I am living proof that everything you know is wrong.

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  1. NightOwlGate

    NightOwlGate New Member

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    I am a gay conservative.

    This proves multiple things:

    1. Not all gays are Democrats
    2. Not all conservatives are straight
    3. Not all conservatives are homophobes
    4. Not all conservatives hate everyone except straight white christians
    5. Not all gays hate conservatives

    That said, I will most likely spend little time in the politics section here, as
    having a penis (no matter the size) doesn't mean you know what you're
    talking about when you discuss/debate politics.
     
  2. B_talltpaguy

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    Or in other words, you have low self esteem.
     
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    I pissed you off? How so? Is it because I just shredded up most of your
    long-held beliefs which you now have no choice other than to abandon and
    insult me because you're mad that your party is crumbling at its foundation?

    I used to be your type, but then I woke up and realized that the ones who are
    really closed-minded are the liberals who hate everyone that isn't a black, gay
    vegan who donates to planned parenthood.
     
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    Yay! We have a new troll! And he must be into SPH cuz there's no there there.
     
  5. NightOwlGate

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    I'll just brush those comments off, because a liberal calling everyone who
    doesn't believe the same thing as them a troll is the same as Ted Kennedy
    referring to unborn human lives as "mistakes" or "choices". Obviously it isn't
    true, but there isn't much use in trying to convince him otherwise.

    I could just as easily call you a troll, sir.
     
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    Here, here!... and um...not that I am ever nitpicky, but I already knew these things. And sadly, without further information about you, your initial statement about yourself only logically proves conclusion #2, and makes #5 difficult to disprove without going into complex emotional analysis.:wink:
     
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    Well, if anyone had that presumption, you have resoundingly disproven it.

    Why have you started two simultaneous threads on the same inflammatory yet vacuous topic?

    Isn't that blatant trolling?
     
  8. agnslz

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    I already knew all of the above, but I also know that most conservatives believe in, and have advanced, things which go against me and who I am, which is why I and most gays aren't conservatives or Republicans.
     
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    It's pathetic when people let their sexual orientation control their life and
    everything they believe in. Truly sad that people feel they have to be a
    liberal just because EVERY conservative doesn't support gay marriage.

    Just for your information, not every Democrat supports gay marriage either.

    http://www.towleroad.com/2010/02/four-democrats-align-with-antigay
    gop-forces-in-iowa.html


    Oh, by the way: you know the Westboro Baptist Church? The ones who
    protest soldiers' funerals and scream "God hates fags"? Well, guess what?
    Their leader, Fred Phelps, is a DEMOCRAT.
     
  10. agnslz

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    I'd be a liberal if I was straight, just as you are trying to get across that you're a conservative even though you're gay. And apparently you can't appreciate italics when others use them.:rolleyes:
     
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    If you see things in such black and white detail, it would be difficult to craft a meaningful response. Not everyone who identifies under any political banner agrees with all of the stances that are associated with it. The conservatives are currently in bed with the religious right, however, and it can be kind of taxing on the psyche for someone to identify with a point of view that condemns their immortal soul to hell. Just saying. Personally, I think that it's more tragic that some people try to politicize and legislate their own religious beliefs on others. Whole first amendment thing and all.
    Probably not very liberal though. There IS a difference.
     
  12. NightOwlGate

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    There's no way for you to know that, especially since you just told me
    that sexual orientation influences political beliefs.

    I find it interesting that people only make (or at least only acknowledge)
    that distinction when it is convenient for them or their argument.
     
  13. agnslz

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    Where did I tell you that?? I said most gays vote for the party which doesn't make it their policy to curtail their rights. And most gays are liberal because the liberal ideology doesn't include thinking that homosexuality is wrong or immoral. And if you say that conservative ideology doesn't either then I'd tell you (and most of your conservative peers will tell you) that you're out of the mainstream of conservative thinking.
     
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    I'd disagree with you on both of those counts. Just because the word
    "liberal" is close to the word "liberty" does not mean that there is any
    connection whatsoever. Far from it. I actually see liberalism as an
    anti-freedom movement. Liberals favor bloated government bureaucracies
    taking care of them, which means less freedom and more government control.

    Also, no ONE person decides what is "conservative thinking", and neither does
    the majority of self-proclaimed conservatives. I think that the only guide for
    who is a conservative or not is how much government influencing their life. As for
    me, I want little.
     
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    I would just like to point out for consideration that the OP has been registered on the site all of two days, and at the time he was compelled to post two simultaneous inflammatory, yet vacuous threads, he had 12 posts total under his belt.

    Also, he's here to "meat straight bros" and he's "not into black guys".
     
  16. JTalbain

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    No one person decides what makes a conservative, but you get to decide what all the liberals want to do? Enjoy your double standards elsewhere.
     
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    I can understand that. You don't fit the stereotypes of the group you are a part of. That is nice to know.

    I am a black gay man. I can't stand watermelon or grape soda. I don't really understand Lady Gaga. I like country music. Especially, Dolly Parton's and The Dixie Chicks' music.

    But because I am black and gay doesn't mean that I act a fool...it doesn't mean that I do street drugs...it doesn't mean that I hate white gay men...and definately doesn't mean that I am a fan of Beyonce either.

    I think that discussion and debating politics are different modes though. Discussion seems more positive. Sharing sides and truths of a political issue. And the discussion ends neutral for the audience to come away with knowledge and understanding. Whereas, debating seems negative...where one is proving that they are right on a certain political issue and they support their skews with evidence and sources. But it becomes like a competition of who has the right skew to believe in and who is right. And it gets relentless.
     
  18. JTalbain

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    Is there some reason why this generalization and attempted deflection makes my statement any less true?
     
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    Ugh, all of that is frivolous to me, and doesn't pertain at all to what I was saying.

    Edited to say that you edited your post to include this little bit which did at least pertain to my original post.:rolleyes:
     
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  20. NightOwlGate

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    I like how you chopped up my words and didn't quote me fully. After I said
    that no one decides what makes a conservative, I said that the way to know
    if you're a conservative is the amount of government interference you want
    in your life. You, however, ignored that to make yourself seem intelligent.

    Good try.
     
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