I am gay and I totally believe in bisexuality.

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Does it upset you when gays and even straights consider you "gay" just because you have or had sex with guys? How do you answer them when they label you?

 

[Petrolhead]

there's still a lot of prejudice. in any case what business is it of anyone else what one does in private? tell them to mind their own business

 

[NicholasSommerby]

I think it's becauseyou get the guys who label themselves as bisexual, but they'll have a much higher preference for certain gender, or the ones that call themselves bisexual, but then say that they're either completely gay or completely straight. People just like to treat it as a middle point to call themselves while they figure themselves out.

I do believe in actual bisexuality though, despite what other people may believe. It IS possible to be equally attracted to both genders.

 

[B_henry miller]

or the ones that call themselves bisexual, but then say that they're either completely gay or completely straight. People just like to treat it as a middle point to call themselves while they figure themselves out.

I don't understand what this means. If you mean "people who say they are straight to the outside world but have sex with both genders in private," then you have to realize that society does this to us. Society largely does not recognize bisexuality. If you have sex with someone of the same gender, then you're gay. Period.

I think society will accept female bisexuality a little bit more. I think society sees female bisexuality as women "experimenting" with other women, but eventually they (the experimenting bisexual girl) will likely return to males.

 

[EagleCowboy]

I'll be the first to admit that it did piss me off at first. I just couldn't fathom that people couldn't understand that there are those that truly like both sexes and not just one sex. It took me a while to come to grips that their little brains are just that--little. They are unable to process reality the way it actually is, and not just the way they see it. So I feel very sorry for them.

So now when they insist on labelling me (or us), I just start getting this wicked smile going because I know I'm about to have some fun with them! :firedevil:

They will inevitably say the words "I think" either at the start of the sentence (gays love to do this in such a way that they think it makes them important or knowledgeable) or somewhere in the middle. I'll wait until they've finished their sentence, then hit them hard with this; "Ah! "Thinking"! Not exactly your strong suit at all, is it?" Usually shuts them down. Then I just smile and say "Bye-bye, Sonny" as I casually walk away.

One of my long time gay friends thinks I'm a little mean to them. But he now understands that I get so tired of the petty bullshit that gets thrown at me. It's not at all unlike all the bad stuff that gets thrown at one just for being gay. If you ask any gay man, they demand and expect tolerance from everyone right? They will tell you that they're 100% open minded. Yet they'll throw the same bullshit at bisexuals that straights throw at gays. It's been my experience that straights treat us better. Especially if we play the "potentially straight" angle.


So yeah, at first it pissed me off. Now I just have fun with it. :tongue:

 

[marriedjacker29]

Yes, it REALLY bothers me when people (whether they be gay OR str8) consider me gay because I like men. I am NOT gay. Why not? .....because I also like women, and have sex with women. I do like both genders, pretty much equally both physically and emotionally, although the ratio "ebbs and flows" back and forth across the 50% mark. On average, I'm a 50/50 bisexual.

I am not str8. I am not gay. I am bisexual.

 

[NSX57]

Yes, it REALLY bothers me when people (whether they be gay OR str8) consider me gay because I like men. I am NOT gay. Why not? .....because I also like women, and have sex with women. I do like both genders, pretty much equally both physically and emotionally, although the ratio "ebbs and flows" back and forth across the 50% mark. On average, I'm a 50/50 bisexual.

I am not str8. I am not gay. I am bisexual.

Could not be said any better as I am the same exact way. People just do not understand, and the funny part is that the gay community tends to find it one way or the other, which is ironic since many want respect for gay beliefs but bisexuality is a joke. Talk about a catch 22.

 

[BIGBULL29]

When gays or straights, or whateveraigts say that a man is who is bisexual is really gay is clueless about human sexuality. I do believe, though, that there are predominantly homosexual men who identify as bisexual as a way to look "less gay". This may be a bit misfortunate, but, at the end of the day, how someone defines his sexuality should be respected in this label-obsessed society.

I would say that there are more bisexual men than women, considering the competitive nature of men that brings a host of same-sex attraction possibliities (phallic jealously, etc).

 

[rainbowknight]

I believe that on a whole the gay community recognizes bi sexual people, hence LGBTQ. I just believe that when it comes to the personal practices and preferences of individuals bi sexuality is an issue for some gay men.

In a nutshell, gays that I knew when I was younger felt as though they could not compete with the sex of a female and they did not want to. Some of them even took it to the point of being home wreckers. In one regard, self interest is at the heart of the issue but not the total issue.

If you look at LGBTQ as a movement you do not see these issues because they are personal and divisive.

 

[EagleCowboy]

The ONLY reason the "B" is in there is for legal reasons. Without it, there could not legally be an organization. Originally, the gays, lesbians, transsexuals had no intentions of including the bisexuals.

 

[rainbowknight]

EagleCowboy, I will respectfully concede to your point with one clarification. From what I have read, it was not the leaders of the LGBT (back then) who were opposed to adding the BT. Lesbian and gay individuals who did not want bisexuals included voiced their feelings. Unfortunately, in LGBTQ history bisexuals were not included in a lot of public events.



Prejudice from individual lesbians and gay was an issue. Coupled with the fact that bisexuals were not collectively as visible and well known as gays and lesbians, contributed to unification issues. I have not read anything that there was an intentional effort by LGBT leaders to keep bisexuals out. If you have information that differs please let me know.


As an LGBTQ leader in my community, I advocate for the rights of all equally. I realize that bisexuals are not as visible as others in my community. Regardless, I am committed to advancing their rights just as passionately as I would mine. Just because it is easy for people to understand monosexuality does not mean that bisexuals should be marginalized.


I sincerely thank you because you corrected my utopian view about us. I was stuck in the present and not giving recognition to the history that sustains us. I found that there are a lot of gender identifications that I did not know in the LGBTQ spectrum and I am grateful for that also.

 

[EagleCowboy]

No, the info is really out there somewhere, although I don't know where to find it. I read it somewhere when I was studying in college, and for the life of me, I cannot remember where I had come across it. I want to say I had found it studying sociology, or the instructor was telling us this. I can't remember.

Still, I'm not sure how true it was then. It wouldn't surprise me any that it is true given how the gay community treats bisexuals.

 

[NYBTM99]

The ONLY reason the "B" is in there is for legal reasons.

This is simply an absurd statement. There is no legal basis for forcing any advocacy group to include a group within its mandate. If one took a few minutes to contemplate various advocacy groups, the absurdity of such a statement would be obvious.

 

[marriedjacker29]

Yes, as a bisexual, it does bother me when my sexual orientation is equated with being gay. I don't connect any more with gay guys than with str8 guys on a personal level. I like pussy just as much as cock, and cock just as much as pussy.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I don't understand what this means. If you mean "people who say they are straight to the outside world but have sex with both genders in private," then you have to realize that society does this to us. Society largely does not recognize bisexuality. If you have sex with someone of the same gender, then you're gay. Period.

I think society will accept female bisexuality a little bit more. I think society sees female bisexuality as women "experimenting" with other women, but eventually they (the experimenting bisexual girl) will likely return to males.

I think you're exactly right here....and I'll take it one step further. I think the reason lesbian sex is more readily acceptable is because it's often regarded as just foreplay. There is no penetration, therefore there is no sex.

 

[sumyungguy]

I think you're exactly right here....and I'll take it one step further. I think the reason lesbian sex is more readily acceptable is because it's often regarded as just foreplay. There is no penetration, therefore there is no sex.

I think here you have to define what sex actually is. Sex can mean different things to different people. For instance, some people think that oral sex would be considered sex, but some people don't and only consider it as a form of foreplay. Some people think that anal penetration isn't really sex either. It depends on the crowd. What makes one the authority of what is sex is anyway?

 

[DexterMorgan]

I've always been comfortable with Bill Clinton's definition of sex (ala Monica Lewinski)....but, seriously, you're right....there is no actual definition, or authority that comprehensively defines a sexual relationship....I was only describing why I, myself, think that lesbian relationships are more socially accomodated......I'm not defnding that, or saying that that's right....I'm just making an observation.

 

[Original English Thick Cut]

I've been told I don't exist. My reply: "WTF do you think it is when I'm getting fucked while eating pussy"?

 

[BoxersMan]

Some (gay) dude harassed me earlier today when I said I was bi to him. He told me I wasn't a real man and that I was in denial about really being gay.

Like he even knows how my mind works and what turns me on. :bryce:

 

[BIGBULL29]

Some (gay) dude harassed me earlier today when I said I was bi to him. He told me I wasn't a real man and that I was in denial about really being gay.

Like he even knows how my mind works and what turns me on. :bryce:

Well, there is a persistent belief in our culture that men are either all gay or all straight. Bisexual men, or men who admirably admit to same-sex attraction are simply in denial. I'm afraid, though, that its our society that is in denial. That said, there are men who are truly very gay, but parade as bisexual to escape the pure "gay" label. This does nothing to disprove bisexuality; it rather shows that people still have to lie to protect who they really are. Sadly, our primitive society with regards to human sexuality still has yet to evolve to a sophisticated level to accept that males come in all combinations of sexual orientations. After all, same-sex attraction in males is seen and screamed everywhere: straight porn, locker roomer, adolescent behaviors, etc. It's time for society "to come to terms"!