I switch to watching fox news

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I'm wondering how the BBC a government financed entity became the American Gold Standard to which all news is judged? While I am a regular watcher of the BBC they certianly have a slant also.
 
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Fox is far more than a slant. They've slanted to the point of falling off a cliff and journalism is the corpse at the bottom.

FOX NEWS INSIDER: “Stuff Is Just Made Up”

Fox News is run as a purely partisan operation, virtually every news story is actively spun by the staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, and that staffers at Fox News routinely operate without the slightest regard for fairness or fact checking.
 
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I'm wondering how the BBC a government financed entity became the American Gold Standard to which all news is judged? While I am a regular watcher of the BBC they certianly have a slant also.

I look at it this way. BBC is a British (IOW not American) news service. As such, they are outside observers, and closer to being a disinterested third party.

CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS...these are all American based, and as such, are much more likely to be influenced by their own spin on what are, essentially, local American events.

It's the same basic reason that I would not consider Cuban TV to be an unbiased source of information about Castro, or N Korean TV an unbiased source about Kim Jong Un. Neither the CNN love-fest nor the FOX hatred of Obama could be considered, in any way, the neutral opinion of a disinterested third party.

That's why I'm so interested in the results of the OP's experience. Each outlet has its own version of spin...
 

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When I was young, the news was just that. News was not entertainment, not one-sided opinion. It was what actually happened in the world. It wasn't totally without bias. We always got the US version of things (unfortunately), but at least the news was nearly completely a factual presentation of what happened in the world (with the goal to be factual, not opinionated or entertaining). The opinions were a small part of the news, and they were called commentaries. The networks clearly stated that those parts of the news that were opinions, were opinions, not the news. They distinguished between the two. Also, the news was presented with a true balanced approach (not the so-called "fair and balanced" approach that fox claims; they don't present anything that is fair or balanced; they never have). The Fairness Doctrine required news organizations to present opinions from opposite points of view, not just one. The viewer could listen to those opposing view points on the news and make informed decisions for themselves. That is not the case today. This reasonable and intelligent approach to news stopped when we, in the US, were given the "gift" of the reagan regime. Those in power during that time began the destruction of the laws that required the heads of the media to be responsibile to the public by presenting the news fairly, balanced, and FACTUALLY. We have steadily gone downhill to become greedy, illogical, unreasonable, uncaring, and uninformed citizens to the point that we are nearing illiteracy, being dumbed to the pointed of seeking nothing but entertainment, and believing that we should be fearful of everything and everyone that isn't wealthy, white, christian, male, and is part of that "living being" called a corporation. The sooner we reverse this decline of our society (the orchestration of fear and creation of stupidity by the right-wing), the sooner we will become a society that puts education, caring, respect, and sharing first in the lives of its members.
 

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When I was young, the news was just that. News was not entertainment, not one-sided opinion. It was what actually happened in the world.

You're a bit older than me, so you can remember when people also trusted the news anchor. What Walter Cronkite said was Gospel, because HE is the one who said it. And, that was enough.

It was a simpler time, more trusting, and in retrospect, quite naive. And, also in retrospect, the networks were quite complicit, when it came to projecting the propaganda desired by the government, for "national security" or any number of other reasons.

In fairness, it was also an age when reporters/journalists seemed to have some concept of ethics, and understood the phrase "loose lips sink ships."

with the goal to be factual, not opinionated or entertaining). The opinions were a small part of the news, and they were called commentaries.

I remember some of this, first hand. And, I remember the very publicized claims that the news is a sacred duty, yada yada. Very touching...if you believed it.

But for anyone to deny the fact that broadcast TV, news included, was and still is a business, is to cling irrationally to that old naivete.

Anyone remember the show Max Headroom? Rather surprisingly prescient.

The sooner we reverse this decline of our society (the orchestration of fear and creation of stupidity by the right-wing), the sooner we will become a society that puts education, caring, respect, and sharing first in the lives of its members.

I *genuinely* believe that both sides share the fault, as do a number of other parties, including we the consumers. After all, it is we who buy what they are selling.

This constant need to blame, solely, the "right wing" for all the perceived ills of society is becoming quite tiresome.
 

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Many on this site will tell you that FoxNews is horribly biased, but let's face it, all the news channels are biased. both.

A LOT of people on this site have a very hard time distinguishing Fox News programming from Fox opinion programming. It's really not that hard.

Fox News programming isn't biased at all...and Fox opinion shows routinely feature both sides of one argument. Greta isn't biased at all. Bill and Sean do have a conservative tilt that bothers some people (although I don't know how anyone could bothered by fiscal responsibility and lower taxes...but some people just have to whine).
 

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Just a heads up. That sig really makes you out to be an asshole.
If you knew what my signature meant you might think differently...I'm a proud asshole... I gave eight years of my life in the service of this country...ever been shot at or had the shit blown out of your Humvee while driving down the road or seen peoples blood guts and body parts splattered all over the streets? It's really loads of fun. You should try it sometime. Nah I guess its better to stay home stroke dick, smoke dope, watch the left wing propaganda network that is MSNBC and kill baby girls because mommy wanted a boy. Luv Ya Libs you make me proud. :squintfinger:

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If you knew what my signature meant you might think differently...I'm a proud asshole... I gave eight years of my life in the service of this country...ever been shot at or had the shit blown out of your Humvee while driving down the road or seen peoples blood guts and body parts splattered all over the streets? It's really loads of fun. You should try it sometime. Nah I guess its better to stay home stroke dick, smoke dope, watch the left wing propaganda network that is MSNBC and kill baby girls because mommy wanted a boy. Luv Ya Libs you make me proud. :squintfinger:

OOOHHH RAAAAA MF's

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Yep, I knew it. (Jingoist, is that really you?)
That's the exact 'tude that makes US sooooo proud, plus it keeps pissing off enough people around the world to keep you in business indefinitely.

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