I Love Asians! Who else does?

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I find you attractive. I find men attractive in general. I'm learning more and more to see what I do like in a man than what I think I might not. I use my attraction to his personality and the body features that first catch my eye to drive my arousal for the whole guy. This changes how I see similar men in the future. I used to avoid Asian guys when I was younger but have long since gotten over what was internalized racism that extended to all non lily white men, I just avoided. Missed out on great men.
That's very honest of you man nice
 
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That's very honest of you man nice

Hey I'm a light brown dude who was adopted into a white family and between homophobia and racism I blocked the racism by folding it into the homophobia but it ended up inside me. I have to acknowledge that my choices were racist even if I was never vocal about them. It allowed me to see my own experience of it as well. Just last week some white dude called me a sexy terrorist. For years I laughed that shit off. No more. Truth is no one should have to and part of fixing that is being honest with myself. Racism in sexual preferences is real and it messes people up.
 

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Hey I'm a light brown dude who was adopted into a white family and between homophobia and racism I blocked the racism by folding it into the homophobia but it ended up inside me. I have to acknowledge that my choices were racist even if I was never vocal about them. It allowed me to see my own experience of it as well. Just last week some white dude called me a sexy terrorist. For years I laughed that shit off. No more. Truth is no one should have to and part of fixing that is being honest with myself. Racism in sexual preferences is real and it messes people up.
I totally agree with you man, it takes a lot to be truly honest with yourself. I myself have been at the end of racial Fetishization and the entire preference thing so I understand. I was truly touched by your comment because a lot of gay men have not even reached to the realization
 

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Just last week some white dude called me a sexy terrorist.

Curious... Your features seem more suggestive to me of a strong indigenous influence. Or perhaps Polynesian. Have I got that wrong?

Racism in sexual preferences is real and it messes people up.

What is "racism in sexual preferences", beyond mere racial preference on the basis of actual concentration of certain traits (which, as I explained it, you seemed earlier to think was reasonable)?
 

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how did white men generally become the attractive ones?

We're not. Throughout most of the world, European men represent a slim minority of the population and don't feature to a significant degree in the cultural consciousness. You are just stuck in a part of the world that is dominated by Europeans (I haven't seen you explicitly stated it, but for a few reasons I think it's reasonable to guess you live somewhere in the Western world). You can't derive a universal rule of "White men are generally the attractive ones" from Nudistpig's (which, btw, Canadian society is even more dominated by European presence than the USA is) or your personal experience of how things work in Western countries. Because it inevitably is not going to be that way in much of the world, and perhaps the demographically dominated group is favored wherever one goes. Perhaps you'd be having similar problems if you lived in Kenya instead.

This is just my own line of thinking. Admittedly even me, if I see a 'common white dude' I do find him attractive (although honestly my attraction is towards young looking typical boy next door look). But with asians, blacks and other races, it seems that you have to be above average to be physically attractive. Just strange to me.

What does this even mean? What is physically attractive has some aspects that could be argued to be common (and example being symmetry), but most of it is subjective. Which means there isn't any universally agreeable, equal standard of what could be called attractive across races. I said that I find lighter eye coloration attractive. Given that this trait occurs far more frequently among West Eurasians, the chances of someone meeting my own standard of attractiveness is naturally lower. And that is not something that can be made up. You can't work on your skin or get a great haircut or work out and change that. So assuming that there is some hurdle of a higher standard of common attractiveness that non-European men have to overcome is mistaken. That could be true for some, but isn't true as a rule.
 

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Why should anyone care if you think their preferences are "deeply rooted in racism"?

No one has to care. That’s what separates a thoughtful person from someone who is completely unaware. It’s like someone not acknowledging their privilege. You can pretend white privilege doesn’t exist, or you can acknowledge it and keep it in mind while going through life with other people who experience this world in a different way than yourself because of race.
 

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No one has to care. That’s what separates a thoughtful person from someone who is completely unaware. It’s like someone not acknowledging their privilege. You can pretend white privilege doesn’t exist, or you can acknowledge it and keep it in mind while going through life with other people who experience this world in a different way than yourself because of race.

I'll grant that you're clever. Enough to keep dodging the meat of what I'm trying to get at.

You said a lot of people feel their preferences are "innocent", and contrasted this perceived innocence to preference being possibly "deeply rooted in racism". This is overtly moral language. The only alternatives to innocent are morally aware/awake (no longer naive), or tainted, and you're obviously not using it in the former sense.

By choosing moralistic language to speak of racialized sexual preferences, you make it clear that that you see it as something that people ought to be ashamed of and ought to recognize as rooted in vice. Which is an interesting expectation. So I again ask: why did you communicate that you expect people to be ashamed of it? Why should they care what you think?
 

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I'll grant that you're clever. Enough to keep dodging the meat of what I'm trying to get at.

You said a lot of people feel their preferences are "innocent", and contrasted this perceived innocence to preference being possibly "deeply rooted in racism". This is overtly moral language. The only alternatives to innocent are morally aware/awake (no longer naive), or tainted, and you're obviously not using it in the former sense.

By choosing moralistic language to speak of racialized sexual preferences, you make it clear that that you see it as something that people ought to be ashamed of and ought to recognize as rooted in vice. Which is an interesting expectation. So I again ask: why did you communicate that you expect people to be ashamed of it? Why should they care what you think?

I never said anyone should be ashamed. I do believe people should strive to be a bit more aware of the world we live in. There are so many white Americans who live in bubbles and have no idea how their words and actions shape the way marginalized groups live their lives. It’s unfortunate, and thankfully we are getting closer to a place of equality, but we aren’t there yet.

When the original poster said something along the lines of he feels invisible when walking into clubs and bars and you (or someone else, not sure) said something like “get over it,” it exposed a level of ignorance on intersectionality in this country. Speak to any person of color who attended a PWI (predominantly white institution) and many will also express the same feelings of invisiblity to teachers and/or professors as well as their peers in these environments. Have you heard of Ralph Ellison? He wrote an amazing book titled Invisible Man that I would highly recommend.

We are living in a world where a beautiful actress like Lupita Nyongo can live most of her life feeling as if she is ugly because of a cultural bias towards white beauty (specifically in this country). Again, we are getting better, but to say “get over it” is to attempt to dismisses this man’s experience as an Asian who is clearly in the minority in many spaces he finds himself in.

You can continue to defend the fetishization of whatever race of people you want. It’s not illegal. Personally, and as a person of color, I am required to look a bit below the surface of the “I’m into black women because they have fat asses” comments. Try talking to more non-white people about these things (intersectionality, micro-aggressions, fetishization, etc.) and maybe it will open your eyes.

I hope someday you’ll understand. If not... that’s the funny thing about privilege... it doesn’t really matter for you, does it? ;)

Take care.
 

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I never said anyone should be ashamed. I do believe people should strive to be a bit more aware of the world we live in. There are so many white Americans who live in bubbles and have no idea how their words and actions shape the way marginalized groups live their lives. It’s unfortunate, and thankfully we are getting closer to a place of equality, but we aren’t there yet.

When the original poster said something along the lines of he feels invisible when walking into clubs and bars and you (or someone else, not sure) said something like “get over it,” it exposed a level of ignorance on intersectionality in this country. Speak to any person of color who attended a PWI (predominantly white institution) and many will also express the same feelings of invisiblity to teachers and/or professors as well as their peers in these environments. Have you heard of Ralph Ellison? He wrote an amazing book titled Invisible Man that I would highly recommend.

We are living in a world where a beautiful actress like Lupita Nyongo can live most of her life feeling as if she is ugly because of a cultural bias towards white beauty (specifically in this country). Again, we are getting better, but to say “get over it” is to attempt to dismisses this man’s experience as an Asian who is clearly in the minority in many spaces he finds himself in.

You can continue to defend the fetishization of whatever race of people you want. It’s not illegal. Personally, and as a person of color, I am required to look a bit below the surface of the “I’m into black women because they have fat asses” comments. Try talking to more non-white people about these things (intersectionality, micro-aggressions, fetishization, etc.) and maybe it will open your eyes.

I hope someday you’ll understand. If not... that’s the funny thing about privilege... it doesn’t really matter for you, does it? ;)

Take care.

Thank you.
 

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I think it is possible to over-analyse this kind of thing sometimes. Sexual racism definitely does exist, but simple preferences are also sometimes just that, with no sinister baggage attached. Like Freud said, sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.
 
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I think it is possible to over-analyse this kind of thing sometimes. Sexual racism definitely does exist, but simple preferences are also sometimes just that, with no sinister baggage attached. Like Freud said, sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

Are you white?
 
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No. Not at all, which is strange because I think Asian women overall are very beautiful.

Just to be clear, I mean no disrespect toward Asian men. It's just my preference. There have been exceptions, of course and if you'd like photos of them the please PM.

I'm sure there are exceptions over all nationalities regardless of your primary attraction. People are people and if you get to know and love someone it matters not one iota of their race, religion, color, etc.