobby". I'll leave you with a comical example:

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The images above are from Hanzo the Razor, a film series starring a samurai policeman who ritualistically beats his penis with a club and plunges it into a bale of rice to desensitize it / increase his sexual stamina.
 

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I owe my growth to my shaft curving to the left when I was a teenager - having to stretch the other way to straighten it, combined with my peak growing years, left a good permanent change

And his do you know this to be a fact? What evidence do you have that it wouldn't have reached this size regardless?
 

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Not sure about pumping, but I know a guy who is over 9 inches and says he jelqed all throughout puberty.


Problem is how do you know what size he would be without Jelqing? He may have been the exact same size. I would say any PE "growth" before you reach 21 can't really be attributed to PE exercises.


Now if a 30 year old went from 6" to 9" with jelqing, then we have proof.
 

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No. The missing portion is the cell growth modifier. The amount of time required would be exactly the same as an adult specifically because there's no modifier (chemical) to trigger the actual growth. It's like the rings people wear to lengthen their necks. They don't actually lengthen anything, they depress the chest instead giving the illusion of a longer neck.

Penis size is majorly genetic and while you might be able to "shape" growth like you could with a corset you can't actually cause growth without some form of genuine bodily trigger.
 

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I don't think there is any kind of law whatsoever. Most web and brick and mortar shops are probably not allowed to sell to minors, though.[/QUOTE
No. The missing portion is the cell growth modifier. The amount of time required would be exactly the same as an adult specifically because there's no modifier (chemical) to trigger the actual growth. It's like the rings people wear to lengthen their necks. They don't actually lengthen anything, they depress the chest instead giving the illusion of a longer neck.

Penis size is majorly genetic and while you might be able to "shape" growth like you could with a corset you can't actually cause growth without some form of genuine bodily trigger.

That theory that the neck isn't actually lengthened is highly disputes since it wasn't made by anyone remotely connected to medical science or anyone allowed to examine the women since the Kayan don't allow it.

Keshishian, J.M. (1979), Anatomy of a Burmese Beauty Secret (155.6 ed.), Washington: National Geographic, pp. 798–801