I think i know how to seduce 'straight' guys.

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It certainly seems like our society is on the way there- but i feel bad when i hear guys who are upset because someone of the same gender finds them attractive- AND when that dumbass doesn't know how to accept that NO means NO. After all the same rejection happens all the time between men and women- life is about connecting with others- or, not.

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I get really annoyed by gays who deliberately chase after straight men with the sole intention of 'bedding' and 'converting' them. I don't know why they do it

Gay men are attracted to masculinity. Most straight men are masculine, and vice-versa. Being straight is well-correlated with masculinity. I think that this is the reason.

The egalitarian idea of homosexuality in the contemporary West is confused, so it confuses gay men. They spend a lot of time trying to appear as masculine as possible for each other while, inside, there is a submissive, quivering pussy (which I mean in a positive sense). In previous times, and in other cultures in our own time (e.g., Latino), many gay men accept reality and feminize themselves in one way or another. (Witness the trans explosion in Brazil.) Not all gay men can, or want to, pull this off. I grant that. But it makes much more sense that those boys attracted to men should present themselves to straight men as feminized pussyboys or shemales. This truly respects the straight men as straight and avoids silly stuff like leather personas, etc.
 

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The terms are confusing - 'straight' and 'str8' are not really interchangeable. 'Straight' is plainly obvious, but 'str8' typivally to refer to a guy who sees himself/seen by others as mostly 'straight', but has 'bi-curious' leanings and experiences. Terminology is a minefield so be careful.....
 

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Did I miss a memo regarding {str8) as biC? Hmmmmm

I don't agree that gay men should feminize themselves so that they can be understood by straight men easier- for many guys that would be very out of character for them- and traumatic.

Again I say it's all about human interactions between like minded men, and others with opposing or skewed viewpoints and behaviors. Our society no longer seems equipped to teach basic rules of interaction, and so a guy might not be socially adept at responding to a situation that he doesn't understand or appreciate. What matters is how he responds.

Consider that m/m sex and relationships have been around since Adam and STEVE (SORRY BAD JOKE). Ok, forever. Guys used to know how to gracefully say "no thank you' towards an unwanted flirtation, or they'd clobber the guy. Both seemed socially the norm, and, well, acceptable responses. Now there is too much anger, fear, resentment, and gender confusion to allow a cool-headed level response- and the physical response can get you sued or worse.

To get back to the original post, "seduction of a straight man" ... the op had kernels of truth. He was advocating that two men bond around our base shared love of sex- and that openness and physical interactions would possibly follow. Unlikely, but possible- if using this new definition, the straight guy was really str8 and would, over time, allow his gruff exterior to be privately penetrated (bad joke again) by a properly manscaped one-eyed monster.

It all comes down to some guys wanting that kind of relationship as part of their life, or NOT. Male affirmation can come in many forms- and not all of it must be homoerotic. I'd wager a side bet, to a lesser reliable degree, that these men were never taught how to have great male relationships growing up, due to a lack of a demonstrated role model, and they are the ones who fear that friendship with an open hearted, open minded gay or bisexual might require the ultimate sacrifice on their part... naked time! (shocking) and so they literally or emotionally flee the scene.

We are who we are, and you really can't change that. If an attraction is one-sided it might be due to admiration of beauty, or character, or money, or any other number of factors out there that have been bringing couples (gay or straight) together forever. How do we handle an unwanted advance? Politely say "thanks no thanks" smile, and move on. Come on Guys, remember the dating ratio of scores to strikeouts? This still holds true.

And now a word to the apparent offender- to the guy who makes a mission to take mr straight down to BJ town by an elaborate plan of introducing beer and porn... can you think of something more constructive to do with your Saturday night? A marriage could break up over something like that- and nowadays we really need solid families to try to teach the new generation how to fix the shit our grandfathers left us. This isn't right or left- this is reparations.

I feel bad for that guy, actually, because it would seem that his axe to grind with society comes from destruction in his own life. At least a lack of some sort. If he had love in his home he wouldn't be on a mission to try to find it in a place where it wasn't being offered.

So in all the camps out there it seems like education, tolerance, and more interpersonal communication is needed - a tall order when you consider that men don't really talk to begin with- and especially not during March Madness.

Dads with young boys- I charge you to plan a men-only camping trip with your boys for late this spring- take a risk, break down the barriers, talk, and LISTEN- and train your boys to act and behave like they have a pair. Maybe the rest of us can someday catch up.
 

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Str8 means just that.and str8 guys dont play that.We are interested in only one thing...PUSSY!

Not according to straight women. They're not only interested in the one thing you are.

Being "str8" doesn't only begin and end with the guys. Just because some people prefer only being with one type doesn't mean that they also have to be difficult about it when someone of the same sex approaches them. I'm gay and in some instances get approached or hit on by other women. But despite my preferences I'm not a prick about it. That's the main issue.
 

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I don't agree that trying to convert someone is either ethical or possible. However, that being said, the world is full of gay and bisexual men who insist they are 100% straight. If the truth ever comes out I think the numbers are going to shock a lot of people. We'll find about 10% is fully gay (roughly the size of the openly gay community today) about 10% is fully straight and everyone else falls in the middle. Yes, bisexuals are in the majority. That's why it's so hard for people to believe that sexual orientation is not a choice.
 

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I think the OP made his target clear by usuing quotes around the word "straight". He is apparently referring to men that are somewhat blurred in their sexual orientation, but describe themselves to others as being straight (hence the quotes.) Exerting sexual energy attempting to seduce men who, in fact, are truly straight would certainly be a frustrating and disappointing road to travel down. I think the OP would agree.
 

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I think the OP made his target clear by usuing quotes around the word "straight". He is apparently referring to men that are somewhat blurred in their sexual orientation, but describe themselves to others as being straight (hence the quotes.) Exerting sexual energy attempting to seduce men who, in fact, are truly straight would certainly be a frustrating and disappointing road to travel down. I think the OP would agree.
No, he explains that the quotation marks are there because he doesn't believe in heterosexulas or homosexuals. To him, straight men do not exist. He goes on to specify men who prefer women and only see women in their future. You know. A heterosexual. For people like the OP, their belief that their definition of another man's sexuality overrules that man's self identity creates a slippery slope. It's so disrespectful.
 
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You know what ? a lot of people here say "nope" and i see their sexual orientation said 100% straight..
come on.. if you are really straight, why would you open this topic in the first place ?? it just shown that you guys are curious....

i dont see why not if you have even tempted to open and comment on this post :)
100% straight ?? come on.. give me a break !
 

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I need more straight male friends in order to try this out! Probably doesn't work since they know I'm gay...

Right. I really don't have anything to say about this kind of advice. I've never had sex with a woman so I wouldn't know how to start a conversation of that nature. When it has happened with me with a "straight man" it just happens. I don't find a need to seek it out. I did find the post and the responses interesting, though. I'm alway interested in learning more on how those that are bisexual think and feel. As I do I get hurt less by them and have greater understanding of where they're at. In earlier years I always thought that bi men were just using me, but now I see that this isn't the case whatsoever.

Sorry to ramble. I think a lot of the latter was more for another thread, but it's my mind. :wink:

Thank you.
 

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I think that your case is quite overstated, to say the least.

You know what ? a lot of people here say "nope" and i see their sexual orientation said 100% straight..
come on.. if you are really straight, why would you open this topic in the first place ?? it just shown that you guys are curious....

i dont see why not if you have even tempted to open and comment on this post :)
100% straight ?? come on.. give me a break !
 

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You know what ? a lot of people here say "nope" and i see their sexual orientation said 100% straight..
come on.. if you are really straight, why would you open this topic in the first place ?? it just shown that you guys are curious....

i dont see why not if you have even tempted to open and comment on this post :)
100% straight ?? come on.. give me a break !
I do not let random people into my pants. :tongue: lol any people for that matter
 
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Did I miss a memo regarding {str8) as biC? Hmmmmm

I don't agree that gay men should feminize themselves so that they can be understood by straight men easier- for many guys that would be very out of character for them- and traumatic.

Again I say it's all about human interactions between like minded men, and others with opposing or skewed viewpoints and behaviors. Our society no longer seems equipped to teach basic rules of interaction, and so a guy might not be socially adept at responding to a situation that he doesn't understand or appreciate. What matters is how he responds.

Consider that m/m sex and relationships have been around since Adam and STEVE (SORRY BAD JOKE). Ok, forever. Guys used to know how to gracefully say "no thank you' towards an unwanted flirtation, or they'd clobber the guy. Both seemed socially the norm, and, well, acceptable responses. Now there is too much anger, fear, resentment, and gender confusion to allow a cool-headed level response- and the physical response can get you sued or worse.

To get back to the original post, "seduction of a straight man" ... the op had kernels of truth. He was advocating that two men bond around our base shared love of sex- and that openness and physical interactions would possibly follow. Unlikely, but possible- if using this new definition, the straight guy was really str8 and would, over time, allow his gruff exterior to be privately penetrated (bad joke again) by a properly manscaped one-eyed monster.

It all comes down to some guys wanting that kind of relationship as part of their life, or NOT. Male affirmation can come in many forms- and not all of it must be homoerotic. I'd wager a side bet, to a lesser reliable degree, that these men were never taught how to have great male relationships growing up, due to a lack of a demonstrated role model, and they are the ones who fear that friendship with an open hearted, open minded gay or bisexual might require the ultimate sacrifice on their part... naked time! (shocking) and so they literally or emotionally flee the scene.

We are who we are, and you really can't change that. If an attraction is one-sided it might be due to admiration of beauty, or character, or money, or any other number of factors out there that have been bringing couples (gay or straight) together forever. How do we handle an unwanted advance? Politely say "thanks no thanks" smile, and move on. Come on Guys, remember the dating ratio of scores to strikeouts? This still holds true.

And now a word to the apparent offender- to the guy who makes a mission to take mr straight down to BJ town by an elaborate plan of introducing beer and porn... can you think of something more constructive to do with your Saturday night? A marriage could break up over something like that- and nowadays we really need solid families to try to teach the new generation how to fix the shit our grandfathers left us. This isn't right or left- this is reparations.

I feel bad for that guy, actually, because it would seem that his axe to grind with society comes from destruction in his own life. At least a lack of some sort. If he had love in his home he wouldn't be on a mission to try to find it in a place where it wasn't being offered.

So in all the camps out there it seems like education, tolerance, and more interpersonal communication is needed - a tall order when you consider that men don't really talk to begin with- and especially not during March Madness.

Dads with young boys- I charge you to plan a men-only camping trip with your boys for late this spring- take a risk, break down the barriers, talk, and LISTEN- and train your boys to act and behave like they have a pair. Maybe the rest of us can someday catch up.
Mplsingleguy that was a thoughtful and intelligent response to this OP's rather silly topic. I think some of us are talking about str8 guys who are straight identified but are actually bi-curious. This is a minefield because how do you know who is telling the truth about their sexuality? It's safer, more ethical and more respectful not to call a guy a liar. The gay guy shouldn't try to force him to choose to have sex or not. Just be a good person. If he likes you you've made a friend, if he likes your body and he needs to "get something off his chest" he'll find a way to let you know. If not, that's HIS CHOICE! Deal with it.

Taking advantage of anyone, a woman or a man, who may be drunk, horny and unable to get you to STOP, is never a good idea and never going to lead anywhere but regrets-ville. And it might get you beaten up, sued or arrested.
 
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by straight guys in my original posts, i mean guys claiming to be 100% straight yet visit lpsg everyday, have memberships, cam with other guys and even skype with other guys (you know who you are).
 

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by straight guys in my original posts, i mean guys claiming to be 100% straight yet visit lpsg everyday, have memberships, cam with other guys and even skype with other guys (you know who you are).

As I said earlier, you are obviously targeting guys who already have some curiousity about other men. I think it's pretty clear that members who "cam with other guys and even skype with other guys" clearly have at least some curiosity in having a sexual relationship of some kind with another man. That member's indentification as "100% straight" would, then, be somewhat suspect and would be someone who you might be able to seduce.

If you believe that every man is curious, then we differ. And a guy's status as a member here or the act of visiting everyday should not, in any way, define his sexual identity. That statement assumes that LPSG is here solely for it's gay members. The assumption drives the conclusion. And I assure you...it is without merit.
 
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