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We've been through this before.../sigh. You should have read the thread before coming in. I have one for you:

Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies

And again the Sorrels study looks at pressure on the penis. Not sexual pleasure. It has absolutely no bearing for any sexually based argument in regards to circumcision. We already went through this.
no, of course not, having half your leg cut off, does not effect your ability to run:rolleyes:


it removes more than half the number of nerve endings, and all or nearly all of certain nerves which provide certain sensations.
Most of the world is uncut so those links are meaningless.
wow that is a blatantly ignorant statement. chinese girls were also all footmolded, but does this not mean that they were suffering in silence or that they haven't been disadvantaged?

you can't know what you've lost until you've lost it, and even if you don't know, it doesn't change the truth, facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored.

yes , it was designed to remove sexual pleasure, this could be observed from moses' time through millenia, until now too, this was it's mandate. if it's not that then it's 'hygene' same bs told to woman.

i FACE THE FACTS, my penis plays a great roll in my life, a great percentage of it, every second thing i think of is for good sex and happyness, it plays a great roll on psychological happyness, confidence, perseverance through life and many other things too. my penis is darn important, i would feel dead without it. yes the penis matters, a very great deal

as i've mentioned, Freud equates circumcision to castration
 
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no, of course not, having half your leg cut off, does not effect your ability to run:rolleyes:

This is called a strawman argument.

A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

But I would expect nothing less from 6928 who spends his days obsessing over his dick. That's very healthy experts agree.
 

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oh yes you got to love the comparisons they use to prove their false prophesy their
always preaching about sargon. how the cut cock is so bad, an their forskin is a god send to sexual satisfaction, be it man or women they are using it on. LOL. i never had a forskin cock satisfy me the way i get perfect satisfaction from a circumcised cock... sorry 6928 but your comparison just doesn't work here. sort of like a few uncut cocks Ive had in the past they didn't work to good either.. like it or not 6928 cut cocks are welcomed by a lot more people than you want to believe they are... just look over some of these past threads about guy getting circumcised an how much better they feel about it now than they did before.. an they are blowing your ideas about circumcision away 6928 an proving just how much your thinking about a guys circumcised cock is so WRONG.
 

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Thanks Sargon, I was about to lay into 6928 with the same thing, not necessary now.

I could care less what Freud compares circumcision to. He was never what I would called an informed individual on the penis.

There was reference earlier to where Wallaboi made mention of no evidence of phimosis in the intact photos of the OP. Maybe I could be wrong but I don't think he ever posted them. Furthermore, why does he have to prove to this board that he actually has phimosis? Why cant people just accept the decisions that people make like another poster said. You dont see me kicking down doors saying genital piercing is mutilation. Stop with the self righteous act, if your pissed off at your penis then you as an individual need to go take care of it, if you feel the need to go and stretch your penile skin and make a faux foreskin then go right ahead, if you want to put a tattoo on your penis that says "My Best Friend" if that makes you feel better then its your choice.

FFS I dont have anything more to say in this thread, I'll restate my points and then move on to other arguments:

1. This argument was never about RIC.
2. Adult circumcision if chosen is a viable solution to phimosis and the individual need not listen to any fear mongering
3. There is currently NO study/research/article/reference that is has passed MGF: Medina Grump Factor. This is evidence that has been published in a peer reviewed journal AND then successfully replicated. No link or book on this planet can support either side of the argument.
4. People who are circumcised should not feel bad about it. If you do then that is quite frankly your problem and you have EVERY right to rectify that problem. That can be said vice versa.

I have lived on all both sides of the fence and experienced both. My preference at this point and time in my life is in having a circumcised penis. When I was uncut I was a great advocate of my foreskin. Personally a penis is a penis.
 

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The surgeon who did my circ said that he had done many of thenmto save marriges, where the husband was a pre-mature ejaculator. The circ lessened the sensivity of the glans, allowing the husband to "work" longer with better control over his orgasm. The circ of the husband ended the frustration of the unsatisfied wives. In my case I did not notice any difference in sensitivity because I had worn my foreskin in a retracted position for several years. The hygene factor alone is reason enough to be circumcised. If you aren't cut, don't criticize men who are---no odor, no smegma. Just clean.

If you regularly wash your dick it´s also clean !!:eek:
 

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.. it never hurts to liven things up now an then. i like a good fight now an then my self. so bring your smelly unclean cock over here an lets get the fight started huh? what ya say? as this thread is starting to die some what..... but lets ask the op first as it is his thread ?

The motives of the OP starting this thread are questionable. If he wanted to get circumscised, then go ahead and have the operation. There is no need to justify himself to us, with reasons of phimosis (questionable) or hygiene. I originally thought that this thread might be informative to some guys who are considering getting circd, but the personal journey content is thin and tainted with the intent, to knock some guys "off the fence" (the OP's words).

We all want to fit in with our friends and family, and believe me as a young boy I felt left out, in a community where most of my male friends and family were cut. I too, seriously considered circumscision. However, I am a procrastinator and never had it done (fortunately). As a cock lover I don't discriminate. Cut or uncut I get what I can, and the inner qualities of a man are more important than size or circ status of his cock.

g32js - I'm a lover not a fighter, and I definately don't fight below my weight. Particularly when the opponent is also lame. So I forfeit, coz you found my achilles heel. I just can't take nagging of any kind. No wonder your husband got circumscised coz you are a world champion nagger.
 

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If you regularly wash your dick it´s also clean !!:eek:


well their must be a lot of guys who don't wash theirs then. is all i have to say on this one. i have never had a cut cock that had an odor of any kind what so ever even after daily activities or what ever. but comparing this same thing to the uncut ones they all had a a odor regardless of what you say about washing, even after they still smelled just not as bad. say what you want about it an defend it to the death. uncut cocks are dirty an smelly an the poster you quoted is quite correct in his thinking on this, as he stated just the clearness factor an such should be enough to want it done if not for just that alone...:wink: their mite just be some clean uncut cocks some where. but i sure have never seen but one. an i have found out the past few days that he to has recently been circumsied, so now i an his g/f know he is clean
 
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The motives of the OP starting this thread are questionable.


only to you wallabi it seems. as the op stated why he had circumcision done.


g32js - I'm a lover not a fighter, and I definately don't fight below my weight.


using someones weight in place of a disscusion you know nothing about shows how you like to fight. i don't like pussy whipped little boys like you who thank they are an adult, but go around with a dirty filthy cock. then resort to child like ways when they don't have anything to add to the conversation. so grow up,, wash up,,, then get back to me. [ exampale ] i dont know why you dont wash your dirty dick. as like you said about the op photo,, it didnt look like he had anything wrong with it but you wasnt sure. [ exampeal] same can be said for you. wash your dirty dick as in your photos it doesnt look clean to me.. but i could be wrong. you see it does go both ways. ... wallaboi....
 

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Wow, alot has been written on this thread while Ive been doing other stuff like writing school papers and having sex.
I mostly agree with two posts. The useful life of this thread probably ended when I got laid! LOL! Everything else is opinions and comment.
Also, I agree this will never decide the issue at the heart of what people want to debate here: if parents have the right to circumcised their baby sons.

But I disagree with the fact that it solves nothing at all. It proves that anticircumcision advocates are "crazy" and that they are way more so than advocates of the other position. The irrationality and stupid combativeness of the antis is endless. I cant think of one thing Ive posted that hasn't been twisted by them in the most obvious ways. The fact I wrote, weeks and weeks after my circ that this thread knocked a couple guys off the fence is now my ulterior motive for the whole thing! They debate whether my or anybody's phimosis is good enough reason for circumcision like their opinion counts! And they all assume I have it coming to me for daring to upset the foreskin Gods of LPSG. I actually hoped that the guys with phimosis or other foreskin problems and the guys who have undergone circ for that on LPSG would post on the thread. There are a lot of both on LPSG. I certainly expected a bunch of different opinions to be express, but the tendency of folks to hijack the thread into routine infant circ or their own feelings about having had that done, was a surprise.
 

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[ forskin gods,,,] oh goodness Brian don't swell their heads up anymore than they already are. a god they most certainly are not. i believe that Websters dictionary calls the-male with forskin a heathen. an that is what some members of the forskin brigade act like on here when it comes to anyone who likes or has a preference for circumcised cock. be it male or female, post anything against their brain washing ideas about the forskin an the heathen comes out real fast in some of their post here. i am glad not all uncut guys act like them. some are good guys have a few friends uncut. an they are in no way like some on here are about their forskin. a few of them are considering being circumcised. so its not bad as the antis, as you call them make it out to be. also glad your getting more enjoyment with your new cut cock. congratulations are in order on the new found fun I'm sure. .
 

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anticircumcision advocates are "crazy" and that they are way more so than advocates of the other position.
That's an interesting position in light of the fact that the desire to amputate your healthy normal body parts actually has a clinical name: Bodily Integrity Identity Disorder. That's bona fide crazy.

I'm not saying this has anything to do with you. If your penis had a defect I applaud your right to choose to do something about it, and I salute the diligence that led to your speedy sterile recovery.

I got into this when a "nurse" said your case is why circ should be done on infants "when it's easier." I know you don't feel that way, and we both know an adult gets a superior cut job.

Cheers,
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This is called a strawman argument.
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

But I would expect nothing less from 6928 who spends his days obsessing over his dick. That's very healthy experts agree.
ad hominem
■ adverb & adjective
associated with a particular person.
(of an argument) personal rather than objective.


L., lit. 'to the person'.



© Oxford University Press, 2004

Wikipedia:

Ad hominem
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claims is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.



yes the penis is part most what we live for
, it IS important, and completely relevant to this forum, unlike your completely egotistical personal attacks
 

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Thanks Sargon, I was about to lay into 6928 with the same thing, not necessary now.

I could care less what Freud compares circumcision to. He was never what I would called an informed individual on the penis.

There was reference earlier to where Wallaboi made mention of no evidence of phimosis in the intact photos of the OP. Maybe I could be wrong but I don't think he ever posted them. Furthermore, why does he have to prove to this board that he actually has phimosis? Why cant people just accept the decisions that people make like another poster said. You dont see me kicking down doors saying genital piercing is mutilation. Stop with the self righteous act, if your pissed off at your penis then you as an individual need to go take care of it, if you feel the need to go and stretch your penile skin and make a faux foreskin then go right ahead, if you want to put a tattoo on your penis that says "My Best Friend" if that makes you feel better then its your choice.

FFS I dont have anything more to say in this thread, I'll restate my points and then move on to other arguments:

1. This argument was never about RIC.
2. Adult circumcision if chosen is a viable solution to phimosis and the individual need not listen to any fear mongering
3. There is currently NO study/research/article/reference that is has passed MGF: Medina Grump Factor. This is evidence that has been published in a peer reviewed journal AND then successfully replicated. No link or book on this planet can support either side of the argument.
4. People who are circumcised should not feel bad about it. If you do then that is quite frankly your problem and you have EVERY right to rectify that problem. That can be said vice versa.

I have lived on all both sides of the fence and experienced both. My preference at this point and time in my life is in having a circumcised penis. When I was uncut I was a great advocate of my foreskin. Personally a penis is a penis.
you are ignoring the very things i've said and attacked me with completly unrelated gestures, such as that i am 'using a strawman', while you openly ignore the fact that strawmans don't have arguments or realavant points either.

:eek:CLEARLY the utmost form of hypocrisy!
 
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using someones weight in place of a disscusion you know nothing about shows how you like to fight.

I think you have misunderstood my comments regarding weight. In boxing and most forms of competititive combat, there are weight divisions, to ensure a fair and reasonable competition.

Saying that I don't fight below my weight, in this forum means that I don't fight/debate with someone who is clealy, intellectually disabled and also a lame, skanky ho.
 
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I'm sure you would take it personal when someone questions your 'logic' of associating circumcision with having a leg amputated. Only The Brigade has the thought processes to arrive at that association. You have zero research to make that claim and you look even sillier defending it, actually you don't defend it because you can't. You simply call it a personal attack. If it's one thing you are it's humorous beyond expectation. So there I said something good about you. :smile:

............but the tendency of folks to hijack the thread into routine infant circ

They throw everything the can at circumcision. If throwing the kitchen sink were effective that would be in the thread too. I don't know how they could fit one into cyberspace but they would.
 
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the best one yet from the brigade Sargon is the one about when a guy gets circumcised it is the same as him getting castrated. guess they don't know when a Man becomes castrated he usually don't even get hard much an if so its only a brief moment, an he hardly ever shoots even blanks. at alone have long lasting sex. an every cut cock Ive had sex with worked excellent an lasted a long time an also shot lots of bullets an the barrel never over heated either like some not all but some of the uncuts i know has. so like Ole Shakespeare said centuries ago. Ole what a tangled web the uncut brigade doth weave, when its they themselves who are deceived.
 

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Just what the OP's intent with this thread was, just what he expected to receive comments on, is unclear. But one thing is, I think, certain: This thread has limped on far too long and should be brought to a close. But until then:

All these circfetishists dwell in egotistic fantasyland, where anything they choose to blurt out must be true, no matter how incorrect or irrational, just because they assert it--even if they have absolutely no substantiation for it or even basic knowledge of the subject. A little objective, open-minded research would, of course, undermine their egregious nonsense--thus they can only spew twisted emotionalism and hostility toward anyone who might dare contradict them (horrors!). Most likely they feel that they have to justify what has been done to them. Should they accept the truth, they would feel that they have been damaged and betrayed--which they bloody well have been. They accuse Intactivists of having an agenda with ulterior motives...but nothing could be further from the truth. Circfetishists are the ones who want to continue the barbarous rape of infant foreskins, taking from those little persons their right to choose. It is Intactivists who want to assure every male his inalienable right to make decisions about his own body. If that means an adult freely chooses circumcision, so be it--Intactivists have no quarrel whatsoever with an adult's actions. It's that man's absolute right to do as he will with his own penis...but not with an infant's. It is precisely that right of individual choice that the fanatic circfetishists wish to deny every male. Now just who is it with an agenda...?

And by the way--I've offered to pay all medical expenses involved if that loud-mouthed, spelling-, grammar-, and logic-challenged female who's so hot for male circumutilation will undergo surgical removal of her clit hood (i.e., female circumcision). That way she might have at least half a leg to stand on when she spouts off about male genitalia. But guess what--she still has not taken me up on that offer...surprise, surprise! However, it still stands...so anytime she's ready........................

LOL! She should know that women produce smegma too, as well as yeast, some women do not know how to clean their genitals with soap and water and this is basic hygiene, and that a yeast infection and smegma from a woman and some women's vaginas smell worse than that of an intact penis with a foreskin.

If shes uses the argument that a cut cock is somehow "cleaner" than an intact penis with a foreskin, why isn't she getting surgery done to her genitals so they are "cleaner" and do not produce smegma or even yeast (intact men do not produce yeast)? She had her husband do this.


g32js - I'm a lover not a fighter, and I definately don't fight below my weight. Particularly when the opponent is also lame. So I forfeit, coz you found my achilles heel. I just can't take nagging of any kind. No wonder your husband got circumscised coz you are a world champion nagger.

LMAO! LOL A male friend of mine jokes that most women have the nag gene.

I find it odd that a biological woman who doesn't even have a penis, seems to assume that she knows so much about what it's like to have a penis at all, let alone a penis that is fully intact with a foreskin. :rolleyes:

g32-If you're happy with your husband's cut penis and he's actually happy with it too that's fine but don't assume that every guy that is not cut isn't happy with his intact penis and does not want to get cut at all or see the need for it at all, and also it's rather foolish of you to say that a cut penis is somehow more "clean" than an intact penis with a foreskin that gets washed with soap and water like you would do to any other part of your body, or so I'd hope. My friend's roommate is in his mid 20s and apparently doesn't use toilet paper or wash his ass. :puke:

I don't think that circumcision should be done on infant boys at all as they have no say in it. The same goes for boys/men who get it done in Africa and the middle east and the Philipines because of pointless religious and cultural traditions or because it "makes them a man" in their culture. :rolleyes:

Likewise female circumcisions that get done on women/girls are wrong too, and if a guy does want it done as an adult it's his body and his decision but I still don't see the point of it unless there's a rare medical condition that can't be fixed with manual stretching or some minor surgery that isn't circumcision.

Likewise if an adult woman wants to surgically alter or remove any part of her vagina she should be allowed to do this but I don't see the point of it.

It would be like getting an eye infection or pink eye or something else and then saying how the eye is dirty and even though the eye is self cleaning how they eyelid should be removed so eye infections do not happen.

The foreskin is on a male penis for a reason, and that's to provide pure penile pleasure to the man who owns it!

Most of my male friends (they are all orientations) who are cut really wish that they were not and had an intact penis with a foreskin.
 
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The fact I wrote, weeks and weeks after my circ that this thread knocked a couple guys off the fence is now my ulterior motive for the whole thing! They debate whether my or anybody's phimosis is good enough reason for circumcision like their opinion counts!

Like I have said previously, if you want to get cut to fit in with your peers, or do body modifications because you like it, then go ahead and do it. As an adult you have the right to do it without judgment from anyone. (and that is fine with me) However, if you get circumscised and feel the need to justify yourself and to persuade others to get circumscised under false pretences, you are commiting fraud.

Copied and pasted from briancy's messages in his profile

"I have a little tightness but it never caused a problem actually it the reason insurance is paying for it. I hate being uncut. I had a lot of problem with rejection by girls (and guys) and also feeling like the odd man out with my friends.
I didn't know about styles when I had my appt with the urologist last week. The only option he gave was keep or remove my frenalum which I'm hoping some cut guys here will advise me about."

Deceiving guys with genuine foreskin problems, and also rorting medical insurance. Cosmetic surgery paid for by the taxpayers or the USA.
 
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the best one yet from the brigade Sargon is the one about when a guy gets circumcised it is the same as him getting castrated. ............

Wow yes I did miss that WHOPPER. Amazing.