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And on the seventh day the He/She and Holy It said, "My work is almost done here," and decided to rest. While sleeping the He/She and Holy It passed a bit of gas and Axmann popped out. Looking upon its fudgy pile of sacred excrement it said, "and it is good."
 
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You know, of the 4 presidents before Obama, Bill Clinton (liberal Dem) was the only one to control the increase in government spending. Reagan more than doubled the national debt, Bush 1 would have done the same if he had time. And Bush 2...well let's not go there.

Selling 'small ' government is the easy part. Implementing 'small' government escapes them. You won't get votes actually implementing small government. The fascinating thing is it was 'big' government that saved capitalism from another Great Depression.
 

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Selling 'small ' government is the easy part. Implementing 'small' government escapes them. You won't get votes actually implementing small government. The fascinating thing is it was 'big' government that saved capitalism from another Great Depression.
and it was "small government", deregulating the financial industry, that created the conditions for it.

Greed - sensible control and oversight = inevitable catastrophe.

Inadequate FDA and product safety inspections = same result.

No, we don't want any stinking controls in the marketplace! Let every man fend for himself.
 

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Maxann: Oh, by the way: you know the Westboro Baptist Church? The ones who
protest soldiers' funerals and scream "God hates fags"? Well, guess what?
Their leader, Fred Phelps, is a DEMOCRAT.



No he is not. He is an independent now and use to be a Republican some time ago. His claim to be a Democrat is false- he uses that to claim as some sort of legitimacy of promotion to his cause. He has never been a real Democrat- lots of anti-abortionists and Republicans use that tactic of registration ( which you can change at whim) to discredit the Democrats and others. Its an old ploy.. Look up his registration from just a few yeas ago.. Republican! You need to check the facts!
 

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It's pathetic when people let their sexual orientation control their life and
everything they believe in. Truly sad that people feel they have to be a
liberal just because EVERY conservative doesn't support gay marriage.

Just for your information, not every Democrat supports gay marriage either.

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/02/four-democrats-align-with-antigay
gop-forces-in-iowa.html


Oh, by the way: you know the Westboro Baptist Church? The ones who
protest soldiers' funerals and scream "God hates fags"? Well, guess what?
Their leader, Fred Phelps, is a DEMOCRAT.


Fred Phelps is also a known user of speed, and used to be a lawyer. Someone burned out a percentile of his neurons and became a minister with a very strange ax to grind. There's thought he might be a closeted gay man himself.
 

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I'd disagree with you on both of those counts. Just because the word
"liberal" is close to the word "liberty" does not mean that there is any
connection whatsoever. Far from it. I actually see liberalism as an
anti-freedom movement. Liberals favor bloated government bureaucracies
taking care of them, which means less freedom and more government control.

Also, no ONE person decides what is "conservative thinking", and neither does
the majority of self-proclaimed conservatives. I think that the only guide for
who is a conservative or not is how much government influencing their life. As for
me, I want little.
Axxman, nope Maxann, umm MaryAnn? Here are the definitions of words you like to use but don't seem to understand.
Liberalism
c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class) d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party
Conservatism
2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established b : a political philosophy based on tradition
and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (as retirement income or health-care coverage)
3 : the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change

So using Webster's definitions to apply to history Conservatives would have ignored the Civil Rights movement of the 50s and 60s because change would happen eventually so to help move it along would be wrong.
To simplify it for you MaryAnn Liberalism = progress and Conservatism= status quo
 

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I can understand that. You don't fit the stereotypes of the group you are a part of. That is nice to know.

I am a black gay man. I can't stand watermelon or grape soda. I don't really understand Lady Gaga. I like country music. Especially, Dolly Parton's and The Dixie Chicks' music.

But because I am black and gay doesn't mean that I act a fool...it doesn't mean that I do street drugs...it doesn't mean that I hate white gay men...and definately doesn't mean that I am a fan of Beyonce either.

I think that discussion and debating politics are different modes though. Discussion seems more positive. Sharing sides and truths of a political issue. And the discussion ends neutral for the audience to come away with knowledge and understanding. Whereas, debating seems negative...where one is proving that they are right on a certain political issue and they support their skews with evidence and sources. But it becomes like a competition of who has the right skew to believe in and who is right. And it gets relentless.
Invisibleman you and I must be twins. I'm also a gay black man who hates watermelon and grape soda. Not a fan of Lady GaGa but adore Dolly and the Dixie Chicks. Never had or will use drugs and also like hot white guys. You, me, and Vinyl must be aberrations because MaryAnn tells us that we must act a certain way.
 

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Invisibleman you and I must be twins. I'm also a gay black man who hates watermelon and grape soda. Not a fan of Lady GaGa but adore Dolly and the Dixie Chicks. Never had or will use drugs and also like hot white guys. You, me, and Vinyl must be aberrations because MaryAnn tells us that we must act a certain way.

I know... isn't it great when the MaryAnns of this nation tell us how we're supposed to behave, then claim that we're the reason society is all fucked up because our lives don't adhere to their bigoted, societal scripts?

I mean, if I'm supposed to wear a do-rag, a pair of baggy jeans that hang off my ass, a couple of gold teeth, a bunch of tattoos and recite Lil' Wayne lyrics as I walk my two pitbulls on a leash down the street in hopes of having my Basketball career take off them please let me know! :biggrin1: :rolleyes:
 
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Fascinating. The heat got to hot? Or is he in for an overhaul/retooling only to reappear singing the same song but in a new dress?
 

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Hilarious that you call Bill Clinton a liberal Democrat.

You know, of the 4 presidents before Obama, Bill Clinton (liberal Dem) was the only one to control the increase in government spending. Reagan more than doubled the national debt, Bush 1 would have done the same if he had time. And Bush 2...well let's not go there.
 

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You mean you have declined to avail yourself of these things?!

I can (and do) take care of myself quite well, thank you. The only "government handouts" i've ever excepted were a road to drive on, lines to pipe the electricity to my home, and pipes to ship water to/from my abode.