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[TwinkleDink]

@TwinkleDink When you have to resort to backpeddling from what strikes me as "mansplaining", you might as well just stick a fork in it. You're done.

Here's a newsflash for ya: The ladies here are smart as all get out. They have a clue. Big clue. They know what time it is. All the time. They know when a poster is being real. Or is full of shit. Unfortunately for you, most appear to have the latter opinion of you.

You've been here less than 2 months. You need to decide what exactly it is you are seeking from your participation here. It doesn't appear you are getting quite the experience you sought?

Regardless, it's obvious you haven't yet cued into the rhythm and grooviness that can be LPSG. Here's a suggestion for you: post less. Read more. Lots more. I guarantee your experience will improve IF you become mindful of what so many people are telling you, and your newfound mindfulness is reflected in future postings.

Or perhaps your statement from above sums up what you truly seek here?

So then, which is it? You here to participate or you here to inflame?

You say backpedaling, but I'm seeking to clarify my simple question that was never meant to start a problem. I've never done what most of the people are saying I did.

 

[TwinkleDink]

I completely agree. Tone makes a huge difference. Your posts come across a bit, ‘suck it up, Princesses - it’s a dick site’.

We are all aware of that. We are all really comfortable talking about sexual issues, perusing galleries when we feel like it, most of us are really open sexually - it’s why we’re here. We also have developed significant relationships here. It’s not what we’re going to find on a gardening site or on CNN forums. We like it a little bit dirty.

But like g0nz0 said, just because the site is covered in shit, doesn’t mean we have to be covered in shit. No woman here has to consent to be treated like a cam girl, sex toy, object or whore. Period. If we refuse to let ourselves be treated with disrespect, then good for us.

No one is shocked by the unsolicited dick pics, personally I’m more shocked by the treatment of women. The dismissal of our concerns and blatant misogyny evident by some posters. It’s the slap on the ass, the comments like, ‘it’s a dick site - get over it’ that are so insulting. If you wouldn’t do it in real life, don’t do it or say it here.

I would say it in real life. If a lady says "I'm not finding nice guys, they're all creeps" I say, "oh, well where are you looking?" She says "oh this large penis site..." I say, "try eharmony!"

 

[TwinkleDink]

Men who get overly upset about the lack of pandering from women here should be put on ignore for their own good. They always end up embarrassing themselves and *then* on ignore anyway.

Even better, they should put all of *us* on ignore so they don't have to worry their heads about what we are or aren't doing.

I dislike the lack of logic or the ability to discuss things without name calling.

 

[AlteredEgo]

I understand that unsolicited sexual messages is degrading. I don't do that, I don't advocate it. I'm pointing out that this would be an expected outcome on a Large Penis Support Group. Doesn't mean you like it, or that you welcome it or asked for it - just that it's a good chance that you go running through a cow pasture your going to step in shit.

This is nonsense only those unaffected by a problem ever espouse. The behavior is problematic. Extremely. Problematic behavior is to be addressed, not ignored, not treated as okay because it is common. We have been granted the privilege of being present here. The site owner himself says we are welcome to be here. The site has good bones in a body that needs a little working out. We lodge our complaints so the workout will happen, we hope, some day. Generally, I'm glad men exist in the world, and here. When behavior is problematic, that is NOT my fault. How are your ignorant "statements" any different from asking a woman who has been assaulted why should would be out at night in the first place?

You just got here. It doesn't make sense for you to dictate ANYTHING to women who have been here for years, even if you were right, which you are not.

 

[TwinkleDink]

What you're not understanding:

We know. We are not unaware of the nature of the site. We are going to call it out when we get ignored, and when people have no fucking manners. Like right now. The fact that you think we need to have this explained to us, pretty fuckin rude. That's why you're getting called out.

Not. That. Hard.

How have I been rude. I made a comment that allegedly all the women understand, but instead of just saying yea - we get it. Everyone says I'm dumb and have no business sharing my opinion. But of course they get theirs.

 

[TwinkleDink]

This is nonsense only those unaffected by a problem ever espouse. The behavior is problematic. Extremely. Problematic behavior is to be addressed, not ignored, not treated as okay because it is common. We have been granted the privilege of being present here. The site owner himself says we are welcome to be here. The site has good bones in a body that needs a little working out. We lodge our complaints so the workout will happen, we hope, some day. Generally, I'm glad men exist in the world, and here. When behavior is problematic, that is NOT my fault. How are your ignorant "statements" any different from asking a woman who has been assaulted why should would be out at night in the first place?

You just got here. It doesn't make sense for you to dictate ANYTHING to women who have been here for years, even if you were right, which you are not.

I'm here the same as you. Why can't I ask a question? Is it wrong to ask why you put up with the abuse?

 

[Murphys]

I ain't got a vagina, but I thought I'd chip in with my 2c as I found spare change in my pocket.

Just because the place is covered in shit doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't expect (and deserve to expect) better. If we just put up with crap all the time, we'd be smothered in the stuff.

Regardless of whether it was intentional or not, your tone previously, IMHO, is suggestive that women should expect and put up with a level of shit that frankly they have utterly no reason to.



Dude, I think you lost the audience in your thread, and trying to recover it now is unlikely.

Women can come here and stay here for whatever fucking reasons they like. They can love the place or hate the place, and its entirely their choice, and stay regardless if they want. And just because they have doesn't mean they've signed up to view and review every 3rd party cock in the joint. And if they do want to do that, thats okay too, because guess what? They've figured out where the galleries are! And they're well able to DM dudes and ask for cock pics should their hearts so desire.

Guess what else? They don't have to tell us why they are here either, despite whatever we might want.

I think tone is crucially important. Its very easy for someone to misinterpret tone online, as posts are missing all the usual non-verbal cues that help sentiment understanding. Never hurts to be ultra careful about tone, especially around an issue that is obviously bound to be sensitive. You can't claim to think your comments or questions weren't phrased insensitively.

Ask a question in a reasoned manner, and you might just be surprised by what you'll be freely told. Come across, either inadvertently or maliciously as a bit of a smart-ass prick, and just like the unloved dick pic you're likely to receive flak or bubkiss in response... And rightly so...



Hmmm... Ya see, this makes me doubt your sincerity.

I want a “multiple like” button for this. Or better a “BLOODY YES” one.

Well said. Very well said.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

How have I been rude. I made a comment that allegedly all the women understand, but instead of just saying yea - we get it. Everyone says I'm dumb and have no business sharing my opinion. But of course they get theirs.

Because you won't drop it, you keep on going. You come off like none of us have ever had this conversation, or ever thought for a second what kind of treatment we may get being women on a penis site.

News flash: we have.

A lot of the people you're talking with in this thread have been here for Years. We've enjoyed the place enough to stay. We shouldn't have to keep explaining why. If you understood, you would have politely stopped this nonsense a long time ago.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Also: I never told anyone to Not share their opinion.

 

[TwinkleDink]

I ain't got a vagina, but I thought I'd chip in with my 2c as I found spare change in my pocket.

Just because the place is covered in shit doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't expect (and deserve to expect) better. If we just put up with crap all the time, we'd be smothered in the stuff.

Regardless of whether it was intentional or not, your tone previously, IMHO, is suggestive that women should expect and put up with a level of shit that frankly they have utterly no reason to.



Dude, I think you lost the audience in your thread, and trying to recover it now is unlikely.

Women can come here and stay here for whatever fucking reasons they like. They can love the place or hate the place, and its entirely their choice, and stay regardless if they want. And just because they have doesn't mean they've signed up to view and review every 3rd party cock in the joint. And if they do want to do that, thats okay too, because guess what? They've figured out where the galleries are! And they're well able to DM dudes and ask for cock pics should their hearts so desire.

Guess what else? They don't have to tell us why they are here either, despite whatever we might want.

I think tone is crucially important. Its very easy for someone to misinterpret tone online, as posts are missing all the usual non-verbal cues that help sentiment understanding. Never hurts to be ultra careful about tone, especially around an issue that is obviously bound to be sensitive. You can't claim to think your comments or questions weren't phrased insensitively.

Ask a question in a reasoned manner, and you might just be surprised by what you'll be freely told. Come across, either inadvertently or maliciously as a bit of a smart-ass prick, and just like the unloved dick pic you're likely to receive flak or bubkiss in response... And rightly so...



Hmmm... Ya see, this makes me doubt your sincerity.

People deserve better, I've said that. The women here don't deserve dick picks or ask for them. SO why is it wrong to ask why they put up with the abuse. I've never heckled their reasons. I'm not the abuser. Are people so fragile that they can't receive an honestly innocent question about their motive?

 

[englad]

You say backpedaling, but I'm seeking to clarify my simple question that was never meant to start a problem. I've never done what most of the people are saying I did.

TwinkleDink, with the greatest respect you're just shitting all over your reputation multiple times over in this thread atm. I would advise you to read the advice, try to understand that your tone has been rude, patronising and uncalled for, and to LEARN from this experience. Own up to it, fess up and leave at this point.

I would say it in real life. If a lady says "I'm not finding nice guys, they're all creeps" I say, "oh, well where are you looking?" She says "oh this large penis site..." I say, "try eharmony!"

This is NOT a dating site.

 

[TwinkleDink]

Because you won't drop it, you keep on going. You come off like none of us have ever had this conversation, or ever thought for a second what kind of treatment we may get being women on a penis site.

News flash: we have.

A lot of the people you're talking with in this thread have been here for Years. We've enjoyed the place enough to stay. We shouldn't have to keep explaining why. If you understood, you would have politely stopped this nonsense a long time ago.

It's going because I'm getting attacked for a fair and polite question.

 

[TwinkleDink]

TwinkleDink, with the greatest respect you're just shitting all over your reputation multiple times over in this thread atm. I would advise you to read the advice, try to understand that your tone has been rude, patronising and uncalled for, and to LEARN from this experience. Own up to it, fess up and leave at this point.




This is NOT a dating site.

I will not apologize for asking a harmless question, then getting attacked for it.

 

[TwinkleDink]

Also: I never told anyone to Not share their opinion.

Great. I will continue to do so.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

It's going because I'm getting attacked for a fair and polite question.

I'm not attacking you. In my personal opinion, no one here is. We're just not trying to have the world explained to us by someone who clearly doesn't get what we're trying to say in the first place.

You're kinda attacking yourself by refusing to just admit that maybe you didn't need to take it this far? Just saying...

 

[TwinkleDink]

I'm not attacking you. In my personal opinion, no one here is. We're just not trying to have the world explained to us by someone who clearly doesn't get what we're trying to say in the first place.

You're kinda attacking yourself by refusing to just admit that maybe you didn't need to take it this far? Just saying...

I fully understand. Women are smart and aware of the people here, deserve more respect in the form of NOT getting sent. Which I've said repeatedly. I essentially ask 'why put up with it at all?" And I'm some kind of monster that demands people justify their life to me. I NEVER DID THAT.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

I fully understand. Women are smart and aware of the people here, deserve more respect in the form of NOT getting sent. Which I've said repeatedly. I essentially ask 'why put up with it at all?" And I'm some kind of monster that demands people justify their life to me. I NEVER DID THAT.

This website is not just for people who want to meet, or look at penis, or show off their penis.

It's a versitile place. Some of us just wanna blabber on about things we can't talk about in other settings. It's become a community of sorts. Some of us think that the fun we have with the friends we've made here outweighs the bullshit we go through. And, ya know, try being a woman online AT ALL. Being sexualized when you're not asking for it isn't something that only happens on sites like this.

 

[TwinkleDink]

This website is not just for people who want to meet, or look at penis, or show off their penis.

It's a versitile place. Some of us just wanna blabber on about things we can't talk about in other settings. It's become a community of sorts. Some of us think that the fun we have with the friends we've made here outweighs the bullshit we go through. And, ya know, try being a woman online AT ALL. Being sexualized when you're not asking for it isn't something that only happens on sites like this.

It is the plight of mankind to treat each other poorly, and that includes lowering women to sex objects. I wish it wasn't so, in the real or cyber realm. The good outweighs the bull, makes sense. Thank you.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

The good outweighs the bull, makes sense. Thank you.

Welcome. Simple, but not so hard to believe.

If you do some back-reading, I think you might be able to understand.

 

[693987]

I've never done what most of the people are saying I did.

Bullshit. You keep trying to back peddle because you got called out on your bullshit.

I posted this:

I'm fine with SPH as a thing. I have an issue with the multitude of men on here who try to manipulate others into participating in their kink and then throw a tantrum when they are called out on it.

And you started asking me about it

What about others who manipulate you into other kink?

I answered. You had some kind of issue with or are in denial of what I said, but I did in fact answer.

Also bullshit, but the most prevalent fuckers who try to manipulate others into their kink are the SPH-ers, hands down, zero contest. I don't believe in involving non-consenting adults in my kinks and/or sex life, hands on, text only, or otherwise. It's called having respect for others as people, and not treating them like my personal free masturbatory aids that exists for my pleasure.

Then you decided to try and avoid input from anybody and decided you would send me a private message, which was full of assumptions (which you keep denying you've done, even though the text is right there to see) that you do make assumptions. Repeatedly. You also try to speak for me.

Gee.

"So you like all the things NOT related to penis, but it's Large PENIS support group. You're bound to get unsolicited sexual advances. why not vacate and find another nice forum?"

I like dick. I love my partner's dick. I don't mind in general discussing dick when it isn't questions that haven't been beaten into the ground by repetition. Touched a nerve, did I, by pointing out the manipulative SPH-ers are treating people like their personal masturbatory aids?

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You made sweeping assumptions about people in general right here...

I'm simply pointing out the oddity of bemoaning SPH creepers or other various creepers when you literally sign up for a sexual forum. Do as you wish. I truly don't care. The clan of females that act aghast that unsolicited sexual advances find them here are absurd to me.

Again, not a single one of the women posting in this thread since it got resurrected has said they're "aghast" or in any way surprised by unsolicited sexual advances. It STILL doesn't mean we have to like it or approve of it or participate/reciprocate.

Here's you trying to back peddle/change what you've said. Again.

Nope. I did not assume or say any of those things...maybe you're thinking of someone else?

Here's you trying to act like people on here are oblivious or stupid. Again.

My assertion is the reality that they will probably come in a place like LPSG. That's not right, it's not asked for, I don't advocate unsolicited dick picks, but here we all are at LPSG acting like it's not mostly for sex.

Also, just because a majority do a thing doesn't mean everyone does. Just because most people aren't vegetarians doesn't mean people who are omnivores are weird. The vegetarians aren't weird either, people just do things for different reasons.

Then you try and change shit up with this

Really my true point was "Everyone is here to manipulate" It's the human condition, but that's another thread entirely.

And when I counter with this

Bullshit. I am not here to manipulate anyone. Speak for yourself.

You said this

I am. This is my opinion.

Your opinion is that everyone is here to manipulate. Which circles back to me and others being extremely suspect of why you keep beating this to death, acting like others are stupid or naive, or trying to say others have said things or behaved in ways that we have not. You also keep trying to change your tune and/or back peddle, but unlike the bullshit you keep trying to say others have done, it's easily shown what YOU say. You don't see me saying "oh gosh, I'm SO SURPRISED that some men are assholes on here and do the equivalent of flashing an unsuspecting and non-consenting person online". You won't find that shit anywhere to quote.

It isn't that you have a differing opinion. It's that you pretty much flat out admit you manipulate people or try to, and beat shit to death when I said I don't like people who try to manipulate others. Specifically, in the context of this site the multitudes of SPH-ers that try to manipulate others to be their masturbatory aids. Gee, wonder why you have an issue with me saying that, with all the shit that you've said in your posts.