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As a relatively new member of LPSG, I have noticed something that has tweaked my curiosity: I notice that a number of straight men look at male butt pics with enthusiasm and affirming comments. I also note some of them appreciate it when another man praises their cock.

Those two things does not suggest those straight men are gay. It DOES suggest that from time to time they might enjoy getting down with another man, a gay man. Frankly, that is quite healthy and, yes, normal. I see photos of straight men on LPSG who have drop dead awesome bodies, butts and cocks. Who wouldn't enjoy a taste! am

Perhaps this query should be in "Ask a straight man", but I am more at ease starting here.
 

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In my opinion there are a large section of predominantly straight bisexuals who don't like the label of bisexual. To them the label implies they are equally interested in both options. So they wear the straight label because it's what they identify closest to or it's how they want to be classified by the outside world for whatever reason.
 
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In my opinion there are a large section of predominantly straight bisexuals who don't like the label of bisexual. To them the label implies they are equally interested in both options. So they wear the straight label because it's what they identify closest to or it's how they want to be classified by the outside world for whatever reason.

Very good insight! I am not sure I like "gay" to describe my orientation, but we live with it! An Italian tourist once told me that Americans are very ill at ease unless we can fit someone into a specific box. "Straight" guys who enjoy periodic anal sex as the recipient don't like to be labeled as assuming a woman's role (passive, receptive). That Italian lad said to me, "In Italy you might have wild, unbridled sex with a man. Once you two have had your fun, it is not uncommon he will thank you and then remark that he must head home to the wife and kids.
 

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Very good insight! I am not sure I like "gay" to describe my orientation, but we live with it! An Italian tourist once told me that Americans are very ill at ease unless we can fit someone into a specific box. "Straight" guys who enjoy periodic anal sex as the recipient don't like to be labeled as assuming a woman's role (passive, receptive). That Italian lad said to me, "In Italy you might have wild, unbridled sex with a man. Once you two have had your fun, it is not uncommon he will thank you and then remark that he must head home to the wife and kids.

People forget homosexuality was or is still a state and church sanctioned discrimination.

It wasn't that long ago that homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder and a criminal act. It's still used as an insult. Most religions classify it as a sin.

So it's hardly unexpected for people to want to avoid being labeled that way.
 
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Before organized religion, homosexuality was normal/natural. As an ordained Christian theologian who received my graduate degree in Theology, I can usher up many arguments as to why homosexuality is natural and normal along the human landscape.
 
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Very good insight! I am not sure I like "gay" to describe my orientation, but we live with it! An Italian tourist once told me that Americans are very ill at ease unless we can fit someone into a specific box. "Straight" guys who enjoy periodic anal sex as the recipient don't like to be labeled as assuming a woman's role (passive, receptive). That Italian lad said to me, "In Italy you might have wild, unbridled sex with a man. Once you two have had your fun, it is not uncommon he will thank you and then remark that he must head home to the wife and kids.

What is "predominantly straight" bisexuals? That seems counter-intuitive and conflicting.
 

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What is "predominantly straight" bisexuals? That seems counter-intuitive and conflicting.
If you imagine a line which represents sexual arousal, at one end is 100% straight, the other end is 100% gay. Everything between these two points on the line are a shade of bisexual.

Technically, predominantly straight is everyone on the straight half of the line but I suspect most of the straight identifying people would be closer to the 100% straight end.

Obviously I have excluded people who are deluding themselves, that's another topic.
 
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Well, I guess my 99% gay / 1% straight fits somewhere! :) In fact, I am well to the end of the gay "needle" on the sexometer. (I know. No such beast exists, so I created one!) My point is, which you sort of touched upon: If you are bisexual, you are neither straight bisexual or gay bisexual. You are, in basic terms, bisexual. Some straight men are aroused looking a man's ass up in the air and ready for penetration. Some straight men put their own asses up in the air for penetration. However, I have yet to meet a gay man who gets excited looking at pussy.
 

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Well, I guess my 99% gay / 1% straight fits somewhere! :) In fact, I am well to the end of the gay "needle" on the sexometer. (I know. No such beast exists, so I created one!) My point is, which you sort of touched upon: If you are bisexual, you are neither straight bisexual or gay bisexual. You are, in basic terms, bisexual. Some straight men are aroused looking a man's ass up in the air and ready for penetration. Some straight men put their own asses up in the air for penetration. However, I have yet to meet a gay man who gets excited looking at pussy.

I get what you are saying. I picked 99% gay 1% straight too. But if I told a woman I was bisexual, it would give her the wrong impression on her chances with me. So sometimes in a tick box world it's easier to just pick the closest option and not worry about the asterisk and the accompanying footnote.
 
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Fair enough. Most women throughout my life have understood at some level. Mostly because I did not come onto them. My younger brother and several other men have expressed frustration over the years (especially when I was younger) how women were undressing me with their eyes and I was totally unaware. My brother fussed one time that only once he wished a woman would look at him the way they looked at me. I was totally oblivious! I have not bumped pussy since my early college years. Men DO IT for me. Women don't.
 
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I think for some there is just the appreciation for the beauty of the male body. I find the female body beautiful, but don't desire it sexually. I don't see why men can't look at other men through a similar lens and appreciate what they have without it being sexual.
 
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I think for some there is just the appreciation for the beauty of the male body. I find the female body beautiful, but don't desire it sexually. I don't see why men can't look at other men through a similar lens and appreciate what they have without it being sexual.

I have always admired beautiful women, and I have had them in my life. But, I see nothing wrong with seeing another man through a sexual lens. Logically, I feel that way because I am gay. I have seen many men who have given me "shaky knees", but savored the moment because I assume every man I meet is straight unless I learn otherwise.
 

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Because, very slowly, we are breaking through the homophobic wall. Guys like being admired for their bodies. "Straight" guys are finally OK with the idea of other guys admiring them, they aren't scared of someone calling the gay or turning them "gay". Likewise, they can look at another guy admirably as well and not have those same fears.

A few generations down the road, yeah I think the whole gay/straight thing will become passe - sex will be sex, relationships will be relationships, and no one will worry about trying to fit into to arbitrary, abstract boxes. But that is ways away yet, I fear. The big thing for now os to stop worrying about deciding if someone is gay or straight. I hate the gay/straight percentage thing. Yeah it made sense at one point to break the ice over we aren't one or the other. But I think it is time to start dropping those labels altogether.
 

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I think for some there is just the appreciation for the beauty of the male body. I find the female body beautiful, but don't desire it sexually. I don't see why men can't look at other men through a similar lens and appreciate what they have without it being sexual.
I think there was a time not all that long ago where men could. But in recent decades, there is a certain amount of man-shaming where men are made to feel bad about having close friendships to other men (Often derided as "bromance"). Basically the current state of affairs in society seems to be a promotion of women and feminist ideals (not a bad thing), but there seems to also be a backlash against men and masculinity going on at the same time (absolutely a bad thing), and by extension, anything that promotes masculinity in a positive light is discouraged. I believe that the social discouragement of men appreciating the male form in a platonic way is a symptom, or maybe more properly, an extension of that.
 
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As I read more about human sexual orientation and sex, I note that more men who claim to be straight are less rigid about being straight. There are men on LPSG who claim to be straight across a wide percentages of self-description. Yet many of those men are turned on by men's asses and fucking them. In U.S. culture in particular, we have been "indoctrinated" into having to fit into one model and one only. That is why bisexuals come under such mean-spirited assault. I have absolutely no sexual interest women. But there are a few members on this site who are 100% straight and fuck women like wild beasts. When I watch them, it is not the woman who excites me. It is the man, especially when shot from behind while he fucks. Man on man sex does not make a man "gay" if it is a periodic play. I have known about straight men who love to get fucked; and, then will return home to the wife and kids. That is quite natural. And, most often those men hook up with gay men.
 

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Maybe they aren't questions, but it is a discussion that is seeking responses from gay men, and the topic is concerning gay men. If the OP feels more comfortable posting here rather than another forum, why discourage it? I find this thread interesting. I mean there are 76369841 threads asking "what it's like to do anal" or "where to go for gay sex." Don't such threads get boring and old after a while?
 

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As I read more about human sexual orientation and sex, I note that more men who claim to be straight are less rigid about being straight. There are men on LPSG who claim to be straight across a wide percentages of self-description. Yet many of those men are turned on by men's asses and fucking them. In U.S. culture in particular, we have been "indoctrinated" into having to fit into one model and one only. That is why bisexuals come under such mean-spirited assault. I have absolutely no sexual interest women. But there are a few members on this site who are 100% straight and fuck women like wild beasts. When I watch them, it is not the woman who excites me. It is the man, especially when shot from behind while he fucks. Man on man sex does not make a man "gay" if it is a periodic play. I have known about straight men who love to get fucked; and, then will return home to the wife and kids. That is quite natural. And, most often those men hook up with gay men.

You bring up an interesting point that a friend and I have talked about in the past. Straight porn is for the most part focused on cocks. Men putting their cocks in women's hands, asses, mouths and vaginas. It's front and center on the screen. He wondered if straight men ever thought about porn from that perspective. Without derailing the conversation, he also wondered how straight men can enjoy and encourage one form of homosexuality, lesbian porn, but detest another? If nothing else, it's worth a chuckle when you think about it.

Personally I think if it feels good to you, then do it.
 
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You bring up an interesting point that a friend and I have talked about in the past. Straight porn is for the most part focused on cocks. Men putting their cocks in women's hands, asses, mouths and vaginas. It's front and center on the screen. He wondered if straight men ever thought about porn from that perspective. Without derailing the conversation, he also wondered how straight men can enjoy and encourage one form of homosexuality, lesbian porn, but detest another? If nothing else, it's worth a chuckle when you think about it.

Personally I think if it feels good to you, then do it.

Not "cheering for our side", but I believe a number of straight men would enjoy, or do enjoy, sex with another man or men. They simply do not want it to be "gay" by definition or otherwise. Years ago when I first came (MANY years ago!), my partner and I would go to bars in DC near the Marine Barracks. I heard from a number of guys, "Marines love it up the ass. But don't you dare try to kiss them while fucking them. That is just too queer!"
 

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Maybe they aren't questions, but it is a discussion that is seeking responses from gay men, and the topic is concerning gay men. If the OP feels more comfortable posting here rather than another forum, why discourage it? I find this thread interesting. I mean there are 76369841 threads asking "what it's like to do anal" or "where to go for gay sex." Don't such threads get boring and old after a while?

I find that in any given forum here, the average quality of the set of posts that do not follow the rules and premise of the particular forum tends to be lower than those that actually follow the format of the given forum. So I tend to pick on these posts.

In this case, the OP does seem pretty silly to me, in the same old vein of "are Straight men actually not really straight" that's not original and unfortunately immensely common on this site.
 
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