...I have made lots of 'improvements' to my born-not-too-large PENIS.
Any guys have comments, and laidies too?
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Any guys have comments, and laidies too?
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I am a NEWBIE, who has been using a VACUUM PUMP and...
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I'm with Seahorses on this one. Whoever 'they' are, if 'they' are telling you to pump to anywhere near pain, 'they' are not doing anyone a service.
You do not need to pump to the point of pain to gain. Most serious pumpers pump with a gauge for consistent results without overdoing things.
Never pump over 5Hg! Start lower, at 3.5Hg then gradually build tolerance. Some men can go higher to 8Hg but I wouldn't recommend it.
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Best advice I read here for a long time:biggrin1:
That and use a GAUGE and a TIMER, see to many folk damage themselves by not having enough PATIENCE and trying to gain too much too soon.
Join Thunder's Place Free Penis Enlargement Forums? and spend a while going through the site, many experinced folk share their good and bad experinces with various forms of enlargement. Site can be overwhelming at first but gradually you will find all that you need to know.
Hasn't it been said and proved that pumping is purely temporary and nothing permanent?
The only evidence as regards pumping is strictly anecdotal. No medical studies have ever been done on pumping. Doctors claim the gains are temporary, people who pump claim they are not.
According to long-term pumpers, gains are initially temporary but eventually become permanent. With nearly every method of enlargement, ceasing all activity results in loss of some but not all gains. It is recommended that anyone involved in PE overshoot their goal size by 1/4"-1/2" to account for the shrinkage which may occur. It's rather like buying clothing one size too large if it is made of fabrics which shrink when washing. Some pumpers, and other PE practitioners simply do maintenance routines once a week or so to keep gains. After a while, those gains will become permanent.
As I have stated before, only one published medical study has ever been done on this and that study was done in the 1970s. The study showed that a statistically significant sample of jelq practitioners did gain measurably (about an inch), after a three month period.
No follow-up study has ever been done.
Anything else said about PE, whether by guys doing it OR those in the medical community who criticize it, is strictly anecdotal.
According to long-term pumpers, gains are initially temporary but eventually become permanent. With nearly every method of enlargement, ceasing all activity results in loss of some but not all gains. It is recommended that anyone involved in PE overshoot their goal size by 1/4"-1/2" to account for the shrinkage which may occur. It's rather like buying clothing one size too large if it is made of fabrics which shrink when washing. Some pumpers, and other PE practitioners simply do maintenance routines once a week or so to keep gains. After a while, those gains will become permanent.
As I have stated before, only one published medical study has ever been done on this and that study was done in the 1970s. The study showed that a statistically significant sample of jelq practitioners did gain measurably (about an inch), after a three month period.
No follow-up study has ever been done.
Anything else said about PE, whether by guys doing it OR those in the medical community who criticize it, is strictly anecdotal.
Im inclined to agree with you Jason regarding the evidence surrounding any form of penis enlargement, whether it be pumps, extenders, or manual stretching. Its purely anecdotal from those claming personal success and its baseless from those claiming it doesnt work.
Not that I didnt believe your claim that a medical study was done in the 1970s but out of interest I wanted to read it for myself to see how it was conducted etc. Consequently, I searched on the Internet and came up with absolutely silch! What I did find though were claims from many companies producing aids for penis enlargement that endorsed their own product over any other. Claims like, Doctors found that unlike penis pumps, that only produce temporary gains, our product produced permanent gains of up to 12 in 3 months! Or Our tests were carried out world wide on over a 100 men! (as many as that? Wow!) That sort of thing. I also came across an article on Wikipedia, though knowing some of it to be inaccurate has now caused me to doubt the validity of the site as a whole? And although I found several instances where studies were referred to, I couldnt actually find the studies themselves. All in all, it appears theres a lot of crap out there and little else. Interestingly, there appears no scientific evidence against penis enlargement, any doubt, by and large, comes from the medical sector and is invariably the quote of a doctors opinion. There is never any evidence from clinical trials, or claims by the doctors that they personally have tested whatever aspect they criticise, themselves. What we do have however, albeit anecdotal, is the testimonies of a significant number of guys, like me, without a vested interest in products, like those who jelq, stretch, or make their own equipment, who claim penis enlargement does work and on that I rest my case. BTW, if you can point me in the direction of said article, Id still be interested in seeing what it says and would be very grateful.
Sea
Hmmm im incredibly sceptical about penis enlargement. In the past ive tried pills (absolute rubbish!) and a device called a JES extender. The JES extender was good, its theory was believeable as its essentially based on keeping the penis under tension for prolonged periods of time. this in turn spurns cell multiplication and thus an increase in length. HOWEVER, in order to kepp the penis attached in the device a strap in secured around the head of the penis. This essentially cuts the blood supply making it impossible to wear the JES for anymore than 2 hours without risking damage (your supposed to wear it for 12 hours a day). I also tried jelqing and a vacuum pump years ago, neither gave long lasting results and i put the temporary results down to swelling, something that could cause long lasting damage. this is possibly because i didnt do it correctly, or attempted to get results to quickly. How have other people found enlargement programmes???
If I remember correctly the JES uses a cord or rubber type band to constrict or hold the penis in place while you stretch it. That has always seemed painful I would try the products at autoextender.com for a ADS.
Besides that there is jelqing and stretching that do work over time.
Can discuss that on my site if ya wish
Besides that there is jelqing and stretching that do work over time.
Can discuss that on my site if ya wish
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