I agree with a liberal!

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  1. Pitbull

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    Oh PLEASE!! :irked: Lynn Samuels is neither a liberal nor to the left politically. The fact that clip came from Fox News should have been your heads up. :mad: Do you seriously believe that The FBI, CIA, NSA and various other organizations would have been unable to determine where he was born in all this time? :confused: If so, then you are a bigger fool than Lynn Samuels.

    If he was born in Kenya; then where is the proof? :confused: It may be a 3rd world nation, but they do have hospitals and clinics. For well over 50 years they have even had paper and typewriters. :rolleyes:

    His certificate of live birth should be sufficient. The fact it doesn't say birth certificate is merely semantics. :cool: Some states issue DWI's (driving while intoxicated) some issue DUI's (driving under the influence). The bottomline is that if you receive a ticket for either one, then you have been driving while drunk.

    Just because I'm a card carrying member of the NRA doesn't make me a republican. :cool:

     
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    The funny thing about 1BiGG1 and that nutcase in your youtube video is that they quote the WorldNetDaily as a source for their spurious information:
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    Yet somehow they didn't notice that WorldNetDaily already proved Obama's birth certificate was authentic in August 2008:

    Democrat sues Sen. Obama over 'fraudulent candidacy'

    A separate WND investigation into Obama's certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

    :biggrin1:

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    Opponents of Barack Obama's presidency claim small court victory

    Tami Abdollah, LA Times
    July 13, 2009
    Supporters of a case that disputes the legitimacy of Barack Obama's presidency claimed a small victory today when U.S. District Judge David O. Carter told them to fix their paperwork and that he would listen to "the merits" of their case. But others present for the hearing Monday at the federal courthouse in Santa Ana stressed that the case remains a long way from ever getting a full airing in court and may never get to that point.
    The case, Alan Keyes, et al. v Barack H. Obama, et al. was filed on Inauguration Day and is one of a raft of suits alleging Obama is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural born citizen.” Such claims have fared badly in court to date. In December, for example, the Supreme Court dismissed without comment a case challenging Obama’s right to take the oath of office.

    Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate
    The Huffington Post | Rachel Weiner
    First Posted: 07-14-09 09:15 AM | Updated: 07-15-09 10:58 AM
    /UPDATE: The Army has revoked the deployment orders for a soldier who said he shouldn't have to go to Afghanistan because (he believes) Barack Obama was never eligible to be president.
    Because he's a reserve soldier who volunteered for an active duty tour he can "ask for a revocation of orders up until the day he is scheduled to report for active duty," a public affairs officer explained. Cook volunteered for the tour in May of this year. It is not clear why he did so, considering his current objections.

    Orly Taitz, the lawyer in Keyes' case, is also representing a soldier who refuses to acknowledge Obama as his president. U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook has argued that he shouldn't have to go to Afghanistan because the man sending him there isn't really president.
    In the 20-page document -- filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia -- the California-based Taitz asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
    Cook further states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President's command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
    A hearing to discuss Cook's requests will take place in federal court this week.
     
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    More proof that some conservatives have nothing better to do with their time, but to obsess over something that has already been proven false. The birth certificate is legit. Get the fuck over it.
     
  6. Northland

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    Actually, Lynn Samuels is a liberal and always has been. When 77WABC had gone talk (at one time it had been pop music with Cousin Brucie (Bruce Morrow) and Harry Harrison among others) and was filled with mostly conservatives-G.Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh etc.; she had a segment of some 4 hours in the late night slot and even by NYC standards was decidely liberal. The purpose of her being at WABC talk radio was to give a wider listenership by bringing in not only liberals who desired her comments; and, also to lure in conservatives who would rant and rail against her.


    Perhaps she has changed; however given that she has been at places like WBAI, this would be one heck of a big change. I've lost track of her over time, she was more for a side dish of laughter for me by her at times extreme approach. In my fuzzy and clouded brain, I recall her being at WBAI(FM dial) prior to the WABC(AM dial) run and then returning to BAI. WBAI still is an interesting station to listen to and still has an activist voice to it. (and still begs for donations). WBAI has to my memory never cottoned to anything other than liberals being their hosts. A non-liberal guest may make an appearance; but, they will be grilled and skewered before they can exit back out onto 8th Avenue.

    One humorous broadcast I remember her doing was about gun control and she was having trouble for a moment getting it as 'lock and load' and would say 'load and lock'. Her comment at one point was that 'Lock and load' sounded like it should be a lake in Scotland (loch enload or some such tripe) It was funnier to hear it than to read it here.

    I also remember her gleefully going on one afternoon back in the late 80s about the episode of Wheel of Fortune the night before. The big winner was apparently a gay man and Pat Sajak had been somewhat surprised when his (the winner's) partner came up from the audience. Samuels reacted in a somewhat positive way, making comments about Sajak looking perplexed and about how wonderful it was that a gay person was able to appear on national television this way without the scene being edited. That spoke in a loud voice as liberal.


    Has she changed? Maybe. As I indicated, I'd lost track of her a few years back; yet, I don't think she could have changed quite that much.


    As to FoxNews using comments from her, this is their usual approach. Find a liberal to express a view which goes against the standards which people (conservatives at least) expect all liberals to espouse.


    The preceding was a commentary by an American Citizen of Iraqi birth and heritage and in no way expresses the views of this station.
     
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    Hey, we already have proof Obama's foreign-born (and a Muslim, too, apparently)!:rolleyes::biggrin1:
     
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    The clip was audio from Lynn Samuels' show on Sirius radio.
    Posted on youtube by someone called the Radio Equalizer.
    Why he used the Fox News Picture with that audio, I can only guess that is the only image of Lynn Samuels he had.
    The clip did not come from Fox.
    But does it make a difference?
    Do you immediately discount something reported by Fox?
    Do you immediately believe MSNBC? or CNN? or NPR? or Pacifica?

    Bottom line is that you are much more trusting than either me or Ms. Samuels.
    I assume that politicians are lying and I need some good evidence to convince me otherwise.

    Fact is that Barack Obama has refused to provide his birth certificate.
    What he has "provided" (via internet images only) is a certificate of live birth.
    If his birth certificate contains the same information - Why is he withholding it?
    Why has an estimated $1 million in legal fees been spent to avoid showing a document which might cost $10?
    Why if what he says is true?

    WHY?
    Anyone care to venture a real answer to that question?
    Real answer.
    Not just take his word for it and accept a document that as far as we know only exists on the internet.
    He has not ever provided any court with the "original" of his certificate of live birth.
    And even that internet document is suspect and has been called a forgery by some document experts.



    Maybe because as Ms. Samuels claims he is lying about where he was born.

    Would any of you in a similiar situation choose over a dozen lawsuits with more to come at a cost of over $1 million and climbing and constant questioning of your honesty and integrity when you could settle it for $10 bucks and be done with it?
    If you say "yes" then you are lying.


    The latest developments are very bothersome.

    Maj. Stefan Cook who had brought suit requesting proof of Mr. Obama's citizenship had his orders revoked by the Army. This caused a judge to declare that Maj. Cook lacked standing and threw the case out.
    That a soldiers orders are influenced by legal maneuvering and tactics to avoid answering legitimate charges in court are despicable. And if the charges are not legitimate - the court should decide that.

    It is also alleged that the Defense Security Services Agency (an agency of the defense department) pressured Simtech to fire Maj. Cook from his civilian job as soon as he informed them that his orders were revoked and he would not be needing additional military leave. If true, possibly a violation of federal law.
     
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    Just proof that even Liberals can be deluded imbeciles... and can irrationally seize on stupid, unsubstantiated drivel to mask their own deep seated racism.


    Sorry Pitbull- The birth certificate stuff? it's purest horseshit.

    File it with the 9/11 'truthers' and the Oliver Stone shit fer brains Kennedy conspiracists.

    And get the fuck over it... you have a black president.
    If you don't like it... you are free to get the fuck outta the country, and don't let the constitution hit you in the ass on the way out.
     
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    Irrationally seize on stupid, unsubstantiated drivel?

    Every lawsuit brought against Obama has ended in legal technicality such as lacking standing to sue to prevent the matter actually being proven in a court of law.

    This isn't about having a Black President. Obama and his supporters throwing the race card is ridiculous...Alan Keyes is Black. And Obama using every legal and political tactic available to him to avoid presenting the actual long document and spending upwards of a million dollars in the process is anything but transparent to the American people.
     
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    I knew you'd be a "birther".
     
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    now that the shoe is on the other foot the repb. scream and whine like little nelly bitches. hehehehehehehe
     
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    Oh, Pit. *sigh* You know I love you but I can't take you or anyone else who belabors this absurd theory seriously. It's complete and utter bullshit.
     
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    Every lawsuit brought against Obama has ended in legal technicality such as lacking standing to sue to prevent the matter actually being proven in a court of law.

    Why not prove it in court...(if it's so absurd) instead of spending more than a million to keep the matter from being proven beyond reasonable doubt?
     
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    No real answers yet on this forum


    Best answer yet.
    Definitely best answer from a liberal.
     
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    Who needs statinvestor when you have Pitbull to rally up the clueless masses over some pathetic bullshit? Talk about a bark that is scarier than his bite. :rolleyes:
     
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    Fixed that one for ya.
     
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    What would it matter if he had been born outside the US? No one is claiming that his mother was not a US citizen when he was born, and the children of US citizens are themselves citizens--regardless of where they are born.

    Why do people waste so much time arguing when they don't even bother to look up definitions of terms like "natural born"?
     
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    the argument is:

    1) Obama was born in Kenya and because his mother was not nineteen [19], he was only “naturalized” and therefore, not qualified to be President. - Phillip J. Berg, Esquire
     
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    Fixed that for you.
     
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