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i love to see my str8 friends hard cocks what do you think ?

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My best friend is a str8 guy, and dont know im gay, one day in my room we watched porn(str8porn), we get hard and i asked him lemme see it. It was a small one but i liked the shape, i took it in my hand without his permission. he said stop but i didnt and he came about in 3 min. after that he said i dont wanna talk about it, he was so shy, and we are still friends.
i like to see my friends cocks so what do you think and do u have stories like me?
 

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My best friend is a str8 guy, and dont know im gay, one day in my room we watched porn(str8porn), we get hard and i asked him lemme see it. It was a small one but i liked the shape, i took it in my hand without his permission. he said stop but i didnt and he came about in 3 min. after that he said i dont wanna talk about it, he was so shy, and we are still friends.
i like to see my friends cocks so what do you think and do u have stories like me?

Hasn't anyone ever told you, no means no?
 

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In the authors defense, I as a straight guy having experienced similar encounters from the other side, believe a certain degree of forwardness and presumption of acquiescence is a prerequisite for such cross orientation encounters and would and have suggested that gay or bi guys need to simply go for it without seeking explicit consent for one simple reason. While most guys are on some level either curious or desperate enough to potentially allow you to, say, fondle, and or blow them, they are likely to deny an explicit request for consent out of fear you will demand some form of reciprocation, seek to fuck them or have them fuck you, or that allowing something to happen will somehow become common knowledge in the community where deep stigma still keeps most of us from wanting any such association with these activities. Thus the boundaries will be lower if you are outside of his circle and community, only seek unreciprocated interaction, keep your clothes on and dick put away, and heed repeated or strident denials as he then is obviously serious about them, but if you first ask, he is likely to say no out of hand, but if you can encounter him with it out, he responds by boning to your sight and touch and you can quickly move to sucking him, even while he may be stunned to speechlessness by the directness and immediacy of your action, i think once the original hurdle is surmounted and you are actively pleasuring him he will find it much more compelling and harder to deny you than if you were to ask first. Yeah , he may still utter a wait, no, what are you doing, stop etc initially and you must judge by his tone etc the degree to which he is insistent, and possibly push through one or two of these before he acquiesces and decides to allow and enjoy the experience, but i think without this approach it would almost never happen. If he continues to persist or becomes angry or threatening you should desist and apologize and perhaps apologize anyway when its over, but I believe once he is reassured that it doesn’t imply that you will insist upon further things or reciprocation and that you really were just trying to give him a gift of sorts and this ice is broken he will very likely take to it with enthusiasm in the future and even seek repeat encounters. Also in this instance there was a degree of tacit consent in taking it out for you when asked. He had to have had some sense of why you would ask and has some complicity in the outcome by engaging in this way. I myself am open to being admired and worshipped and nothing more, and therefore once i know that is the extent of what will be pursued, can relax in comfort and enjoy the experience for the most part in most instances. Moments of awkwardness can and do still arise, but knowing that you are so desired as to inspire this sort of seeming insistent need can also be very alluring and my body always responds enthusiastically even where my head harbors doubts. It is your job to ultimately allay them and provide an experience compelling enough to overcome them.
 

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I hope you never encounter my friendship because if you did that to me I would likely elbow you in the nose and if that didn’t stop you I’d throat punch. At that point we most likely won’t be friends any longer.

I have listed my percentage as straight, however I know I’m bisexual in favor of women but have not nor will I have any contact without the full permission of my partner. All of which has nothing to do with consent. No means no.
 

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I hope you never encounter my friendship because if you did that to me I would likely elbow you in the nose and if that didn’t stop you I’d throat punch. At that point we most likely won’t be friends any longer.

I have listed my percentage as straight, however I know I’m bisexual in favor of women but have not nor will I have any contact without the full permission of my partner. All of which has nothing to do with consent. No means no.
so you're not straight lol
 

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In the authors defense, I as a straight guy having experienced similar encounters from the other side, believe a certain degree of forwardness and presumption of acquiescence is a prerequisite for such cross orientation encounters and would and have suggested that gay or bi guys need to simply go for it without seeking explicit consent for one simple reason. While most guys are on some level either curious or desperate enough to potentially allow you to, say, fondle, and or blow them, they are likely to deny an explicit request for consent out of fear you will demand some form of reciprocation, seek to fuck them or have them fuck you, or that allowing something to happen will somehow become common knowledge in the community where deep stigma still keeps most of us from wanting any such association with these activities. Thus the boundaries will be lower if you are outside of his circle and community, only seek unreciprocated interaction, keep your clothes on and dick put away, and heed repeated or strident denials as he then is obviously serious about them, but if you first ask, he is likely to say no out of hand, but if you can encounter him with it out, he responds by boning to your sight and touch and you can quickly move to sucking him, even while he may be stunned to speechlessness by the directness and immediacy of your action, i think once the original hurdle is surmounted and you are actively pleasuring him he will find it much more compelling and harder to deny you than if you were to ask first. Yeah , he may still utter a wait, no, what are you doing, stop etc initially and you must judge by his tone etc the degree to which he is insistent, and possibly push through one or two of these before he acquiesces and decides to allow and enjoy the experience, but i think without this approach it would almost never happen. If he continues to persist or becomes angry or threatening you should desist and apologize and perhaps apologize anyway when its over, but I believe once he is reassured that it doesn’t imply that you will insist upon further things or reciprocation and that you really were just trying to give him a gift of sorts and this ice is broken he will very likely take to it with enthusiasm in the future and even seek repeat encounters. Also in this instance there was a degree of tacit consent in taking it out for you when asked. He had to have had some sense of why you would ask and has some complicity in the outcome by engaging in this way. I myself am open to being admired and worshipped and nothing more, and therefore once i know that is the extent of what will be pursued, can relax in comfort and enjoy the experience for the most part in most instances. Moments of awkwardness can and do still arise, but knowing that you are so desired as to inspire this sort of seeming insistent need can also be very alluring and my body always responds enthusiastically even where my head harbors doubts. It is your job to ultimately allay them and provide an experience compelling enough to overcome them.

So, rape is okay so long as the victim is the same sex as the rapist?

Interesting...
 

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i guess i did not make things clear, he is my best friend, we have been seeing our dicks hard for long time anyway. he is just homophobic. After a while when we talk about it he admitted he liked it and im still milking him when he wants
Regardless of what he may actually like now, In that moment when he was saying no, you became a fucking creep. He literally was saying no, and you ignored that request.
 

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So, rape is okay so long as the victim is the same sex as the rapist?

Interesting...
Not in the least. I specifically precluded seeking sex if you read it, or reciprocation, or pushing beyond anything but trivial reflexive resistance. That is hardly a wholesale endorsement of rape.
 
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Consent is always most important. Bad first story for such a great thread title so il try to save it. I have a friend who I've known for years and he regularly sends me pictures of him naked (I think he's an exhibitionist) and I think it's fucking great. I've never told him I wank over these pictures but he must know. It's so hot knowing what your friends look like naked and what their cocks look like hard. I've seen others too by flicking through friends pictures on their phones and accidently seeing them. I wish they were all like my other friend
 

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I've many situations like this with my straight friends, but I ALWAYS ask permission before I take it further because I know it's a complete new experience to them. I know it can be "awkward" I guess at first because it gives you the feeling as if you're asking your teacher to use the restroom, but It's actually really important. When we watch porn involving "straight men going gay" , It's scripted for gay men pressuring straight dudes and taking over, but in reality, it's not like that. Porn scripts are not reality. I know maybe you're "into that", but I've had the rolls reversed and people do things to me that I've said no to, which actually can be really hard for some people because they're not used to holding boundaries and speaking up, and afterwards I feel vulnerable and hurt that my words meant nothing to the other person.
Every time I've ever hooked up with one of my straight friends who are having a curious moment, most of the time I let them take over, but if I were to ever take it further myself, I always ask if It's okay with them, because I would never want them to feel uncomfortable or disregarded. They're already in a vulnerable situation trying something new, so why ruin it by pressuring them? If I go to kiss them, I ask. If I touch their body, I ask. If I wanted to touch their dick, I ask. And so on... You need to realize that and I think you're justifying your actions because you don't want to admit you did anything wrong.
 

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This is going to sound strange but the longest kinda-sorta relationship I had was with a straight guy. I'm a weird sort of guy. I'm attracted to guys. I don't care for the company of females at all. I find them boring and taxing to be around for any length of time. I do go to gay bars occasionally, actually not so much many more. I used to close them down when I was a kid. That was just to get partners for sex. I was never really interested in a "gay" relationship. You know boyfriend type stuff. That just wasn't my deal. I had two gay friends in my entire life that were just friends, no sex. We did a lot of stuff together. Neither one was the typical gay guy. They weren't necessarily "straight acting" whatever that means. They were just guys...you know buddies. I say that because I really loved them very much. Most of my very close friends all my life were straight guys. Some of them knew about me. Some didn't. I always had a policy that it was my business...period. That being said, if someone asked me a direct question, I gave them a direct answer. Lying is so junior high school. I'm not good at it at all. So, yes, I had straight guy friends that didn't know about me, to my knowledge, that I loved very much but wasn't attracted sexually to them in the least.

Ok, So that is out to the way. The straight guy I first mentioned was Cole. We met one night in Lew Sterrett in Dallas Texas in 1988. I was in grad school in NE Texas. I had come into Dallas with friends for Texas-OU weekend. I was picked up for a plain ole D&D. He was picked up for PI & PL. The drunk tank was way full that night. It always is on weekends like that. I am guessing things are different nowadays in jails but back then they just threw a bunch of drunk guys together in a holding cell and basically left us there. Back then I was not a tiny guy but I was skinny. Drunks are assholes and this one kept on trying to start something with me. Cole, who was a sizeable guy, just stepped in. Don't know why. Didn't much care. He didn't do much. He was an intimidating guy. He sat next to me. We were there for 12 hours. They herded us through at a window they set up. We got adjudicated and a court date. He didn't have a ride and I didn't have a ride so we caught a cab together. He was staying with a guy over in the village apts. Geez it was a mess. I had hitched with someone down to Dallas. This was before cell phones guys. I had no way of contacting anyone. I was 24. He was 28. We looked like Mutt and Jeff together. He was from OK. He had done 8 years in the Army. His mom signed for him. She was diagnosed with stage 4 liver cancer. She wanted him to be somewhere they could take care of him and teach him a trade. He scored an 85 which is pretty high on the ASVAB. So he went into the army. He didn't talk much about his military service. He had a good number of tats though. I digress.

We clicked from the start. He kicked around a lot. I started doing the same thing once I graduated. Come to think of it, It was probably meeting him that set my life on a very different path form what I thought I'd do. Anyway, we kept in touch. He came down alot. He went out alot. Not gay bars mind you, we went to titty bars and the like. We got to be good friends. I graduated the next year. I didn't know what I was going to do. He had been roughnecking. He had been a bouncer. He worked a road crew. He made a shitload of money. He was doing fitness training. The guy was built like a truck.

He was one of those guys that is "almost" hot. Almost like the male version of a "butter face". He was ok from the neck up. He wasn't really handsome. He wasn't really ugly. He was just average. Maybe a skooch better than average. He did have flawless teeth...& dimples. However, from the neck down...it was like Katy bar the door. The man had the body of a god. Geez Louise he was just perfect everywhere. Anyway, I I hadn't even thought about him in any sort of sexual way. I learned the hard way about going after straight guys...so no thanks! Besides he was my buddy. I digress again.

Anyway the year I graduated I was looking around for something to do. Well, he had gotten hooked up with this agency that hired people for cruise lines. He had done a stint on a boat in the Caribbean in the spring. He said it was fun and the pay wasn't terrible and you got to travel. So he talked to the guy he dealt t with and there was this cruise job coming up in the summer just a few weeks after graduation. It was in Alaska. It was for a person who knew art. I had a MFA, so great. It was auctions and the like. The cruises were mostly older people. It was for the summer season, 5 cruises. I was like ok. I'll try it.

I had no idea he was going to be on the ticket too. We were on all five cruises together. We bunked together. It was tons of fun. Ok, let me tell you this. Cole was a great buddy to have. The best friend any guy would ever want. He was also a kinda sleazy person. If you were his friend, he would do anything for you. If you weren't, he'd scam, steal from or hornswoggle you anyway possible. He would work the old ladies on the boats for anything he could get. I didn't like it but I ignored it. He was actually a much more worldly person than I. Ok, this is the other thing. He liked women for sex. He liked women for money. He really didn't like them for much else. He really didn't like women. I didn't either. So we were great together.

He was a tough guy. He was always getting into a pickle with law enforcement. I was there to talk them out of charging him or at last mitigating the outcome. He was an exhibitionist. Most guys that have big dicks are. He was a show-er mostly but a bit of a grow-er too. He had one of the three largest penises I've ever seen personally. His was pretty too. We did that whole cruise together. I made some good money and I saw Alaska. Good deal.

I had known the guy for less than a year. It was fun but I wanted something more permanent. I got a few interviews for teaching positions...not what I had in mind. I was doing my own thing. So, he shows up again wanting me to do a Caribbean thing this time. I was like ok, fine. This is the other thing about him. He is one of those personalities that either you love him or hate him. There isn't any middle ground. He could talk me into anything. This time it wasn't a geriatric cruise. It was a good mix. We didn't room together this time. He was in a bigger room with the other fitness guy. I was in a closet...no pun intended. I mean the room was miniscule. So, we did that for 3 months. He wanted to go elsewhere. I wanted to stay put. So, I got a place with a college friend in Coral Springs. He and I had completely different schedules so I'd never see him. Cole went to Spain I think.

He showed back up in town in time for the summer cruises. By that time I was ready to go. I'm rambling. It is a character flaw. Summer cruises are short. We got a place in the Keys. It was awesome. It comes down to one night. We were home. We got along great. He was the best guy to have as a friend. I had seen him naked alot. I'd been in the room with him screwing women from the ship while on cruises. It honestly never entered my mind about approaching him sexually. This night we were just there drinking, He and I both had a booze problem. He wasn't drunk and neither was I. He just asked me point blank, "Are you gay or something?" I literally said, "Kinda".

Ok, next was the weirdest thing ever. He told me I could suck his dick if I ate his butt. He said he had always wanted to know what that felt like and could never get anyone to go for it. OK, so I like guys. However, there is a lot about gay sex that is just gross to me. A rim job is one of those things. I never wanted to do it. A few days went by and this time we were stone cold sober. He wanted to have a serious talk. I honestly thought he was going to leave or ask me to leave. So no he didn't. I had never had a conversation like this before nor ever had again.

We literally say down and talked about everything. I mean for 3 hours. He reiterated how much he wanted to be rimmed. His assumption was that all gay men did that and really wanted to do that and would be excited about doing that....especially to a straight guy with a big dick. He also thought all gay men would do just about anything to get his cock. Ok so much for stereotypes. I asked him what he would do if I fell in love with him. He assumed I was already in love with him. I was like...really? I have to say I was pissed. I felt insulted. I wanted to leave but I really couldn't. My name was on the frigging lease.

The guy that never apologized for anything, apologized to me. His exact words were, "I know you are pissed at me. I don't know exactly what I did. I'm sorry for whatever it was. I need you to be my friend. We can work this out."

This is what we worked out. We talked all this out. He didn't want to kiss on the mouth. I didn't either so that was a no-brainer. He told me to NEVER expect reciprocation in any way. He would never do anal anything. He said he would never be my boyfriend. I was to never refer to him as my boyfriend, even if he wasn't around. I didn't want a boyfriend. So, that was easy. He didn't ever want me to tell him I loved him. He was even so arrogant as to say, even if you DO fall in love with me, I don't want to know about it. AND...he wanted to be rimmed a minimum of once a week whenever we were "in the mode." Those were his terms. O plus nothing on the face at all...not just the mouth thing. I could do mostly whatever I wanted from the neck down. O and I was to be fully clothed when doing any of the "stuff".

My terms were that he had to tell me if he was getting serious about a female...promptly. If he wanted a blow job or I wanted to do a BJ, he had to tell me if he had been with a female and not taken a bath. I am way paranoid about HPV. I shaved his butthole. I didn't like the way hair felt doing the rimjob. It made me want to hurl. He wasn't super hairy but his butt crack had more than I wanted. He didn't like that but he agreed. He eventually wanted me to manscape him periodically. He did the fitness comps for a while when we were in FL. He was to NEVER force my head down on him. He was very big. It took time and practice to learn to get that thing down as far as I did.

We both agreed to get tested often for everything. He agreed to a hepatitis vax. We also agreed when either one got tired of the arrangement, we would tell the other and not just ride it out. It was weird. I never talked about this to any of my other friends. It was none of their business. We would do something together every year. It was either a road-trip or some sort of contract job. Sometimes it was a few weeks. Sometimes it was a few months. This lasted 14 years. I was never in a serious relationship with anyone. He got married twice during that time. Neither marriage lasted more than a couple of years. He has four kids. Two were from his first marriage before I ever met him. The other two were with women he screwed around with...not even a steady girlfriend.

Neither of us ever broke our own rules. I was 39 and he was 43 when we stopped. It was just time to do it. We still keep in touch. It would be weird to not have him around. When they legalized gay marriage, he actually called me up and said we should get married. We were both old dudes. I was never a big proponent of gay marriage. I think it's silly. He was serious though. He told me that I meant more to him than anyone. The sad thing is, I love everything about him. I've just never been in love with him.
 
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In the authors defense, I as a straight guy having experienced similar encounters from the other side, believe a certain degree of forwardness and presumption of acquiescence is a prerequisite for such cross orientation encounters and would and have suggested that gay or bi guys need to simply go for it without seeking explicit consent for one simple reason. While most guys are on some level either curious or desperate enough to potentially allow you to, say, fondle, and or blow them, they are likely to deny an explicit request for consent out of fear you will demand some form of reciprocation, seek to fuck them or have them fuck you, or that allowing something to happen will somehow become common knowledge in the community where deep stigma still keeps most of us from wanting any such association with these activities. Thus the boundaries will be lower if you are outside of his circle and community, only seek unreciprocated interaction, keep your clothes on and dick put away, and heed repeated or strident denials as he then is obviously serious about them, but if you first ask, he is likely to say no out of hand, but if you can encounter him with it out, he responds by boning to your sight and touch and you can quickly move to sucking him, even while he may be stunned to speechlessness by the directness and immediacy of your action, i think once the original hurdle is surmounted and you are actively pleasuring him he will find it much more compelling and harder to deny you than if you were to ask first. Yeah , he may still utter a wait, no, what are you doing, stop etc initially and you must judge by his tone etc the degree to which he is insistent, and possibly push through one or two of these before he acquiesces and decides to allow and enjoy the experience, but i think without this approach it would almost never happen. If he continues to persist or becomes angry or threatening you should desist and apologize and perhaps apologize anyway when its over, but I believe once he is reassured that it doesn’t imply that you will insist upon further things or reciprocation and that you really were just trying to give him a gift of sorts and this ice is broken he will very likely take to it with enthusiasm in the future and even seek repeat encounters. Also in this instance there was a degree of tacit consent in taking it out for you when asked. He had to have had some sense of why you would ask and has some complicity in the outcome by engaging in this way. I myself am open to being admired and worshipped and nothing more, and therefore once i know that is the extent of what will be pursued, can relax in comfort and enjoy the experience for the most part in most instances. Moments of awkwardness can and do still arise, but knowing that you are so desired as to inspire this sort of seeming insistent need can also be very alluring and my body always responds enthusiastically even where my head harbors doubts. It is your job to ultimately allay them and provide an experience compelling enough to overcome them.
That's a very interesting post and nice to see a straight person's viewpoint. So it sounds like you have had several of these encounters with no reciprocation on your part. Just curious.......what are your boundaries? Would you let a guy eat your ass, for example?
 

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That's a very interesting post and nice to see a straight person's viewpoint. So it sounds like you have had several of these encounters with no reciprocation on your part. Just curious.......what are your boundaries? Would you let a guy eat your ass, for example?
On a couple of occasions I have, but it is am awkward circumstance, particularly when uncertain if such is done as a preamble for an attempt at further incursion which would cross my hardline boundary. In short mine are no fucking of any kind given or received, no kissing or romantic overtures, and i want nothing to do with another dick or his ass, not even to see them or have them out in my presence, in fact i want him clothed and focused fully on the task at hand and no crushing, falling in love, stalking or mention of the encounter publicly or to anyone but me and generally not getting weird about it in any regard and no presumptions about it green lighting further or repeat encounters automatically. Nobody should be able to surmise or extrapolate the fact of the matter by his word, behavior or our interaction.
 

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On a couple of occasions I have, but it is am awkward circumstance, particularly when uncertain if such is done as a preamble for an attempt at further incursion which would cross my hardline boundary. In short mine are no fucking of any kind given or received, no kissing or romantic overtures, and i want nothing to do with another dick or his ass, not even to see them or have them out in my presence, in fact i want him clothed and focused fully on the task at hand and no crushing, falling in love, stalking or mention of the encounter publicly or to anyone but me and generally not getting weird about it in any regard and no presumptions about it green lighting further or repeat encounters automatically. Nobody should be able to surmise or extrapolate the fact of the matter by his word, behavior or our interaction.
Sounds like you are embarrassed of it.
 
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i guess i did not make things clear, he is my best friend, we have been seeing our dicks hard for long time anyway. he is just homophobic. After a while when we talk about it he admitted he liked it and im still milking him when he wants
So he absolutely knows your gay now. I've had guys freak out and never want to be friends when they found out. I've also had guys tell me they knew already. Some were told. Some figured it out. Most didn't care. Some just faded out. I'm rocking around to 60 and have had 6 actual encounters, either sexual or something near that, with actual heterosexual men. Two were bad. Two were way bad. One was yawn. The one I recounted here was ok. I know a lot of people on here are going to say he wasn't too straight if it lasted for years. Maybe not. I do know I was the only guy he ever did anything with more than once. I mean he was in the military, for Pete's sake. It happens!
 

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On a couple of occasions I have, but it is am awkward circumstance, particularly when uncertain if such is done as a preamble for an attempt at further incursion which would cross my hardline boundary. In short mine are no fucking of any kind given or received, no kissing or romantic overtures, and i want nothing to do with another dick or his ass, not even to see them or have them out in my presence, in fact i want him clothed and focused fully on the task at hand and no crushing, falling in love, stalking or mention of the encounter publicly or to anyone but me and generally not getting weird about it in any regard and no presumptions about it green lighting further or repeat encounters automatically. Nobody should be able to surmise or extrapolate the fact of the matter by his word, behavior or our interaction.
I have found that to be a topic among straight guys more in the past few years than ever before. All of my friends, you know buddies, now are straight married older guys with kids and grandkids. I still have alot of younger guys I communicate with on a regular basis, mostly for work. I do game character design and use a ton of live models. I just hate the generation software. Everything looks so samey. I digress.

Since I have very limited interaction with females in any type of personal manner, can you tell me how many women actually go for this now. I'm talking about rimming. Back in the day, a woman would have considered being asked to do that as a huge insult and see it as casting aspersions on her femaleness. You know the whole feminist schtick. Has that changed?
 
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Regardless of what he may actually like now, In that moment when he was saying no, you became a fucking creep. He literally was saying no, and you ignored that request.
this is very common for men to be aggressive and not take no for an answer...and like it or not, often it becomes a gateway to acceptable behavior...this is on a case by case basis, of course.
 
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