Personally, like with any missing body part and scarring I find the cut ones sad. Most girls in the world have never seen a cut dick in person. Let's not take that any further.
I think I've convinced TheBF on non-circumcision
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Foreskin and glans are fused together at birth, as neither is fully developed yet. (They have to be ripped apart before an infant circumcision).
Over time the cells between them mature and break down on their own. Average age of full retraction is 10 years, so I think your son will be able to figure it out from there. Before then, just clean the outside like you would a finger. The inside is self-cleaning before puberty. Never retract, always rinse in the direction urine flows and he'll probably have no issues.
Good job on researching and nudging the BF to the idea of intact.
Thank you! I knew it wasn't going to be difficult.
One of the convincing factors is the rising popularity of keeping newborn boys intact right now. It's risen to ~45% in the US, which means that our boy won't be the only one his age who is intact during puberty and girls his age will have seen other boys who are also intact, so it won't affect him negatively when he goes through puberty, or in the locker room at school, or when he becomes sexually active.
One of the convincing factors is the rising popularity of keeping newborn boys intact right now. It's risen to ~45% in the US, which means that our boy won't be the only one his age who is intact during puberty and girls his age will have seen other boys who are also intact, so it won't affect him negatively when he goes through puberty, or in the locker room at school, or when he becomes sexually active.
Titsdude21
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I have to agree 100%, cleaning ur cock is no more difficult then ur underarm...*lift arm, wash, rinse* vs *pull back skin, wash rinse* takes me about 10-15seconds to clean. And lets be honest...u should wash it if its cut anyways.
Oh, but it is so much more fun to clean than your underarm. :biggrin1:
I'm circumcised and I wash it.
Then to make sure it is clean I wash it again
Then to make sure it is really clean, I wash it again. :wink:
For a typical 10 minute shower.
8 minutes
Cleanest part of my body :smile:
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Hi Petite :smile:
I'm circ'ed (as you've seen :wink
, and I don't think I look ugly, mutilated, etc. However, I'm also in favor of not circ'ing babies. I don't think that they (uncut penis's) either, are ugly, grotesque, etc. I just think that they should have the choice, once they are mature enough to make it, themselves.
I am friends with a gentleman here on the board, that was circ'ed as an adult. Out of respect for privacy, I'm not going to mention any other details (who, why, etc). He may see this and choose to address it himself. However, I will let you and thebf know that he told me it was not traumatic at all. The expected discomfort asociated with any surgery of course, but nothing serious. Don't know if this was a concern or not, but hopefully it helps.
And as far as cleaning, don't we all figure out the best way to clean ourselves, no matter what part of the body it is? I mean, we may get hints and help along the way from our parents, guardians, siblings, etc., but ultimately, we determined our own methods.
Now I want to address the concern of teasing. I would guess that over 95% of us were teased as a youth, for something. We see it here all the time. Little dick, big dick, uncut dick, big boobs, flat chested, glasses.....the list goes on and on. I was personally teased relentlessly for being so skinny and in gym for having a little dick (I matured late).
It's never pleasant, but it does teach us how to handle ourselves in unpleasant situations. Like you mentioned, more and more parents are opting to not circ, so it may not even be an issue. As much as we parents would like to be able to protect our children, being teased about something is more than likely going to happen. I wouldn't let this be a factor in you and thebf's decision.
Good Luck and hopefully this isn't a major sticking point. With my ex, if we would have had a boy, it probably would have been a war :frown1:
I'm circ'ed (as you've seen :wink
, and I don't think I look ugly, mutilated, etc. However, I'm also in favor of not circ'ing babies. I don't think that they (uncut penis's) either, are ugly, grotesque, etc. I just think that they should have the choice, once they are mature enough to make it, themselves.I am friends with a gentleman here on the board, that was circ'ed as an adult. Out of respect for privacy, I'm not going to mention any other details (who, why, etc). He may see this and choose to address it himself. However, I will let you and thebf know that he told me it was not traumatic at all. The expected discomfort asociated with any surgery of course, but nothing serious. Don't know if this was a concern or not, but hopefully it helps.
And as far as cleaning, don't we all figure out the best way to clean ourselves, no matter what part of the body it is? I mean, we may get hints and help along the way from our parents, guardians, siblings, etc., but ultimately, we determined our own methods.
Now I want to address the concern of teasing. I would guess that over 95% of us were teased as a youth, for something. We see it here all the time. Little dick, big dick, uncut dick, big boobs, flat chested, glasses.....the list goes on and on. I was personally teased relentlessly for being so skinny and in gym for having a little dick (I matured late).
It's never pleasant, but it does teach us how to handle ourselves in unpleasant situations. Like you mentioned, more and more parents are opting to not circ, so it may not even be an issue. As much as we parents would like to be able to protect our children, being teased about something is more than likely going to happen. I wouldn't let this be a factor in you and thebf's decision.
Good Luck and hopefully this isn't a major sticking point. With my ex, if we would have had a boy, it probably would have been a war :frown1:
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Embarrassed in gym class? You mean that sometime 10-12 years from now middle school and high school students are going to start taking showers again in gym class? It's quite out of fashion right now, probably because of homophobia.
Hi Petite :smile:
I'm circ'ed (as you've seen :wink
I am friends with a gentleman here on the board, that was circ'ed as an adult. Out of respect for privacy, I'm not going to mention any other details (who, why, etc). He may see this and choose to address it himself. However, I will let you and thebf know that he told me it was not traumatic at all. The expected discomfort asociated with any surgery of course, but nothing serious. Don't know if this was a concern or not, but hopefully it helps.
And as far as cleaning, don't we all figure out the best way to clean ourselves, no matter what part of the body it is? I mean, we may get hints and help along the way from our parents, guardians, siblings, etc., but ultimately, we determined our own methods.
Now I want to address the concern of teasing. I would guess that over 95% of us were teased as a youth, for something. We see it here all the time. Little dick, big dick, uncut dick, big boobs, flat chested, glasses.....the list goes on and on. I was personally teased relentlessly for being so skinny and in gym for having a little dick (I matured late).
It's never pleasant, but it does teach us how to handle ourselves in unpleasant situations. Like you mentioned, more and more parents are opting to not circ, so it may not even be an issue. As much as we parents would like to be able to protect our children, being teased about something is more than likely going to happen. I wouldn't let this be a factor in you and thebf's decision.
Good Luck and hopefully this isn't a major sticking point. With my ex, if we would have had a boy, it probably would have been a war :frown1:
Hi! Missed you! :biggrin1:
The fact that it wasn't traumatic to have the surgery as an adult does matter and that is something helpful to know.
Being teased really isn't the biggest part that worries, although that is such a hard part of growing up and who didn't experience it? I feel like my puberty was downright traumatic! TheBF had a much easier time of it, but if there were fewer boys getting circumcised right now, I think I would be more worried about that, especially in regards to his sexual development and how girls or boys would react. I can't imagine how it would feel if you were made to feel that your own genitals were weird, especially in a "sexual exploration" sort of situation. I've been with men who are intact, but none of them grew up in the US, so no one could tell me what it was like to go through puberty and losing one's virginity in a country where one's penis doesn't look like anyone else's and how young sexual partners reacted to it. I've never dated or met an intact American man who is close to my age. But I don't think that's going to be a problem now that so many boys being born now are intact. It's not like he's going to have the only sweater snake among boys his age, and that was something that made TheBF feel a lot better about the idea of leaving our son intact. :smile:
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I went to boarding school where they had group showers! There were a lot of other situations that involved nudity in front of other kids the same age, changing for extracurricular activities, sailing classes, weekend school camping trips that involved things like canoeing and "swamp walks" (fun, yucky, muddy, and involves showering for at least an hour afterwards to get all the mud out of your nooks and crannies). You can't expect your kids to make it all way to adulthood without some sort of "naked" experience in front of other kids.
Bizarrely enough, you can. And today it's actually the norm in the US. I can't speak for what activities you'll have your children involved in, but they may find themselves showering very much alone.
Of all my friends who have had kids graduate from high school in the past 5 years, only one of these young adults has ever seen another human being of the same sex naked (other than porn, I suppose). And that is because he went to a very, very old Catholic high school that still has open showers.
This report is almost 15 years old already, and pathological modesty has only grown worse. Kids today completely freak at the idea of anyone seeing them nude, even for a fraction of a second.
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That said, I know of no men who've regretted getting circumcised at an older age (with the exception of the pain), but two guys who stopped trying to regain their foreskin because they "realized that they preferred being circumcised."
That said, it would suck to not be content with what he has, and have to get it cut (at an age when he'd remember it).
That said, trauma wouldn't be an issue, but pain sure as hell would be. (I know of three men who had this done, and they all wished it would have been done at an age that they wouldn't remember).
That said, I'm for leaving the choice up to the kid. Just pray that he'll either be content with what God's design is, or that the pain pills with be a really good kind =P
How much this helps? Probably not at all, but the point I'm making is this...
Either method brings doubts, pros and cons. Just be content with letting him choose, as he's even less likely to be mad at you for having to get circumcised late in life (should he choose to do so) rather than be mad at you for altering his body without his consent.
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Hmm, this is different than what my friend told me
Your friend wasn't worried about it hurting?
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Not that. He said that it wasn't as painful as it seems it would be. Sure, there was pain involved, but not traumatic pain.
